Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

>Hi Rob et al., > >I've created a quick umap instance > >showing school points within a school polygon. > >If anyone can tell me how to remove the bit of html which makes the url to >the polygon not work, do let me

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

On 7 January 2016 at 11:35, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > we need a corresponding key name for > Scottish schools. These are (mostly) not listed in Edubase and the > Scottish Government have their own list and ID numbers for their > schools. I've used the

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

On 13/01/16 11:24, Ed Loach wrote: > Is there an easy way to find a wikidata reference (if there is one) if you > have the DfE URN (the ref:edubase value)? > I've not been adding wikidata tags so far as I don't know how to find the > value without a lot of searching. > And if there is an easy

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

One of them had lost an eye? On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 at 13:18 Lester Caine wrote: > On 13/01/16 11:24, Ed Loach wrote: > > Is there an easy way to find a wikidata reference (if there is one) if > you have the DfE URN (the ref:edubase value)? > > I've not been adding wikidata

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

On 7 January 2016 at 20:48, Brian Prangle wrote: > Also I'm finding that frequently I'm adding names to pre-existing school > polygons. Could Rob's progress tool also count schools with names? I've just set up another report:

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

I wouldn’t like to say that it is definitive, because I haven't added playgrounds, parking or recreation facilities, but try http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/36439931 or http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/49655265#map=18/51.55355/0.69659 both of which relate to Southend High School for

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FYI (although you've probably already noticed) The database was updated yesterday. Dave F. On 08/01/2016 09:33, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On 7 January 2016 at 20:48, Brian Prangle wrote: Also I'm finding that frequently I'm adding names to pre-existing school

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I see the diagram and suggested process on the Wiki page but do we have an actual mapped example that could be used to further illustrate this. A link to a changeset containing this, or whatever's appropriate, would be useful. If you've mapped one, now's the chance for a bit of glory in setting

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My vote would go to a format of ref:. Looking at the wiki for ref, a great many of the “” there are not things that can be ascertained from a ground survey, but are internal IDs or reference numbers. What I am proposing is therefore consistent with the wiki. I’m not at all hung up on what

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

Many many thanks to Robert for coming up with this tool so quickly: it's matching might be a bit rough but it's a great help in finding what needs mapping where regards Brian On 3 January 2016 at 18:43, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 January 2016

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

On 06/01/2016 14:06, SK53 wrote: For Food Hygiene (FHRS) data the equivalent internal identifier has converged on fhrs:id, but this was is in part because a number of other items of data from the Food Hygiene scheme have also been added within OSM. So I dont think this establishes any

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Brilliant, thanks. As per Rob's email of yesterday, should we also add ref:seedcode for Scotland? Cheers Stuart > On 7 Jan 2016, at 23:01, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> On 7 January 2016 at 20:48, Brian Prangle wrote: >> >> If no-one objects to

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

If no-one objects to ref:edubase can someone add it to the wiki? We should probably also add some other stuff that's come up just in case there are folk who are not on this mailing list who want to discover what the consensus is in the UK for mapping schools. Also I'm finding that frequently

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Not my tool - I just have a version of it running. Adam has provided me an updated version that I need to look at this weekend. I can see if I can add such a percentage tracker at the same time. For now you'll just have to keep looking at the taginfo page:

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On the ref=*. Is there any convention for indicating that the ref is Edubase? I've tagged Brighton Montessori with ref=133348 ...but how would an interested party know that they would be able to find more details on Edubase http://www.education.gov.uk/edubase/establishment/summary.xhtml?urn=133348

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Purely a personal preference, but I like to keep ref for thing which (generally) can be determined on a ground survey. I also like to keep separate genuine administrative references (such as the PRoW ones prow_ref, or minor roads admin_ref) separate from exposed system keys such as the edubase

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Hi John, I don’t know if how I do it is “right”, but I have used access=destination, and foot=no where I have those types of things. I haven’t ever used amenity=parking_entrance, although that doesn’t mean I’m right as I’m still a relative newbie at this compared to many. Actually, I use

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

I’m thinking that while we are reviewing the schools, it would be a good idea to add the Edubase reference into a Ref tag for each school boundary polygon, to make it easier to track in future. Is that reference stable enough? If we think that it is a good idea, perhaps we could make it part of

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

Hi all, Some great ideas and tools already shared and only January 3rd! This made me think I should set up a wiki page but I have been beaten to it. I've expanded on the page to add links to all the resources being discussed here. Page at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Projects

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Hi BZ I put all other data relating to the whole school (name, address, website etc) on the boundary way. Many organisations such as schools, universities & hospitals etc have distinctive departments. These can be identified by adding names to each building. Dave F. On 03/01/2016 13:40,

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

Generally I will place the name tag on the school grounds and not on the buildings. This allows individual buildings to be given names, if they have them: e.g., Science Block, Nursery. A couple of complications: - Campus sites: several schools share facilities, particularly playing fields.

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On 02/01/16 15:24, Dave F. wrote: > On 02/01/2016 12:51, Brian Prangle wrote: >> That gives a total of 32,318 schools. Taginfo shows 27,191 schools >> which is 84.1% coverage in OSM. However 6,348 are represented as >> nodes only. It would be great to have these as polygons and >> associated

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Thanks. That makes sense and avoids the name duplication. On 03/01/16 14:31, SK53 wrote: > Generally I will place the name tag on the school grounds and not on > the buildings. This allows individual buildings to be given names, if > they have them: e.g., Science Block, Nursery. > > A couple of

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

On 2 January 2016 at 12:51, Brian Prangle wrote: > Happy New Year! (and Happy New Mapping Year!) The first Quarterly Project > for 2016 is now under way and is Schools. There are really two strands to > this project. > > The first is to remotely (armchai)r map and get an

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Great idea Robert! Any idea why it is not matching Gravesend Grammar School (at DA12 2PR) which is in OSM with amenity=school on way http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/142625579 ? I have noticed several other schools in Gravesend and surroundings which as far as I can see are in OSM and not being

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

On 3 January 2016 at 19:04, Colin Smale wrote: > Any idea why it is not matching Gravesend Grammar School (at DA12 2PR) which > is in OSM with amenity=school on way > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/142625579 ? I have noticed several other > schools in Gravesend and

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

>I've imported a current GB extract with osm2pgsql I find: > > > >Bye >Frederik > Good analysis there Frederik. Are you able to share the outputs so that others can use it to help the mapping efforts? A slippy map or maproulette task would be good but maybe just the raw data to get us started if

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

Aah, I see... I didn't expect to find it there! St Josephs is in OSM, but as a node [1], which are not included as yet. I think some kind of matching on the name is probably going to be important. Many schools are also tagged with address data, so addr:postcode may also be a good matching key -

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

Hi Rob et al., I've created a quick umap instance showing school points within a school polygon. If anyone can tell me how to remove the bit of html which makes the url to the polygon not work, do let me know.

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Hi, On 01/03/2016 06:45 PM, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Good analysis there Frederik. Are you able to share the outputs so that > others can use it to help the mapping efforts? A slippy map or > maproulette task would be good but maybe just the raw data to get us > started if your busy. I'm afraid I

[Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

Happy New Year! (and Happy New Mapping Year!) The first Quarterly Project for 2016 is now under way and is Schools. There are really two strands to this project. The first is to remotely (armchai)r map and get an increase in coverage of the number of schools The latest government data is for

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

Hi, There is also a mapzen map that helps identify schools marked only by a node. The map is a bit clunky so someone may be able to come up with something better using umap. As Brian noted, we have over 6000 schools tagged just with a node. https://mapzen.com/blog/targeted-editing-school-polygons

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

On 02/01/2016 12:51, Brian Prangle wrote: That gives a total of 32,318 schools. Taginfo shows 27,191 schools which is 84.1% coverage in OSM. However 6,348 are represented as nodes only. It would be great to have these as polygons and associated buildings. It would also be great to have close

Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

On 02/01/16 12:51, Brian Prangle wrote: That gives a total of 32,318 schools. Taginfo shows 27,191 schools which is 84.1% coverage in OSM. One possible reason for the shortfall would be where an infants and junior school, or a middle and upper school share a site. When armchair mapping, it

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Hi, At a time of great policy change like this, it would be hard to get every single school in the UK mapped, but I could try for my local area. Usually, new schools open in September and old ones close in July, which might help. Antje https://openstreetmap.org/user/Amaroussi > On 2 Jan

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Surely that is where the benefit of a community really helps. With government data keeping up to date then we should be able to track the changes quite easily, georeference the address in order to calculate the rough location and then ask our local mappers to help with on the ground surveys. A