Re: [Talk-GB] Potential Vandalism - AGAIN

2012-08-18 Thread Graham Stewart
I am wondering who it is and why. THOU SHALT NOT REVERT confirms he/she/it knows what they are doing. Agreed. This one is called THE GENERAL SHALL NOT REVERT THEE http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12777187 Can we permanently block by IP?

Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps using Sustrans Cycling data

2012-07-23 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
Dave F. wrote In Bristol users have been tagging links to NCN 4 (signposted on the ground with the number in brackets) with the ncnref tag. This just adds confusion when displayed on the maps. We need a way to distinguish links from the actual routes. In the recent thread about the Dft

Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps using Sustrans Cycling data

2012-07-12 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
Dave F. wrote I'm not sure OSM should want it...OSM tagging system is more detailed accurate. Yeah the OSM data is more accurate and detailed, no question, but the Sustrans data is way more complete in terms of coverage. For example in my area (Newcastle/Gateshead) I've worked to get

[Talk-GB] Google Maps using Sustrans Cycling data

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
It seems Sustrans have struck a deal with Google allowing them to use Sustrans National Cycle Network routes on Google Maps: http://www.sustrans.org.uk/about-sustrans/media/news-releases/safe-cycling-routes-to-appear-on-google-for-the-first-time

Re: [Talk-GB] England Cycling Data project: DfT cycling data now available for merging

2012-06-20 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
Merging this data I see that some ways that just lead to an NCN route (but are not actually part of the continuous route) are still marked with the ncn=yes;ncn_ref=xx tags for the route the lead to. What's the feeling on this? I'm a bit torn: - On the one hand they are not the route, as in the

Re: [Talk-GB] England Cycling Data project: DfT cycling data now available for merging

2012-06-20 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
David Earl wrote I don't know about elsewhere in the country, but in Cambridgeshire the council has used the parenthesis convention on such signs That would be sensible. I think Newcastle Council must have run out of parenthesis :) David Earl wrote I think we could do well to do the

Re: [Talk-GB] England Cycling Data project: DfT cycling data now available for merging

2012-06-20 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
Thanks both Andys :) As an example of somewhere this hasn't happened look at the current mapping around St Peter's Basin in Newcastle. It shows and extra spur of the NCN72 along Bottlehouse Street, but actually the NCN72 runs along a parallel road to the north (Saint Lawrence Street).

Re: [Talk-GB] England Cycling Data project: DfT cycling data now available for merging

2012-06-18 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
smurph wrote I've just been looking through the CUBA data and I think we need to show that a route is part of a relation (specifically NCNs - which are mostly done by relation in the Bristol area) to avoid someone retagging all of the ways as NCN when they are already part of an NCN relation.

[Talk-GB] News: Ordnance Survey is moving to the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills

2011-07-19 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
Apparently the government has moved control of Ordnance Survey, Met Office and Land Registry agencies over to the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/19/public_data_corporation_bis_ordnance_survey_met_office_land_registry/ From the article: The

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK

2011-07-05 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
Fantastic news - thanks to the License Working Group for their efforts on this. I've added a new answer to the http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/5792/can-i-accept-the-new-contributor-terms-if-ive-contributed-data-from-ordnance-survey-opendata /Can I accept the new Contributor Terms if I've

Re: [Talk-GB] UK road name coverage now over 80%

2011-06-30 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
Lester Caine wrote: there is little incentive to make changes since OSM IS correct ... so the 80% is probably a little low in reality. There is still benefit in tagging these discrepancies (where OSM is correct and OS is wrong) with the not:name tag - it maintains the accuracy of this

[Talk-GB] UK road name coverage now over 80%

2011-06-29 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
I just noticed that todays http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/main ITO Analysis Summary shows we are now over 80% for road name completion (i.e. OSM road names compared to the OS Locator data). I think all UK contributors should buy themselves a pint for that. Top effort. We

[Talk-GB] ITO OSM Analysis not updating?

2011-06-21 Thread Graham Stewart
Hi Peter (et al), Last update of the http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/main is currently reporting as 16/06/2011 (today is the 21st) Has it just fallen over, or is there anything that the community can help with to get this valuable tool running again? Cheers, GrahamS

Re: [Talk-GB] Potlatch 2.2

2011-06-21 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
I've just been using the new Potlatch release and I'm sorry to report that I've seen a bit of instability too Richard. After flipping between the backgrounds a couple of times (between Bing, OS Locator and OS Street View) while working I suddenly lost the Bing background entirely and couldn't get

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-10 Thread Graham Stewart
Richard Fairhurst said: The problem with these fast-moving mailing lists is that I get halfway through a reply to Graham's e-mail, go to the pub.. My emails often have that effect :) That raises the question of why on earth we're still using cliquey semi-private email lists when we could be

[Talk-GB] OSM Analysis: highlighting missing roads over those without a name

2011-06-10 Thread Graham Stewart
Peter (et al), I think everyone agrees that the OSM Analysis Summary ( http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/main ) is extremely useful for gauging our efforts and highlighting areas that need work - even if there is clearly some disagreement about how we then use the OS data on the

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-10 Thread Graham Stewart
I'm arguing that completing the map by survey creates a community who will go on to improve and maintain the map. This is no doubt true. But surely having an area that has been *surveyed* to 100% road name completion is just as likely to put off any new contributors as one that was *traced*

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis: highlighting missing roads over those without a name

2011-06-10 Thread Graham Stewart
I am pretty sure it already does that. See Back Crossflats Place at Yep, so I'd like to see that kind of mismatch (where OS Locator says there is a street called Back Crossflats Place and OSM doesn't have any way of any name at that location) presented in a separate list or perhaps in a

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-10 Thread Graham Stewart
Great shame. So - recruit some more mappers. Write better tools to help the people who show up nearby on your user page, yet who haven't edited yet. You've got me there. Of the 30 nearby people on my user page, 20 have never made any edit. Only 3 have edited in the past 6 months and few of

Re: [Talk-GB] Forum (was OSM Analysis New Data and bot)

2011-06-10 Thread Graham Stewart
Jerry Clough said: Do you mean like this one: [1]http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=5. I was thinking more like the layout in nabble: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OpenStreetMap-f660402.html which I discovered shortly after making that comment and goes quite a way towards a

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Graham Stewart
Fyi, here is the full list of content in the source:name field for Suffolk and bits of Cambs,Norfolk and Essex (ordered by frequency of occurrence)! Well that nicely demonstrates what a complete mess the source tags are! I particularly like source:name=Mrs Sylvia Secker :) If I can put in my

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Graham Stewart
I despair that the lazy, armchair mappers are taking over, but as I say, there's little I can do to stop it. Personally I think this project needs all the help it can get. The more data sources and contributors the better. We're trying to build a map from scratch. It's not a simple task. If

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Graham Stewart
There is definite room for arguing that it will reduce active mapping in some situations. This keeps getting raised and I'm not sure how true it is. Go and look at some of the areas that are 95-100% complete according to the ITO analysis: http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/main

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Graham Stewart
If you import data into an area that doesn't already have an active community, the community will spring up more slowly or not at all. But that logic suggests that we should actively *discourage* people from doing any mapping, as an overly complete map discourages community. In reality there

[Talk-GB] Help persuade NavMii to update their UK+ROI map more often

2011-05-13 Thread Graham Stewart
For those that don't know, navmii make a car sat-nav app for the iPhone called Navfree GPS UK ROI This app is free, is built on OSM data, and is typically the #1 app in the Navigation-Free category in the App Store (ahead of skobbler which is currently #3) This is a pretty good advocate for

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Public Right Of Way map for Northumberland

2011-04-21 Thread Graham Stewart
do need to contact them I wouldn't want to just go over old ground. GrahamS On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:46 +0100, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: On 21/04/11 10:40, Graham Stewart wrote: Northumberland county council have a definitive PROW map, showing over 3000 miles of public rights

Re: [Talk-GB] tagging for average speed cameras

2011-03-04 Thread Graham Stewart
One point relating to Average Speed Cameras: Don't assume that the first camera is entry into a monitored section and the next camera exits the monitoring. This is not always the case. They can be set up as dual-exit-entry like this: Enter-A -- Exit-A-Enter-B -- Exit-B (see

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-02-07 Thread Graham Stewart
Great work on this Peter, it's a really helpful tool. One suggestion: perhaps on the Area Summary page you could add an option to rank the missing roads by their approximate length/area*, rather simply alphabetically? Targetting the largest incorrectly named roads first seems like a good way to

Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline Tidal Positions

2010-09-16 Thread Graham Stewart
No firm answer for you, but I can tell you that I've had to move stretches of coastline (around Newcastle) out to the MHW shown on the OS Streetview, as the PGS coastline had me, my GPS trace and a couple of nearby buildings bobbing about in the sea. :) On 16 Sep 2010, at 02:43, Dave F.

[Talk-GB] Grouping related buildings in a relation

2010-05-28 Thread Graham Stewart
What is the correct way to group a collection of buildings into a relation when they are all part of the same institution? I traced (from OS StreetView) the seven buildings of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Gateshead: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.93834lon=-1.57941zoom=17layers=B000FTF

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View, with code

2010-05-28 Thread Graham Stewart
Tim, In Potlatch you can also use 'r' or 'Shift-R' to repeat the tags from the last way you had selected. See [1]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts GrahamS On Fri, 28 May 2010 10:39 +, Tim François sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: ...he scares me Only