Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Ian Spencer
Tim Franois wrote on 16/03/2011 17:04: pedant

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Ian Spencer
Kevin Peat wrote on 16/03/2011 17:27: On 16 March 2011 17:00, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 mph' (with a space).

Re: [Talk-GB] Stupid tags

2010-11-18 Thread Ian Spencer
Nick Whitelegg wrote on 18/11/2010 11:20: What a stupid thing to do (and "denotation" is a stupid word to use too). Thanks, that gave me a good laugh. I think we can add denotation=cluster to the tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] New Freemap!

2010-11-11 Thread Ian Spencer
Nick Whitelegg wrote on 11/11/2010 20:40: Hi, The "OSM for walkers" site Freemap now has a new home on the Swansea University Computer Society tile server... thanks to Chris Jones for the offer of space! The site is still very basic at the moment, basically a slippy map

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Thread Ian Spencer
Brian Prangle wrote on 27/08/2010 08:02: Have we got to the stage of mapping these that it would be worth the effort in replicating a rendering similar to OpenCycleMap?. The wiki page on long distance paths seems to have a pretty comprehensive listing and you can

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Thread Ian Spencer
SomeoneElse wrote on 27/08/2010 10:58: On 27/08/2010 08:50, Ian Spencer wrote: I don't think there is anyone rendering it explicitly at the moment, however, it would be trivial for someone to take

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Thread Ian Spencer
SomeoneElse wrote on 27/08/2010 11:35: On 27/08/2010 11:22, Ian Spencer wrote: There is a relationship type route with network tag uk_ldp, and in Potlatch it already renders the long distance paths in a different way, so

Re: [Talk-GB] highway=trunk

2010-08-26 Thread Ian Spencer
Craig Wallace wrote on 25/08/2010 22:28: On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:41 +0100, "Ian Spencer" ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote: I think "already by definition cycle-legal" is the very point I am querying. The trouble with the Bicycle

[Talk-GB] highway=trunk

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Spencer
I came across a problem with Velomap, which I find is a good autorouting version of OSM for my purposes for cycling and still works fine for walking too. Velomap has made an assessment of the various tags to guess how best to route for bicycles on roads, tracks and

Re: [Talk-GB] Derbyshire area unconnected

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Spencer
Brad Rogers wrote on 25/08/2010 11:30: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:57:23 +0100 Ian Spencer ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Ian, suggested, there are no sources quoted on the ways typically, and a very high number of ways simply do not join although keepright

Re: [Talk-GB] highway=trunk

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Spencer
Jim Avery wrote on 25/08/2010 12:36: Personally I think that explicitly tagging roads which are already by definition cycle-legal as bicycle=yes would be too onerous and not entirely helpful. There are quite a few roads which are legal but lethal for cyclists. I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Ian Spencer
Richard Fairhurst wrote on 23/08/2010 12:00: Phillip Barnett wrote: Potlatch is still offering Opendata as a layer, with no warning as to the potential problem vis a vis existing contributions. Shouldn't we be dropping this rather quickly? I

Re: [Talk-GB] Derbyshire area unconnected

2010-08-21 Thread Ian Spencer
, at 23:57, Ian Spencer wrote: I was checking why a bike route from near Derby to Alton Towers was really badly out and discovered that whoever has been mapping an area around Derbyshire has been cunningly disguising

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Derbyshire area unconnected

2010-08-21 Thread Ian Spencer
Dave F. wrote on 21/08/2010 13:29: On 21/08/2010 07:42, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: Sorry not to list. - Forwarded Message From: Jerry Clough - OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - handling already-tagged fixmes

2010-07-14 Thread Ian Spencer
Tom Evans wrote on 14/07/2010 09:19: As another suggestion: Is there a special tag we can add to force it to highlight on the noname check without actually destroying the name tag? Tom Perhaps what is required is a new hierarchy, like: query so you might then have query:tag_name Not

Re: [Talk-GB] Strange Search Result in Devon or should that be Kelland Cross?

2010-07-05 Thread Ian Spencer
Jonathan Bennett wrote on 05/07/2010 23:58: On 05/07/2010 23:28, Guy Collins wrote: Another search: high street, barnstaple and yes the result includes various options but always ...Devon County, Kelland Cross You'll find the answer here:

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Mapping Priorities

2010-06-24 Thread Ian Spencer
Andy Allan wrote on 24/06/2010 12:41: I just had a look at the UK Mapping Priorities page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Priorities and I noticed that Darlington has gone from unmapped to awesome over the last few months. Who wants to step up and take credit for such immense

Re: [Talk-GB] inheriting attribution for derived OSM changes

2010-06-09 Thread Ian Spencer
Graeme Wilford wrote on 09/06/2010 11:05: All this talk about licensing and attribution caused me to question the following: If I modify existing (or add new) OSM primatives using other primatives as a guideline and the guiding primatives are attributed, my changes might be considered

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Project of the week - trace a village off of OSSV?

2010-06-08 Thread Ian Spencer
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Robert Whittaker (OSM) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: [...snip...] Maybe we should also start a campaign to ask them to dual license under ODbL+DbCL as well as CC-By... Right, there's no way we can ever discuss this licensing without

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Project of the week - trace a village off of OSSV?

2010-06-08 Thread Ian Spencer
On the contrary, OS have given explicit permission to distribute their data under CC-BY. I quote: This means that you may mix the information with Creative Commons licensed content to create a derivative work that can be distributed under any Creative Commons Attribution 3.0

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Project of the week - trace a village off of OSSV?

2010-06-08 Thread Ian Spencer
On the contrary, OS have given explicit permission to distribute their data under CC-BY. I quote: This means that you may mix the information with Creative Commons licensed content to create a derivative work that can be distributed under any Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Licence.

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Project of the week - trace a village off of OSSV?

2010-06-08 Thread Ian Spencer
...Ed Avis wrote on 08/06/2010 12:40: Ian Spencerianmspen...@... writes: This means that you may mix the information with Creative Commons licensed content to create a derivative work that can be distributed under any Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Licence. It doesn't

Re: [Talk-GB] - Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO

2010-06-02 Thread Ian Spencer
Peter Miller wrote on 02/06/2010 10:17: On 2 Jun 2010, at 09:48, Ed Loach wrote: Gregory wrote: But what if a 3rd source says something different. Should we record that too, and how? not:name=Something,Somewhat,SomePlace,... This perhaps relates to a discussion I just

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates

2010-05-28 Thread Ian Spencer
Gregory wrote on 28/05/2010 14:19: You are just thinking about cars, what about foot routing/planning(sorry I meant to make that clear in my last e-mail) If we are creating a specification for open or unlocked, we might as well include locked. Especially on foot it can be helpful to know

[Talk-GB] Private roads that are private for maintenance but are publicly accessible

2010-05-26 Thread Ian Spencer
Hi I noticed that a local road which is private is designated as access::private on OSM. My reading of that tag is that it implies users need permission to use the road. However, in common with many private roads, it is in private maintenance, but it is public access - they have never tried

Re: [Talk-GB] Private roads that are private for maintenance but are publicly accessible

2010-05-26 Thread Ian Spencer
Richard Mann wrote on 26/05/2010 13:08: access=yes is the general default, and you could probably leave it at that (ie with no access tag). access=permissive might be strictly more accurate, though I've never seen much point to that as a tag (we're a map of the here and now, not a map of

Re: [Talk-GB] Private roads that are private for maintenance but are publicly accessible

2010-05-26 Thread Ian Spencer
Gregory wrote on 26/05/2010 13:38: On 26 May 2010 12:12, Ian Spencer ianmspen...@gmail.com mailto:ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote: but it is public access - they have never tried to restrict public access, nor is the private sign anything other than a statement that the road

Re: [Talk-GB] Private roads that are private for maintenance but are publicly accessible

2010-05-26 Thread Ian Spencer
Jerry Clough - OSM wrote on 26/05/2010 16:21: An interesting set of points. I've been puzzling over three particular cases related to this. In each case I'm aware that the tagging is incomplete: 1. The Park Estate http://osm.org/go/eu8Y9GnT in Nottingham. This is emphatically a private

Re: [Talk-GB] Private roads that are private for maintenance but are publicly accessible

2010-05-26 Thread Ian Spencer
Jerry Clough - OSM wrote on 26/05/2010 18:24: The current issue with the Park Estate is about pedestrian access. The position with cars has always been clearly stated. Recently Nottingham City Council has started the process of designating public rights of way (the former County Boroughs

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-05-24 Thread Ian Spencer
Ed Avis wrote on 24/05/2010 15:05: It appears the choice for buildings is a fight between OS maps, which are likely derived from high-resolution aerial photos but have been simplified, and the somewhat lower-resolution photo images available to OSM. It is not really possible to survey

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Ian Spencer
I think it would be useful to have a think about how we might tag validated definitive ways in addition to the public footpath recognising that there are potentially 3 different versions of a path: 1) The official published rights of way - say from OS. 2) OSM interpretation of rights of way

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-12 Thread Ian Spencer
James Davis wrote on 12/05/2010 10:05: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: My local library has the definitive statements in the one book, with subsequent versions over the ages added into the binding. So as you say its easy to compare what the statement says 50+ years ago and the

[Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Ian Spencer
(Newbie alert!!) I suspect this has been discussed before, but it seems to me that there is a big hole in open source mapping, and that is getting hold of definitive maps in electronic form to be able to document them. I presume that the definitive map is a public document that should be

[Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Ian Spencer
(Newbie alert!! - another try without the HTML setting) I suspect this has been discussed before, but it seems to me that there is a big hole in open source mapping, and that is getting hold of definitive maps in electronic form to be able to document them. I presume that the definitive map is

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Ian Spencer
scrutiny of definitive ways is essential under the current legislation. I'll pop a question to the Ramblers and see where they have got to. Ian Tom Hughes wrote on 11/05/2010 11:29: On 11/05/10 11:22, Ian Spencer wrote: I presume that the definitive map is a public document that should