Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2019-01-25 Thread Mark Goodge
On 25/01/2019 17:30, Jack FitzSimons via Talk-GB wrote: I've noticed that many bank branches have a unique postcode while the shops either side of them all share a single postcode. When the bank branch closes (as so many do these days) the unique postcode finds its way on to Robert's old po

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2019-01-25 Thread Gregrs
Hi Jack, On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 05:30:41PM +, Jack FitzSimons via Talk-GB wrote: What if one of those sources (say FHRS) shows the correct postcode but more obvious sources (e.g. the company website) shows an old postcode? I can use the correct postcode but it is likely to be changed back

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2019-01-25 Thread fitzsimons via Talk-GB
The post wasn't intended to be anonymous. Apologies Jack -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Great-Britain-f5372682.html ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread ndrw6
On 09/11/2018 19:49, Chris Hill wrote: I maintain a GB postcode overlay, based on the Codepoint Open datasets. This was last updated using the August 2018 data. I expect another update shortly. You can see postcodes on a map I provide or use the overlay tiles in your favourite editor. More deta

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Chris Hill
On 09/11/2018 09:38, Tom Hughes wrote: On 09/11/2018 09:09, Phoenix830 wrote: I want to add postcodes but I am aware of issues with this being copyrighted material. I maintain a GB postcode overlay, based on the Codepoint Open datasets. This was last updated using the August 2018 data. I e

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread David Woolley
On 09/11/18 16:27, Will Phillips wrote: Sources such as Companies House don't validate their addresses, so this total will certainly include some proportion that are incorrect. Most sources that do validate ask the user for the postcode an then to select the address from the valid ones on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On 9 November 2018 17:51:40 GMT, "Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)" wrote: >On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 17:08, Adam Snape wrote: >> My conclusion from this is that we can safely map postcodes to the >building where their centroids are placed, perhaps avoiding doing so >(or adding FIXMEs) on brand new de

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 17:08, Adam Snape wrote: > My conclusion from this is that we can safely map postcodes to the building > where their centroids are placed, perhaps avoiding doing so (or adding > FIXMEs) on brand new developments. There is one gotcha to that, which is that PO box addresses,

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Adam Snape
Hi To clarify the question I was asking earlier, this is what the OS say: "Code-Point Open is created by taking the average of the coordinates of all the individual addresses in a postcode (provided we have any of sufficient quality), then snapping to the nearest of those addresses. Code-Point Op

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Will Phillips
On 09/11/2018 14:44, SK53 wrote: The available sets of open data which can be used to resolve postcodes are: Food Hygiene (the best, easiest to resolve, coverage of the whole UK - even Rutland); Companies House Open Data (surprisingly useful even in areas of social housing); the National Regist

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread SK53
I'm pretty sure that the "centroid" is allocated to the nearest delivery point in the postcode which places it over a building. See my (now rather) old blog post from 2013, and the note by Jenni Tennison. A caveat is, of

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, I'm not on about extrapolating postcodes for other buildings on a street, but we should be able to map the postcode of building on which the centroid is placed, shouldn't we? Zooming in should allow us to see which building a centroid is on. Kind regards, Adam On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 13:44, P

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, I ask because the 'centroids' do not appear to be centroids in a pure mathematical sense, they always appear to be placed on a building, never in open space. Now, if this were merely been done by attributing the centroid to the nearest building regardless of whether it actually belongs to the

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 13:26 +, David Woolley wrote: > If centroid has the plain (mathematical) meaning of the word, it > will > only fall exactly on the building centre if there is only one > building > in the postcode area. > > In practice the building nearest the centroid might have its ow

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread David Woolley
If centroid has the plain (mathematical) meaning of the word, it will only fall exactly on the building centre if there is only one building in the postcode area. In practice the building nearest the centroid might have its own postcode, so you can't rely on the nearest building to the centroi

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, I agree with not mapping the centroids but... Is it the case that the centroids are always placed on a building which falls under that postcode? If so, wouldn't it be okay to tag the building with the appropriate postcode? Another idea: Given that postcodes (with few exceptrions) apply to on

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Tom Hughes
On 09/11/2018 11:44, David Woolley wrote: On 09/11/18 11:34, David Woolley wrote: if you are only dealing with centroids, I think many have been mapped already, indicates that at least 2500 have been mapped. Yes, but it's a s

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Dan S
Op vr 9 nov. 2018 om 10:41 schreef Paul Berry : > > Would the etiquette here be to tag the objects with source=local knowledge if > you happen to know the postcode without looking it up (or it's on signage, > etc)? Hi - two slightly different things in your question there - the convention is, as

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread David Woolley
On 09/11/18 11:34, David Woolley wrote: if you are only dealing with centroids, I think many have been mapped already, indicates that at least 2500 have been mapped. ___ Talk-GB mail

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread David Woolley
On 09/11/18 09:09, Phoenix830 wrote: They have confirmed that this data is released under the Open Government Licence http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/ . There is a gotcha in the OGL regarding restricted upstream sources, so OGL is probably not enoug

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Paul Berry
Would the etiquette here be to tag the objects with *source=local knowledge* if you happen to know the postcode without looking it up (or it's on signage, etc)? Regards, *Paul* On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 09:38, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 09/11/2018 09:09, Phoenix830 wrote: > > > I want to add postcodes

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Tom Hughes
On 09/11/2018 09:09, Phoenix830 wrote: I want to add postcodes but I am aware of issues with this being copyrighted material. Add them to what exactly? I have come across https://postcodes.io which states it is from open sources. I have contacted them here https://ideal-postcodes-support.he

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2016-12-06 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 5 December 2016 at 20:19, Dave Barter wrote: > Excuse the noob question as I’ve not been on the list long. > > I’m doing a bit of work trying to create an open version of the OS Codepoint > Polygons. To do this I need as much postcode data as possible. I’ve been > looking at extracting this f

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2016-12-05 Thread David Woolley
On 05/12/16 20:19, Dave Barter wrote: -addr:postal_code -addr:postcode -postal_code -postcode Used correctly, postal_code won't tell you much, as it is only basically the outbound part as used to qualify the names of streets and pillar boxes. It should never contain a full code. __

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2016-12-05 Thread SK53
You may also not be aware of Geolytix set of postcode areas/districts & sectors which is built from the ONS data and other OS OpenData sets: https://www.geolytix.co.uk/ look in Geodata menu. You also have to process the centroids to remove very noisy data (RM Delivery centres, some local govt offi

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2016-12-05 Thread Chris Hill
On 05/12/16 20:19, Dave Barter wrote: Excuse the noob question as I’ve not been on the list long. I’m doing a bit of work trying to create an open version of the OS Codepoint Polygons. To do this I need as much postcode data as possible. I’ve been looking at extracting this from OSM and as far

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2014-06-11 Thread Lester Caine
On 10/06/14 08:47, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Personally I’d say it’s better to place the postcode on the buildings, as > they are delivery points, that the postcode relates to, whereas adding them > to the street is both more complex, error prone and not tagging what the > postcode actually relate

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2014-06-11 Thread Shaun McDonald
Personally I’d say it’s better to place the postcode on the buildings, as they are delivery points, that the postcode relates to, whereas adding them to the street is both more complex, error prone and not tagging what the postcode actually relates to (i.e. the collection of delivery points). S

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2011-03-18 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 18/03/2011 22:56, Kev js1982 wrote: Resurrecting an old thread I know but with the NSPD Open data also being available allowing Northern Ireland to be generated and having access to an otherwise idle 64bit server I've taken the opportunity to revisit this, and have successfully created the s

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2011-03-18 Thread Kev js1982
Resurrecting an old thread I know but with the NSPD Open data also being available allowing Northern Ireland to be generated and having access to an otherwise idle 64bit server I've taken the opportunity to revisit this, and have successfully created the shapefiles (it only took the server 12 days

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 26 April 2010 15:13, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: > GRASS seems to have some kind of Voronoi algorithm, but I find its > interface very non-intuitive, so have not found it to try it out. This may > be worth pursuing as an alternative route. > > As an aside: I notice that virtually all postcode bo

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
: OSM - Talk GB Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 12:24:26 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kev js1982 wrote: >I am currently trying to create a series of shapefiles from postcodes (using >OS Open Geo Data) using the code from "Rand

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Kev js1982 wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kev js1982 wrote: >> >> I am currently trying to create a series of shapefiles from postcodes >> (using OS Open Geo Data) using the code from "Random Junk" >> (http://random.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodes/#) r

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Kev js1982
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kev js1982 wrote: > I am currently trying to create a series of shapefiles from postcodes > (using OS Open Geo Data) using the code from "Random Junk" ( > http://random.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodes/#) running on Ubuntu 9.10 > but I can't get it working. > > lo

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Chris Hill
Kev js1982 wrote: > I am currently trying to create a series of shapefiles from postcodes > (using OS Open Geo Data) using the code from "Random Junk" > (http://random.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodes/#) running on Ubuntu > 9.10 but I can't get it working. > > What I have done so far is to create

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-09-14 Thread Jack Stringer
Is it possible to do another map with all the partials on it. That way we can check them for errors as well. Don't worry if it takes too much effort. Jack On Sep 14, 2009 4:59 PM, "Dave Stubbs" wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Dan Karran wrote: > 2009/9/14 Dave Stubbs __

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-09-14 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Dan Karran wrote: > 2009/9/14 Dave Stubbs : > >> OK, back up and running now. > > Thanks for getting that up and running again Dave. > > Would it be possible for you to include labels for the postal sectors > on there as well, so that we can see which sector the po

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-09-14 Thread Dan Karran
2009/9/14 Dave Stubbs : > OK, back up and running now. Thanks for getting that up and running again Dave. Would it be possible for you to include labels for the postal sectors on there as well, so that we can see which sector the polygons refer to? The Isle of Man is looking much better now tha

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-09-14 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Tom Chance wrote: > > Hi, > > I set about correcting a few dozen post code entries in NPE for south east > London, but the postcodes map doesn't seem to be updating: > > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/?zoom=13&lat=51.48557&lon=-0.07888&layers=B00T0

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records?

2009-09-07 Thread David Earl
On 07/09/2009 14:39, Gregory Williams wrote: > It's a .uk TLD, so I'll play safe and not derive from that then. I managed to > miss that legal blurb at the end of the response. In general, any substantial collection of data in the EU is covered by Database Copyright, and it is automatic - there

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records?

2009-09-07 Thread Gregory Williams
mes Davis > Sent: 7 September 2009 13:37 > To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records? > > Gregory Williams wrote: > > I just happen to have looked up a whois record for a domain and it > > helpfully has the registrant’s physical address a

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records?

2009-09-07 Thread James Davis
Gregory Williams wrote: > I just happen to have looked up a whois record for a domain and it > helpfully has the registrant’s physical address and postcode. OSM is > always ticking away in the back of my mind, so I thought: I can > physically get to that address quite easily for mapping purposes, s

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave Stubbs wrote: >Sent: 20 August 2009 5:42 PM >To: Andy Street >Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund? > >On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Andy Street wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 13:27 +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: >>>

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-20 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Andy Street wrote: > On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 13:27 +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Ciarán >> Mooney wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Seen this map before, very cool. Do you use the postcode=* or >> > add:postcode=* to pull out the areas? >> > >>

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-20 Thread Andy Street
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 13:27 +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Ciarán > Mooney wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Seen this map before, very cool. Do you use the postcode=* or > > add:postcode=* to pull out the areas? > > > > postal_code and addr:postcode taken from either nodes or w

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:53:52 +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: > Currently got an issue compiling mapnik on my dev box that generates > them.. some conflict with latest ubuntu... probably easy to fix just > haven't got round to it. > I do /plan/ to fix it... I just don't know when it'll happen :-) Aha, t

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-17 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Ciarán Mooney wrote: > Hi, > > Seen this map before, very cool. Do you use the postcode=* or > add:postcode=* to pull out the areas? > postal_code and addr:postcode taken from either nodes or ways -- they all get turned into points then it creates a giant voronoi d

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-17 Thread Ciarán Mooney
Hi, Seen this map before, very cool. Do you use the postcode=* or add:postcode=* to pull out the areas? Ciarán ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-17 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Tom Chance wrote: > > Hi, > > I set about correcting a few dozen post code entries in NPE for south east > London, but the postcodes map doesn't seem to be updating: > > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/?zoom=13&lat=51.48557&lon=-0.07888&layers=B00T0F