Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

I wanted to make some little improvements to your map display (more readable tags) http://bl.ocks.org/harry-wood/raw/1c590b852dd2f43569c085dc554b9abd/ I'm not that familiar with 'gists'. They don't have 'pull requests' hey? Anyway my fork is

[Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

>On 03/11/2017 20:42, Rob Nickerson wrote: >> ... There is no way I see us OSM craft mappers visiting all of the >> rest within sensible time-frames. ... > >Ah, silly me. If only I (and everyone else here) had read that around >10 years ago, then we needn't have bothered mapping all that stuff in

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 20:42, Rob Nickerson wrote: ... There is no way I see us OSM craft mappers visiting all of the rest within sensible time-frames. ... Ah, silly me.  If only I (and everyone else here) had read that around 10 years ago, then we needn't have bothered mapping all that stuff in OSM,

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

There is another dataset you can use, the food hygiene ratings [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Food_Hygiene_Rating_System] at http://ratings.food.gov.uk that has postcodes for shops selling food, which includes many petrol stations. It includes Northern Ireland but not the Isle of Man

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On Fri, 2017-11-03 at 20:42 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi all, > > My thanks to Andy for finding that this data is not perfect. My > thanks also to Phil for finding that the existing OSM data for Shell > Porthmadog is, to use Phil's words from a later email, broken. It was more the opening

[Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

Hi all, My thanks to Andy for finding that this data is not perfect. My thanks also to Phil for finding that the existing OSM data for Shell Porthmadog is, to use Phil's words from a later email, broken. Now that we have ascertained that neither data set is perfect, can we please discuss whether

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On Fri, 2017-11-03 at 11:09 -0700, Paul Norman wrote: > On 11/3/2017 10:51 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote: > > Philip, the shell.co.uk website gives the same opening hours for > > the Branting Hill station as the source dataset. Basically, > > everything in the dataset is the same, except for locations,

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 18:45, David Woolley wrote: On 03/11/17 17:51, Ilya Zverev wrote: postcodes, should they be removed from the import? Is there a database that I can check these against? There is a database, but one of OSM UK's big bug bears is that it is not licensed in a way that allows it to

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/17 17:51, Ilya Zverev wrote: postcodes, should they be removed from the import? Is there a database that I can check these against? There is a database, but one of OSM UK's big bug bears is that it is not licensed in a way that allows it to be used for OSM. About the limit of what

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 11/3/2017 10:51 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote: Philip, the shell.co.uk website gives the same opening hours for the Branting Hill station as the source dataset. Basically, everything in the dataset is the same, except for locations, which have been improved by the Navads team. What percentage of

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

First, thanks everyone for checking the import. I've made some improvements regarding addresses, and I removed the "operator" tag. You can see the improvements on the same map. I'd like to join Richard in a search for a review tool, which would allow people from UK to participate. Seeing that

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/17 11:20, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Ashton-under-Hill (postcode WR11 7QP, near Lester ;) ) is weird too - the > addr:street is proposed to be changed to 'A46', which isn't a street name, > it's a ref. Actually Spar list it as Vale Service Station , A46 Ashton Under Hill but it is really

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/17 15:35, Philip Barnes wrote: I would dispute that the operator is most locations is Shell and that the brand should be Shell, but they are independent businesses who have a franchise to sell Shell fuel, but Shell do not employ the cashier, the mechanics or supply what is sold in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

Looking at some of the Shell stations locally I would dispute that the operator is most locations is Shell and that the brand should be Shell, but they are independent businesses who have a franchise to sell Shell fuel, but Shell do not employ the cashier, the mechanics or supply what is sold in

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 14:24, Steve Doerr wrote: The postcode (S44 5HB) is certainly wrong. Probably should be S44 5HS. Euro Garages (operator of the Shell garage we're talking about) is certainly listed at that postcode, which is Markham Lane, as you say. (So are 59 other locations.) Strangely, KFC

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

Hi, On 03.11.2017 11:59, Ilya Zverev wrote: > I see many imports every day going unnoticed, and I see this kind of a harsh > reaction on proposed imports. It is easy to see why people are reluctant to > announce their imports and automated edits beforehand. Any import that goes unnoticed for

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 10:59, Ilya Zverev wrote: 3 нояб. 2017 г., в 13:21, Andy Townsend написал(а): Last time you proposed this it took only a few seconds to identify problems with the data. It's the same this time - at least some of the changes that your map suggests you're

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Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 01:59:17PM +0300, Ilya Zverev wrote: > 3 нояб. 2017 г., в 13:21, Andy Townsend написал(а): > > > > On 03/11/2017 09:55, Ilya Zverev wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> You might remember a few months ago I discussed here importing of Shell > >> fuel stations.

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 10:59, Ilya Zverev wrote: How is the address info there incorrect? Did you see the correct address of the building? Googling shows that amenities there are indeed addressed by Markham Lane, just like the Markham Vale, the business centre that contains these. I explained the

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On Fri, 2017-11-03 at 12:55 +0300, Ilya Zverev wrote: > Hi, > > You might remember a few months ago I discussed here importing of > Shell fuel stations. The data provider is Navads, which has a > contract with Shell for putting their stations on the map. They asked > me to proceed with the import

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/17 10:59, Ilya Zverev wrote: I have received the list from the Shell UK. Are you suggesting I should buy a ticket and verify each of these on the ground? Are there any better sources for Shell fuel stations, or are you implying the UK is a special restricted no-imports-whatsoever

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

Ilya Zverev wrote: > Please help me review the data. Here is the updated map: > http://bl.ocks.org/Zverik/raw/ddcfaf2da25a3dfda00a3d93a62f218d/ Eek, this still looks a bit sketchy. Choosing one of the two nearest affected petrol stations to me, the one on Woodstock Road, Yarnton looks like it

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

Thanks Ed, I have removed overriding streets and postal codes, so at least existing correct addresses won't be changed. I've updated the map. If a majority of addresses in the import are wrong, then I would consider removing these tags even from the hundred of new objects. Ilya > 3 нояб. 2017

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

3 нояб. 2017 г., в 13:21, Andy Townsend написал(а): > > On 03/11/2017 09:55, Ilya Zverev wrote: >> Hi, >> >> You might remember a few months ago I discussed here importing of Shell fuel >> stations. The data provider is Navads, which has a contract with Shell for >> putting

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

I've checked the only one near me, in Clacton, and the address details in OpenStreetMap are correct and the proposed address changes are wrong. Ed > -Original Message- > From: Ilya Zverev [mailto:i...@zverev.info] > Sent: 03 November 2017 09:56 > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Subject:

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 09:55, Ilya Zverev wrote: Hi, You might remember a few months ago I discussed here importing of Shell fuel stations. The data provider is Navads, which has a contract with Shell for putting their stations on the map. They asked me to proceed with the import and sent an updated