Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Dan S
an unusual case > >>>> in that there are no rights of way (except, to guarantee access I > >>>> suspect, crossings over railways) but all paths are implicitly > >>>> open to the public. However there is no explicit 'This is a > >>>> permissiv

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Michael Collinson
From: Nick Whitelegg Sent: 11 July 2020 10:11 To: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common I would probably add to the definition of permissive, paths in the countryside, or on common-land or similar edge-of-town areas with public access, which are not rights of way but which n

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Philip Barnes
ays) but all paths are implicitly > > > open to the public. However there is no explicit 'This is a > > > permissive path' notice. > > > > > > Certain paths are closed from time to time, usually due to > > > forestry operations. > > > > > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Nick
: 11 July 2020 06:20 To: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common It seems a bit odd for Osmose to be flagging highway=footway, foot=yes as an error just because foot access is implied by default. Whilst there might be the tiniest bit of redundancy I can't see any particular

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Dan S
ce. > > Certain paths are closed from time to time, usually due to forestry > operations. > > Nick > > > > From: Nick Whitelegg > Sent: 11 July 2020 10:11 > To: Talk GB > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
there is no explicit 'This is a permissive path' notice. Certain paths are closed from time to time, usually due to forestry operations. Nick From: Nick Whitelegg Sent: 11 July 2020 10:11 To: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common I would probably add

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
To: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common It seems a bit odd for Osmose to be flagging highway=footway, foot=yes as an error just because foot access is implied by default. Whilst there might be the tiniest bit of redundancy I can't see any particular reason to remove it and, indeed

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Adam Snape
It seems a bit odd for Osmose to be flagging highway=footway, foot=yes as an error just because foot access is implied by default. Whilst there might be the tiniest bit of redundancy I can't see any particular reason to remove it and, indeed, there might be an argument that an explicit tag is

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Hi, I'm the changeset commenter, I added the foot=yes on the common based on it being a registered common with definite legal access. I also add foot=yes to signed public footpaths. I would only add foot=designated where there is a blue person sign or similar (not a green/wooden public footpath

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Mike Baggaley
>I have been doing some tidying based on Osmose, including the warning for >highway=footway foot=yes, which is often left over >from a preset in Potlatch >1. > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87672607 > >I got a changeset comment querying the edit. Hi Andrew, My understanding is that

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, It's worth pointing out that if Wimbledon Common is (as I assume) registered as common land then there would normally be a legal right of access on foot under the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000, so foot=yes would be correct. Kind regards, Adam

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2020-07-10 at 11:54 +, Andrew Hain wrote: > I have been doing some tidying based on Osmose, including the warning > for highway=footway foot=yes, which is often left over from a preset > in Potlatch 1. > > > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87672607 > > > > > > I

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Jul 10, 2020, 14:49 by ajt1...@gmail.com: > On 10/07/2020 12:54, Andrew Hain wrote: > >> I have been doing some tidying based on Osmose, including the warning for >> highway=footway foot=yes, which is often left over from a preset in Potlatch >> 1. >> >>

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 10/07/2020 13:35, David Woolley wrote: > On 10/07/2020 13:11, Colin Smale wrote: >> What does "legally accessible" mean? Are they Public Footpaths? Do we >> tag all Public Footpaths with an explicit "foot=yes" or is >> "designation=public_footpath" enough? >> > > I don't know the situation in

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Andy Townsend
(apologies for the double reply) I just remembered I wrote a diary entry last year about this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/diary/391053 . That has some useful links in such as a pointer to the start of "designation" tagging, in 2009:

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/07/2020 12:54, Andrew Hain wrote: I have been doing some tidying based on Osmose, including the warning for highway=footway foot=yes, which is often left over from a preset in Potlatch 1. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87672607 If Osmose is flagging "highway=footway;foot=yes"

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread David Woolley
On 10/07/2020 13:11, Colin Smale wrote: What does "legally accessible" mean? Are they Public Footpaths? Do we tag all Public Footpaths with an explicit "foot=yes" or is "designation=public_footpath" enough? I don't know the situation in Wimbledon Common, but most footpaths in public park

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Silent Spike
The changeset comment seems backwards to me, foot=designated is more specific than foot=yes (which would be the default for any mapped footpath). On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:12 PM Colin Smale wrote: > What does "legally accessible" mean? Are they Public Footpaths? Do we tag > all Public Footpaths

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Colin Smale
What does "legally accessible" mean? Are they Public Footpaths? Do we tag all Public Footpaths with an explicit "foot=yes" or is "designation=public_footpath" enough? On 2020-07-10 13:54, Andrew Hain wrote: > I have been doing some tidying based on Osmose, including the warning for >

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Dan S
I have always believed that highway=footway in the UK implies foot=yes (and not foot=designated), though I actually don't know if UK tagging practice is successfully documented. IMHO the use of "designated" is quite specific and probably shouldn't be assumed as an invisible default. Best Dan Op

[Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Andrew Hain
I have been doing some tidying based on Osmose, including the warning for highway=footway foot=yes, which is often left over from a preset in Potlatch 1. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87672607 I got a changeset comment querying the edit. * I note you have removed foot=yes