Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Dave F
Please be aware this is the talk-GB forum. Use of place=farm in Britain is almost certainly misguided. If anyone knows of an appropriate location please post here. It's not use of the tag itself that's the problem, it's contributor's misinterpretation of it. DaveF On 17/01/2017 21:52, War

[Talk-GB] Become an OSM UK member before Sunday

2017-01-17 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, In order to vote at the first OSM UK General Meeting you need to be a member for at least 30 days prior to the meeting. I have drafted timings in the below thread (to be confirmed by the current Directors) and this has the deadline as this Sunday. https://www.loomio.org/d/PcOWk8n3/timing

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/01/2017 21:52, Warin wrote: In Australia .. place=farm is appropriate. The next farm may be 250 miles away, as such it usually has facilities for seasonal workers (say 20 people), machinery maintenance, air strip, ... etc. They are substantial places that are important in a mapping and s

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Warin
On 18-Jan-17 07:23 AM, Dan S wrote: 2017-01-17 19:50 GMT+00:00 Dave F >: "The Bow Quarter" appears to be an attempt to posh up the area. Gated communities scare me as the most dangerous people are usually inside the fence. DaveF Oh indeed.

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Warin
On 18-Jan-17 07:27 AM, Dave F wrote: On 17/01/2017 19:38, Warin wrote: Generally I add a node place=farm as I am not certain where the boundary lies This is a misuse of this tag. place=farm is for the rare (non existent?) cases where a residential community, such as a hamlet, has acquired

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Dave F
On 17/01/2017 19:38, Warin wrote: Generally I add a node place=farm as I am not certain where the boundary lies This is a misuse of this tag. place=farm is for the rare (non existent?) cases where a residential community, such as a hamlet, has acquired the name of an adjacent farm. "a plac

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Dan S
2017-01-17 19:50 GMT+00:00 Dave F : > > "The Bow Quarter" appears to be an attempt to posh up the area. Gated > communities scare me as the most dangerous people are usually inside the > fence. > > DaveF > Oh indeed. You should see it: some rather interesting historical architecture, but fully ga

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Sladen
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Dave F wrote: > On 17/01/2017 14:32, Derick Rethans wrote: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/77260547 > I think this is inaccurate mapping. The buildings are called 'Queen's > Park Court' The residential area should not include the grassed area or > the nursery. Residenta

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Dave F
On 17/01/2017 14:32, Derick Rethans wrote: It is what I do too: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/77260547 I think this is inaccurate mapping. The buildings are called 'Queen's Park Court' The residential area should not include the grassed area or the nursery. DaveF --- This email has be

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Dave F
For residential areas I agree. In this case place=* would be better. An area's name refers to all entities in the vicinity (schools, parks etc), not just where people live. Unfortunately landuse=residential is still misused to be all encompassing of an area or even whole towns. "The Bow Quar

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Warin
On 18-Jan-17 01:23 AM, SK53 wrote: I do use these from time to time. My usual use cases are: * Small named estates of social housing. These are common throughout Greater London and the name is usually shown on boards around the perimeter of each estate. Even for ones without such board

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Dan S wrote: > Colin, do you have your own preferred style for how to tag a named > housing estate in a city for example? I use landuse=residential for > this (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/51736709 though that one > wasn't by me) and I feel it a very appropriate style

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread SK53
I do use these from time to time. My usual use cases are: - Small named estates of social housing. These are common throughout Greater London and the name is usually shown on boards around the perimeter of each estate. Even for ones without such boards there is often good evidence for

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Dan S
Colin, do you have your own preferred style for how to tag a named housing estate in a city for example? I use landuse=residential for this (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/51736709 though that one wasn't by me) and I feel it a very appropriate style. It can easily be carved out of a larger r

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Dan S
Hi Andrew, Well, my 2p: I like to name landuse=residential when it corresponds to a delineated housing estate or whatever. I agree that as in this case they're almost always "somewhat arbitrary" (only rarely do we have access to some official polygon corresponding to a housing estate or retail are

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Colin Smale
Can't think of any justification for name on landuse. The boundary of a village may be co-linear with the built-up area, so the "place" boundary may be co-linear with the "landuse=residential", but they are not the same object and should not be conflated into a single OSM object from some (misguid

[Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Andrew Hain
A recent changeset in southwest London [https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43807789] added names to landuse=residential and landuse=commercial polygons. The mapper has not responded to the changeset comment that I left some weeks ago. The names themselves read more like descriptions to me a

[Talk-GB] Next Nottingham/East Mids pub meeting 24th Jan

2017-01-17 Thread SK53
Hi All, I've updated the wiki to add the January meeting at the Lincolnshire Poacher, for next Tuesday (a week today). I've also added provisional dates for