Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Mottram and Tintwistle proposed bypass

2008-03-31 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that Robert. A few other questions: 1) How does one tag something that is being considered seriously (such as the Mottram Tintwistle bypass), but which may well never get built? I think I will just put the

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Potlatch 0.8

2008-03-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: To add a way/whatever to a relation, use the new link icon on the right, then select a nearby relation from the menu (or Create a new relation). Thanks for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
* Rendering engines could handle it much easier if it were just a cycleway=* tag added to the road. Please show me the simple rendering algorithm for mapnik and osmarender you have envisioned to make this working for all the special cases above. Until you do, I keep believing the

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 March 2008, Dave Stubbs wrote: ---- cycleway ---- road ---- road ---- cycleway I count 8 ways? Unless you are splitting all the ways at absolutely every intersection

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering power lines: black is beauty

2008-03-20 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob wrote: the logical solution would be to use the overlays in openlayers make a nice (basic) basemap and add some transparent overlays - amenities - powerlines - and so on.. bus line1, bus line2, etc... That's what

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal/approval system is too heavyweight

2008-03-20 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven GrĂ¼ner wrote: I agree with you that some terms in this process might not be optimal, same applies to depricated. But as a non-native speaker I never thought about that and just took these words for what they mean

Re: [OSM-talk] 2 divided carriage-ways meeting at traffic lights.

2008-03-19 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Steve Chilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip PS. Why are trunk_links rendered above primary/secondary streets. It make ugly junctions. This has bothered me for a while now but I have not got round to fixing it. It does look ugly and I think is quite

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal/approval system is too heavyweight

2008-03-19 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: Why not ditch the whole notion of approved features altogether. It doesn't cut any meat in our community anyway. What does approved mean, and who has the right to approve something? Having

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal/approval system is too heavyweight

2008-03-19 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: Those who make the decision have no authority anyway. So why not record the rationale without the decision, as it is anybody's free choice to follow them or not. Then welcome, everyone, to

Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails

2008-03-18 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 10:55 +, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Rodrigo Moya wrote: Sent: 18 March 2008 10:49 AM To: Blake Crosby Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours server (was: Re: ski pistes)

2008-03-17 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contours layer presented by openpistemap is simply great. Does it exist a server publishing only this layer? I'm not sure how that would work - you really need the contours data set to be the bottom layer, with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours server (was: Re: ski pistes)

2008-03-17 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Dave Stubbs wrote: There's also the amount of time it would take to render the tiles. It takes over 15 hours to render the contours used on the cycle map, and all things considered that covers

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours server

2008-03-17 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: it's faster to just let it use swap, I I/O load hits my server pretty hard. Trying to do anything else while that's happening is quite painful. :-/ Doing it without the heavy I/O load

Re: [OSM-talk] Woodland on a university campus (using layers to make areas render)

2008-03-16 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 2:44 PM, OJ W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where an area of natural=wood is inside an area of amenity=university, the woodland doesn't appear unless you put it at layer0 http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=52.9356064080633lon=-1.2017670228240827zoom=17layers=B000F000F

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle Map around Nuremberg

2008-03-14 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Lambertus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a question about the update times: I've made a start in mapping the cycle node routes in the NL.Apeldoorn area [1] last week but I don't see them on the map now. Is that probably a tagging error on my part or is the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch Esc POI issue

2008-03-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Jukka Rahkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If you select a point (POI) just for seeing the tags and then press Esc for quitting, Potlatch always warns about server connection failure. Esc just escapes if a way or a node of a way is selected and I think

Re: [OSM-talk] create a rendering test zone somewhere on the planet ?

2008-03-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Pieren Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think about this idea : - select two or three small islands somewhere on the planet, but really in the middle of 'nowhere', means no humans, no constructions, absolutely nothing. - call these islands 'mapnik',

Re: [OSM-talk] create a rendering test zone somewhere on the planet ?

2008-03-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Pieren Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can create a standalone .osm file with all this in it if you/we need a test file. That's a much better idea than polluting the database with junk! ok, forget my comment for developers who have a local environment

Re: [OSM-talk] create a rendering test zone somewhere on the planet ?

2008-03-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Pieren Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow, I'm surprised about the hostility of some answers. I mean, remember me the name of this ML... So, lets continue the talk (and not the fight): if you are already speeding 15 mph over the speedlimit in your car, you

Re: [OSM-talk] FW: Re: New to osmosis and it won't work for me

2008-02-29 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Better but I now get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it Exception in thread main java.lang.ClassFormatError: com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis (unrecognized class file version) at

Re: [OSM-talk] Parking symbols: YUCK!

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Stubbs
find all the nodes inside areas. If there are any that are just outside, we will miss them, whici is annoying, but not the end of the world. In order to find them, we can use a Simple postGIS query as suggested by Dave Stubbs (which I have attempted to reformat a bit): select

Re: [OSM-talk] Parking symbols: YUCK!

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Stubbs
find all the nodes inside areas. If there are any that are just outside, we will miss them, whici is annoying, but not the end of the world. In order to find them, we can use a Simple postGIS query as suggested by Dave Stubbs (which I have attempted to reformat a bit): select

Re: [OSM-talk] Parking symbols: YUCK!

2008-02-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Robert (Jamie) Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes wrote: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] | David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Unfortunately removing the related node isn't going to

Re: [OSM-talk] Pint symbols: YUCK!

2008-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Lauri Hahne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/02/2008, Igor Brejc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lauri Hahne wrote: IMHO The symbol is ugly. Even the old one looked better than the current one. In humble opinion we shouldn't judge other people's

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering with mapnik, what do I need?

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do the transparent layers take the same amount of time to render as the base layer

Re: [OSM-talk] Relation history

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Stubbs
it's the right URL, but: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/557 patches welcome I'm guessing. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me if this is the correct url to get the complete history of a relation from the OSM API:

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Guilhem Bonnefille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any layer presenting ONLY raw GPS data? Actually, we have Mapnik, Osmarender, Maplint, but what about a layer with

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-19 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 18, 2008 11:21 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, By co-incidence, I was in contact with another mapper who's been doing something like this to make low zoom osmarender rendering a bit prettier. What's everybody's opinion of this kind of practice? Is it not an

Re: [OSM-talk] adding OSM maps to etrex legend cx

2008-02-07 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 7, 2008 11:38 AM, maning sambale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 7:26 PM, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you got a card in the microSD slot? If so, you can either pull it out and stick it in a card reader, or else you can set the GPS to USB mass storage mode. Either

Re: [OSM-talk] adding OSM maps to etrex legend cx

2008-02-07 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 7, 2008 12:12 PM, maning sambale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, do I still need to make GMAPSUPP.IMG even if I just have one img file? My GPS only seems to pay attention to GMAPSUPP.IMG files, so yes, I think so. It may be enough to just rename it, but I don't know about that. Dave

Re: [OSM-talk] Old or dialectal names

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 6, 2008 1:39 PM, wiseLYNX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, I'm new to th OSM project, but I'm getting quite involved, as Torino (Italy), where I live, is well covered with Yahoo aerials, and it's quite effortless to fill in the neighborhoods of my home (which of course I know

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 6, 2008 7:06 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 5:57 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low number nodes that have been utterly destroyed. Basically 522-603 and a few others in the 1000's have

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 6, 2008 8:39 PM, Jon Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:23 +, Dave Stubbs wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 7:06 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 5:57 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know who/what

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

2008-02-05 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 5, 2008 4:08 PM, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 2:47 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, and Andy in particular, Hi Ben. An excellent selection of suggestions - I'll reply to them inline. I'll translate into the relation equivalents... as the past

Re: [OSM-talk] Cyclemap not updated for 2 weeks?

2008-02-01 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 1, 2008 8:37 AM, Foppe Benedictus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Andy, I just asked in IRC if somebody knew if the cyclemap was not updated the last 2 weeks, they came up with the why don't you email him solution, so here it is.. No

[Talk-GB] London progress and unnamed roads

2008-01-31 Thread Dave Stubbs
Hi, I've added a slightly modified London rendering to the progress images I've been making. The rendering dehighlights parts of the data that have probably just been traced. http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/progress/?region=london-noname There's nothing clever going on here, it just

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridges / viaducts for railways

2008-01-30 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 30, 2008 12:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:25PM -, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Why is it not a property like bridge, cutting etc. and will it render correctly? Should it be changed to viaduct=yes? Ewww, yuck... boolean flags.

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 30, 2008 8:42 AM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asking them to install and configure their own copy of Mapnik seems somewhat unreasonable... You could try osmps, and then convert the PostScript to the required format. Mapnik was just an

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 29, 2008 12:13 PM, Michael Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:59 AM 1/29/2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I wrote the following two weeks ago because I felt that the talk list was a bit flooded by administrative voting ends, voting opens, comments requested etc. messages:

Re: [OSM-talk] searching list archive

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 28, 2008 12:33 PM, Steve Chilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been asking to write a review of the peoplesmap. As part of the process I wanted to revisit the discussion on talk. Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to interrogate http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping canals

2008-01-22 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 22, 2008 2:17 PM, Dermot McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/01/2008, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maxspeed=110 -- assumed km/h maxspeed=70mph -- unit stated maxwidth=2.14 -- assumed metres maxwidht=7ft -- unit stated I'm uneasy about this - up till now,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping canals

2008-01-22 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 22, 2008 5:02 PM, Simon Hewison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: And what is the exact SI equivalent of 30mph? According to the current UK Highway Code, 30mph = 48km/h. It's wrong ;-) I can give you an approximation: 48.28032km/h. What happens though if everyone

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping canals

2008-01-22 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 22, 2008 5:39 PM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: This is really not difficult to handle. You check for a unit, if you don't understand the unit you pretend the tag didn't exist. So this means that some renderers won't render some values; whereas if we

Re: [OSM-talk] route type relations bus routes and bicycle routes

2008-01-21 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 20, 2008 11:10 PM, Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just walked part of a cycle route. In fact we walked three cycle routes at once. I would like to create a relation, type=route and then copy this to the two other relations containing the same ways. Or is there a smarter way to go about

Re: [OSM-talk] As on ground country names

2008-01-09 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 9, 2008 2:06 PM, Stefan Baebler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'd imagine that OSM's as on ground rule for primary names should also apply for country nodes (tagged with place=country), however this doesn't seem to be the case at the moment.

Re: [OSM-talk] As on ground country names

2008-01-09 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 9, 2008 4:22 PM, Michael Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:06 PM 1/9/2008, Stefan Baebler wrote: Hi! I'd imagine that OSM's as on ground rule for primary names should also apply for country nodes (tagged with place=country), however this doesn't seem to be the case at the

Re: [OSM-talk] implementation of relations in josm

2008-01-03 Thread Dave Stubbs
On 03/01/2008, bvh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:29:16AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: I agree. It is however again one of the problems where different relations will need different actions - when a way in a route relation is split, both new ways need to be members, but

Re: [OSM-talk] relations

2008-01-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
a priority for me at the moment - though I think Dave Stubbs has started work on implementing it. Yep, started on it. But got distracted a bit though... I'll probably get back working on it soonish. The implementation will only handle route type relations, which is what you want here. Relations

Re: [Talk-GB] [Fwd: Re: Speed limits]

2007-09-21 Thread Dave Stubbs
On 21/09/2007, Jonathan Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote Leaving the units off is quite a bit like not bothering with the first 2 digits of the year for whatever reason. It's more like not stating that the year is in the Gregorian calendar every time you write one. Yes

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] DIY mapping and Power to the People letters

2007-09-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On 05/09/07, Daniel Glassey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Editors reply on your letters page (A to B 61) you said: The Open Street Map project is a fascinating co-operative global venture, allowing individuals to upload mapping data from their GPS receivers, producing royalty-free street

Re: [Talk-GB] cycling routes

2007-08-16 Thread Dave Stubbs
On 16/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has just been brough to my attention. http://maps.camdencyclists.org.uk/ Had a quick look but nothing too understand it properly. Was wondering if it may be of use to those working on the cycle routes if you werent aware of it

Re: [Talk-GB] How do I tag this cyckeway?

2007-08-16 Thread Dave Stubbs
On 16/08/07, Rik van der Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My own suggestion is: whateverkey=road/track/path/trail (4m/4m/2m/1m) cycle=yes;foot=yes network=ncn;byway;burnswalk;kmtrail; network_ref=ncn7 and if you like to gather info on the pavement, also:

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