Re: [Talk-hr] jednom je slucajnost, dvaput je podudarnost, a triput je vec zavjera

2010-10-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:51:24 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: srecom jos nismo do stupnja zavjere dosli nesto se dogadja na horizontu? Cloudmade se sumnjivo prazni od OSMa 5.10.2010 http://opengeodata.org/osm-founder-steve-coast-leaves-cloudmade 8.10.2010

Re: [Talk-hr] jednom je slucajnost, dvaput je podudarnost, a triput je vec zavjera

2010-10-16 Per discussione Matija Nalis
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 05:06:05PM +, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:51:24 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: srecom jos nismo do stupnja zavjere dosli nesto se dogadja na horizontu? Cloudmade se sumnjivo prazni od OSMa 5.10.2010

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-16 Per discussione SteveC
On Oct 15, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Anthony wrote: I also haven't been kicked out of Wikipedia, though you have claimed it multiple times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/Anthony_evidence#Anthony_DiPierro

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote: We've got, it looks like, the last three months or so of tracks from about twenty vehicles, and I can break the data up into whatever chunks I want.  I've been working with one track file per seven days, which seems to be

[OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Richard Weait
Anybody object to adopting a Code of Conduct for behaviour with OpenStreetMap mailing lists, fora, blogs, and other communication channels? Would anyone find it a burden to keep their expression within the guidelines expressed in the first portion of the Code of Conduct DRAFT found here?

Re: [OSM-talk] Coraine Land Cover - OSM tags

2010-10-16 Per discussione Eric Marsden
sv == Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com writes: sv Does anyone have a list of all of the tags used for the Coraine Land sv Cover dataset? The CLC classes can be browsed at http://etc-lusi.eionet.europa.eu/CLC2000/classes/index_html and the tagging scheme selected for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 10:05, schrieb Richard Weait: Anybody object to adopting a Code of Conduct for behaviour with OpenStreetMap mailing lists, fora, blogs, and other communication channels? Yes, unless absolutely necessary (which I currently can't see), we should *absolutely* avoid such guidelines.

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: In the long run they tend to do more harm than good. Hi, can you give an example of this? I'm at a loss to understand how asking people to follow simple rules like be collaborative and be considerate could end up

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Anybody object to adopting a Code of Conduct for behaviour with OpenStreetMap mailing lists, fora, blogs, and other communication channels?  Would anyone find it a burden to keep their expression within the guidelines

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Al Haraka
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: In the long run they tend to do more harm than good. Hi, can you give an example of this? I'm at a loss to understand how asking people

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione John Smith
On 16 October 2010 19:08, Al Haraka alhar...@gmail.com wrote: initiatives mentioned before. However, I think we should keep it plain and simple and remove some caustic behavior that seems to be returning to the list after a hiatus. Collaboration and consideration Most of the caustic

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Al Haraka
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 October 2010 19:08, Al Haraka alhar...@gmail.com wrote: initiatives mentioned before.  However, I think we should keep it plain and simple and remove some caustic behavior that seems to be returning to the list

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione John Smith
On 16 October 2010 19:21, Al Haraka alhar...@gmail.com wrote: I did not single out anyone on purpose, because this is not going to be productive OR solve the current issue. Whether it is SteveC or any This thread/idea started because of suggestions made previously by SteveC and now he's the

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 10:54, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: In the long run they tend to do more harm than good. Hi, can you give an example of this? The german Wikipedia has so much please do this, please read that , please

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:32:32 +0200 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm very much in favour of adopting such a policy. At the very least, we can then stop debating whether or not we need such policies, and whether or not people's behaviour is harmful - we can simply discuss

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 12:11, schrieb Valent Turkovic: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:30 -0400, Anthony wrote: Once OSM goes ODbL, I'd expect that Mapquest will stop licensing their tiles under a free license. They distribute

Re: [OSM-talk] Coraine Land Cover - OSM tags

2010-10-16 Per discussione Pieren
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Cool thanks :) That's what i'm looking for. I'll get back to this thread once my spreadsheet making is complete. cheers, sam Fyi, in France, we imported only the polygons that didn't overlap more than 2%

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 um 14:40 schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: I agree that we need to have a map to demonstrate what one can do with OSM. But in my opinion, the one we currently have already

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-16 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 16 Oct 2010, at 11:31, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 12:11, schrieb Valent Turkovic: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:30 -0400, Anthony wrote: Once OSM goes ODbL, I'd expect that Mapquest will stop licensing

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: As an alternative, consider email filters.  Filters can be per sender or per keyword, depending on your email system. I guess these are two totally different schools of thought: 1) There is one community, one pool of

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: The german Wikipedia has so much please do this, please read that , please follow ..., ... that it turns out to be no more fun working there. I've almost stopped it for exact this reason. And the English Wikipedia

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-16 Per discussione Anthony
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 2:29 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: http://miamichaela.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/moron.jpg https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User:Anthonydiff=391046808oldid=391046671 ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Serge Wroclawski
Okay folks, we've talked about a Code of Conduct for a long time. Here's my proposal for one. It's a draft, so let's discuss. I'm attaching it here and it's also on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Code_of_Conduct My goal is after some discussion here, we can bring it to a

Re: [OSM-talk] What's up in Cloudmade?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Anthony
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:35 AM, Fabio Alessandro Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of days Steve and the community ambassador [1] are leaving CloudMade... is happening something big? Sure. Mapquest. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 14:15, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: The german Wikipedia has so much please do this, please read that , please follow ..., ... that it turns out to be no more fun working there. I've almost stopped it for

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Okay folks, we've talked about a Code of Conduct for a long time. Here's my proposal for one. Obviously Serge is using filtering to improve his life. Somebody tell him this is a good idea. ;-)

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Anthony
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Anybody object to adopting a Code of Conduct for behaviour with OpenStreetMap mailing lists, fora, blogs, and other communication channels? It's a good idea in theory, but I'm afraid it wouldn't work in practice within

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Anybody object to adopting a Code of Conduct for behaviour with OpenStreetMap mailing lists, fora, blogs, and other communication channels?  Would anyone find it a burden to keep their expression within the guidelines

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 14:36, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: Here's the contents of that page, so we can discuss it on the list: = Draft OpenStreetMap Code of Conduct = snip Why did you leave out the Violations and Enforcement section of that page altogether? Please not again some voodoo-magic circle

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net [2010-10-14 10:47 -0700]: I think you could largely sum up his criticisms in two broad headings:    1. US OSM contributors need to get their shit together    2. European maps don't

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Per discussione Richard
On Saturday 16 October 2010 13:46:44 Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net [2010-10-14 10:47 -0700]: I think you could largely sum up his criticisms in two broad headings: 1. US OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Why did you leave out the Violations and Enforcement section of that page altogether? Because no such section exists in Ubuntu's CoC as fas as I know. And to me, a code of conduct is not about rules as it is more

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Okay folks, we've talked about a Code of Conduct for a long time. Here's my proposal for one. Hmm, there's something about it that doesn't work. It seems very much geared towards certain software development efforts

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione SteveC
Oh hardly. All I have done is call out Anthony and link to the things he denies about wikipedia. You, too, are another example of someone using a fake name and occasionally trolling, Steve stevecoast.com On Oct 16, 2010, at 3:13 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 October

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Hmmm, you obviously did not read the Violations_and_Enforcement section of the wiki page :-( My mistake. Yeah, it's not well worded. It has a top-down heavy-handed feel to it: Be good. Or bad things will happen to

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Kevin Peat
On 16 October 2010 15:33, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Also, what's the scope - are we talking about a code of conduct for the mailing lists? for contributors to the database? for contributors to the wider OSM universe? This is a very good point. It is hard to see how a CoC

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione John Smith
On 17 October 2010 00:36, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Oh hardly. All I have done is call out Anthony and link to the things he denies about wikipedia. What specifically has any of that to do with OSM? You, too, are another example of someone using a fake name and occasionally

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione SteveC
Steve stevecoast.com On Oct 16, 2010, at 8:43 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 October 2010 00:36, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Oh hardly. All I have done is call out Anthony and link to the things he denies about wikipedia. What specifically has any of that to

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com wrote: On 16 October 2010 15:33, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Also, what's the scope - are we talking about a code of conduct for the mailing lists? for contributors to the database? for contributors to the wider

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione John Smith
On 17 October 2010 00:58, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I wish i had a pony. This is why things end up in a endless debate, people pose serious questions and you either can't be bothered, or won't respond properly so the debate can move forward.

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione SteveC
Well that's kind of hilarious given you cut out the first half of my email where I exactly answered your question Duane. Steve stevecoast.com On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:02 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 October 2010 00:58, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I wish i had a

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione John Smith
On 17 October 2010 01:16, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Well that's kind of hilarious given you cut out the first half of my email where I exactly answered your question Duane. What ever you say Mark, but then again I've come to expect side stepping from you, making any claim you wish

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Dave Stubbs
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:02 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 October 2010 00:58, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I wish i had a pony. This is why things end up in a endless debate, people pose serious questions and you either can't be bothered, or won't respond properly

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione SteveC
Fair point Dave. I'm joining you guys and filtering from now on. :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*ed...@billiau.net .spam/ On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Dave Stubbs wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:02 PM, John Smith

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Kevin Peat
On 16 October 2010 16:01, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: That's really a technical issue: synchronizing accounts. Let's not get caught up in implementation details. Anybody who doesn't like readiing postings by ... just filter them. The problem with disruptive people goes

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Saturday 16 October 2010 17:40:36 SteveC wrote: :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\   ^(to|cc|bcc).*deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com|\   ^(to|cc|bcc).*ed...@billiau.net .spam/ :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*ed...@billiau.net

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione SteveC
On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: On Saturday 16 October 2010 17:40:36 SteveC wrote: :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*ed...@billiau.net .spam/ :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 16:04, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Please not again some voodoo-magic circle that decides what is best for us Do you have some suggestion? Yes, don't do such things ;-) Regards, ULFL

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Alan Millar
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote:  Hmm... there will be a concentration of points near drivers' homes... but then again, also near every place they stop as well.  Is this something to worry about? If you felt protective about it, you could make a list of

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-16 Per discussione David Fawcett
Great and constructive suggestions Jonas! On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 um 14:40 schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: I agree that we need to have a map to demonstrate what one can do with OSM. But in my opinion,

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Anthony
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 10:36 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Oh hardly. All I have done is call out Anthony and link to the things he denies about wikipedia. 1) You've done much more than that, publicly insulting many people other than myself. 2) Even if your claims about me were true,

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Per discussione Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:40:36 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Fair point Dave. I'm joining you guys and filtering from now on. :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*ed...@billiau.net .spam/ This is why I find this

Re: [OSM-talk] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Per discussione Paul Johnson
On 10/16/2010 08:46 AM, Richard Weait wrote: So, highways and road culture play a large role in the life of many North Americans, there are even songs that we know like Route 66, and Highway 61 that show affection for specific roads. I wonder if it's worth the trouble and effort to maintain

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Per discussione Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I wonder if it's worth the trouble and effort to maintain US-HISTORIC routes, since their use is primarily recreational and are frequently inconsistent in their continued existence, and frequently their historic posted

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Steve Bennett
Or, if there are clear working hours, ditch anything before 9am or after 6pm, or whatever. Steve On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Alan Millar amillar...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote:    Hmm... there will be a concentration of points

[OSM-talk-nl] Coming Soon: Mapping Party Putten

2010-10-16 Per discussione robert
Hoi Mede-Mappers, Na de succesvolle Mapping Party in Utrecht was het al aangekondigd: Mapping Party Putten. Voor de Mappers van het eerste uur en voor Mappers van een wat later tijdstip ligt er bij ons een uitdaging. Bijsteren

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Coming Soon: Mapping Party Putten

2010-10-16 Per discussione Floris Looijesteijn
Hallo, Ik zie op het forum een verzameladres. Dat is neem ik aan een woonhuis, dus daar zal niet de hele dag iemand aanwezig zijn neem ik aan? Ik moet uit de kop van Noord-Holland komen, is er nog iemand die die kant op gaat en me misschien een deel van de 2:40 reistijd met de trein kan

Re: [Talk-de] Sportvereine

2010-10-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 07:41, schrieb Bernd Wurst: IMHO auf jeden Fall mit e.V.. Bei OSM gilt, den ausführlichsten Namen zu erfassen, denn Kürzen kann ein Algorithmus. e.V. als Abkürzung würde ich dabei dennoch stehen lassen, da es (genau wie GmbH) eine offizielle Schreibweise der Rechtsform ist. Ich

Re: [Talk-de] Sportvereine

2010-10-16 Per discussione aighes
Hallo Stephan Wolff wrote: 4. Sammelvereine mit mehreren Sparten z.B. Dorfverein mit Fußball-, Tennis-, Turn- und Kanuabteilung - Jede Sportanlage mit name=SV Neudorf e.V. und sport=* Mögliche Alternativen: - name=SV Neudorf e.V. - Tennisabteilung - name=SV Neudorf e.V.

Re: [Talk-de] Relation runterladen?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?\nosm version='0.6' enerator='JOSM' moin moin, hier noch ein fast ungebrauchtes g zum einbauen, damit aus dem enerator wieder ein generator wird. ;) lg walter - Wanderer, kommst Du nach Liechtenstein, tritt nicht daneben, tritt voll hinein. - Ingo Insterburg

[Talk-de] lnm: freigegebenes Heft zu GPS, freien Karten und Linux

2010-10-16 Per discussione Benjamin Hagemann
Hallo Zusammen, das Linux Magazin gibt inzwischen die Hefte die ein Jahr alt sind frei, aktuell ist dies also das Heft 12/2009 mit den Themen Linux and the City. Großer GPS-Wegweiser - freie Karten und Tools für Handys und Netbooks:

[Talk-de] Wasserwerk - wie taggen

2010-10-16 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
HI ! bisher wurde primär von Wasserzapfstellen gesprochen. In unseren Breiten wird die Wasserversorgung zentral geregelt. Weiß einer wie Wasserwerke und die zugehörigen (nicht frei zugänglichen) Brunnen getaggt werden ?? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Projekt des Monats Oktober - Halbzeit

2010-10-16 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! sieht gar nicht so schlecht aus nach der halben Zeit: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Project_of_the_month/2010/october#Statistik Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel: Liste der bisherigen Zustimmungen veroeffentlicht

2010-10-16 Per discussione Karl Eichwalder
Walter Nordmann walter.nordm...@web.de writes: glaub ich nicht, dass er irgendwas erlauben wird. er ist doch vor einigen monaten tiefst-beleidigt und eingeschnappt abgehauen nicht ohne seine daten brutal zu löschen. Das wäre dann vandalismus gewesen und man hätte das mutwillige löschen

Re: [Talk-de] Wasserwerk - wie taggen

2010-10-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 18:59, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: HI ! bisher wurde primär von Wasserzapfstellen gesprochen. In unseren Breiten wird die Wasserversorgung zentral geregelt. Weiß einer wie Wasserwerke und die zugehörigen (nicht frei zugänglichen) Brunnen getaggt werden ??

[Talk-de] farmland in DE:MapFeatures

2010-10-16 Per discussione Chris66
Moin, der Eintrag zu farmland in den http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Map_Features müsste mal berichtigt werden. Ist derzeit als veraltet eingetragen. Ich selber komme mit den Templates nicht zu recht. In den Original-MF sind beide Tags noch gleichberechtigt (farmland: Synonyme for farm)

[Talk-de] Wochennotiz Nr. 13 10.10. - 16.10.10

2010-10-16 Per discussione Jonas Krückel
Wir haben soeben die neuste Ausgabe der Wochennotiz veröffentlicht, wie immer mit allen wichtigen und interessanten Neuigkeiten aus dem OSM-Universum: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/2010/10/osm-wochennotiz-nr-13/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! -Jonas ___

Re: [Talk-de] api-download bei semikon-getrennten-values

2010-10-16 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. Oktober 2010 13:32 schrieb NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Ein weiteres Argument dagegen. Heute sind diese Fehler offensichtlich. Wenn sie beim Import pauschal ausmultipliziert werden, entstehen mehrere sich überlagernde Objekte, die insgesamt sinnlos sind, das

Re: [Talk-de] api-download bei semikon-getrennten-values

2010-10-16 Per discussione Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Freitag 15 Oktober 2010 13:32:06 schrieb NopMap: Wenn sie beim Import pauschal ausmultipliziert werden, entstehen mehrere sich überlagernde Objekte, die insgesamt sinnlos sind, das Renderergebnis ist Zufall aber jedes für sich sieht korrekt aus. Den Fehler findet man nur noch

Re: [Talk-de] Sportvereine

2010-10-16 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. Oktober 2010 20:24 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Sportvereine werden sind in OSM sehr unvollständig und ziemlich unterschiedlich eingetragen, obwohl sie in vielen Dörfern oder Stadtteilen eine der wichtigsten Institutionen sind und häufig als Veranstaltungsorte erscheinen. Wie

Re: [Talk-de] api-download bei semikon-getrennten-values

2010-10-16 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 16. Oktober 2010 23:56 schrieb Wolfgang wolfg...@ivkasogis.de: 7. Es bleibt die Diskussion über das Semikolon. Mich hat die Implementation 5 Minuten und 3 Programmzeilen gekostet. Das ist zugegebenermaßen nicht ganz fair. da die App neu ist. Wer eine bessere Möglichkeit weiß, multiple

Re: [Talk-de] Projekt des Monats Oktober - Halbzeit

2010-10-16 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
jan99 wrote: sieht gar nicht so schlecht aus nach der halben Zeit: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Project_of_the_month/2010/october#Statistik ja, wenn klar wäre, was diese statistik bedeuten soll: a) die anzahl getaggter wasserstellen hat etwas zugenommen b) was bedeutet diese - für

[Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione alessio
Nel wiki manca questa categoria, e nonostante al momento sia usata pochissimo ritengo sarebbe appropriato includerla. Avete presente il classico tabacchino all'angolo, quello che oltre alle sigarette vende anche pipe e accessori per tabagisti, comprese le schifosissime carammelle per tabagisti?

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Gianfra g
Sono d'accordo, Vedi su tagstat, ci sono varie occorenze del temine, sia come shop=tobacco che come tobacco=yes http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/search.php?query=tobacco 164 occorrenze al 26 agosto non son poche, si dovrebbe anzi uniformare shop=tobacco e shop=tobacconist Più

Re: [Talk-it] OSM ad Italiacamp

2010-10-16 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 15 ottobre 2010 15:41, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Certo, ma impone delle regole su come alcuni dati debbano essere confezionati. Pertanto, sempre in una ottica di liberare bene i dati, direi che e' un qualcosa con cui prima o poi ci si scontra. Concordi? si,

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione alessio
In data sabato 16 ottobre 2010 11:01:48, Gianfra g ha scritto: Più problematico risolvere il tobacco=yes, che sebbene sia usato pochissimo penso utile nei paesi dove la vendita non è vincolata alle licenze come in Italia. Basta definirne l'utilizzo: oltre al tabacchino ci sono tantissime

Re: [Talk-it] Mini Introduzione ad OSM

2010-10-16 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Sono state effettuate diverse correzioni ora dovremmo avere una versione stabile se qualcuno riscontra errori ortografici me lo faccia sapere. ciao Luca [0] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/italy_miniguida/tutorial.pdf [1]

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Stefano Pallicca
Il 16/10/2010 11:17, alessio ha scritto: In data sabato 16 ottobre 2010 11:01:48, Gianfra g ha scritto: Più problematico risolvere il tobacco=yes, che sebbene sia usato pochissimo penso utile nei paesi dove la vendita non è vincolata alle licenze come in Italia. Basta definirne

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione alessio
Ho aggiunto il tag alle core features, sia nella pagina inglese (qualcuno dia un'occhiata alla definizione che gli ho dato e magari ne corregga la grammatica se opportuno) che in quella italiana. Sulla seconda c'è un problema: nonostante salvi la modifica con la definizione del tag questa

Re: [Talk-it] Mini Introduzione ad OSM

2010-10-16 Per discussione Daniele Forsi
2010/10/16 Luca Delucchi: versione stabile se qualcuno riscontra errori ortografici me lo faccia sapere. segnalo qualche errore e un paio di suggerimenti Infatti ` possibile usare i dati OpenStreetMap liberamente per qualsiasi scopo, anche quelli commerciali, con il solo vincolo di citare

[Talk-it] Lampedusa e Linosa tagliate fuori da italy.osm [Risolto]

2010-10-16 Per discussione Davide Governale
Salve a tutti, Per risolvere il problema dell'assenza del comune di Lampedusa e Linosa da italy.osm ho mandato una mail a Frederik Ramm di geofabrik come suggeritomi da Simone ed il problema è già stato risolto dal gentile e velocissimo Frederik, riporto di seguito la mail: Hi, Davide

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Stefano Tampieri
Un link ? Il giorno 16 ottobre 2010 11:59, alessio klava...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ho aggiunto il tag alle core features, sia nella pagina inglese (qualcuno dia un'occhiata alla definizione che gli ho dato e magari ne corregga la grammatica se opportuno) che in quella italiana. Sulla seconda

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione alessio
In data sabato 16 ottobre 2010 12:18:54, Stefano Tampieri ha scritto: Un link ? Giusto. :-) Inglese: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:shop Italiano: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:It:Map_Features:shop Sto creando anche una pagina in italiano che descriva

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Stefano Tampieri
Risolto, avevi fatto un errore nel Map_Features inglese, quando avevi copiato dalla sezione precedente (tatoo appunto) non avevi cambiato tattoo:desc e quindi per la tabella italiana andava a prendere comunque la descrizione di quella di tattoo Il giorno 16 ottobre 2010 12:24, alessio

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione alessio
In data sabato 16 ottobre 2010 12:40:32, Stefano Tampieri ha scritto: : Risolto, avevi fatto un errore nel Map_Features inglese, quando avevi copiato dalla sezione precedente (tatoo appunto) non avevi cambiato tattoo:desc e quindi per la tabella italiana andava a prendere comunque la

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Stefano Tampieri
In ogni caso prima di fare salva sulla Wiki, fai anteprima così vedi se va tutto bene! adesso ci sono 3 modifiche tue consecutive per niente ;-) ciao Stefano Il giorno 16 ottobre 2010 12:49, alessio klava...@gmail.com ha scritto: In data sabato 16 ottobre 2010 12:40:32, Stefano Tampieri ha

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione alessio
In data sabato 16 ottobre 2010 12:50:47, Stefano Tampieri ha scritto: : In ogni caso prima di fare salva sulla Wiki, fai anteprima così vedi se va tutto bene! adesso ci sono 3 modifiche tue consecutive per niente ;-) C'hai ragione: sono ancora piuttosto newbie della wikia. Intanto ho

Re: [Talk-it] OSM ad Italiacamp

2010-10-16 Per discussione ale_z...@libero.it
Messaggio originale Da: napoo...@gmail.com Data: 15/10/2010 15.41 A: openstreetmap list - italianotalk-it@openstreetmap.org Ogg: Re: [Talk-it] OSM ad Italiacamp Immagino poi che sarai già pronto anche ad intervenire sulla direttiva INSPIRE http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/ anche se

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of alessio Sent: 16 October 2010 12:25 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo? In data sabato 16 ottobre 2010 12:18:54,

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of alessio Sent: 16 October 2010 13:01 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo? Intanto ho preparato una bozza per la

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of alessio Sent: 16 October 2010 13:01 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo? Intanto ho preparato una bozza per la

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione alessio
In data sabato 16 ottobre 2010 15:00:33, Alberto Nogaro ha scritto: Al posto di gambling=yes, si potrebbe rimandare a questa proposta [1], in modo da usare gli stessi valori (sezione Suggestion 2) che verrebbero usati anche da altri tipi di negozi. [1]

Re: [Talk-it] Tag shop=tobacco. L'accendiamo?

2010-10-16 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/16 Gianfra g gianfrancoglio...@hotmail.com: Sono d'accordo, Vedi su tagstat, ci sono varie occorenze del temine, sia come shop=tobacco che come tobacco=yes http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/search.php?query=tobacco 164 occorrenze al 26 agosto non son poche, si dovrebbe anzi

Re: [Talk-es] ¿Restricción de giro correcta?

2010-10-16 Per discussione Manuel García
El 15/10/2010 8:32, bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: He establecido una restricción de giro [1]. Resulta que cuando he ido a crearla con el plugin de JOSM me ha dicho que había un error porque el nodo de intersección entre las vías (un semáforo) no era vía, y que si quería convertirla. Así lo he

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-16 Per discussione sanchi
Hola Hecho una primera prueba. Aquí tenéis los 2 vídeos que han salido. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MSNZ56NW http://www.megaupload.com/?d=915QAANM Está realizada la grabación con 2 resoluciones diferente. La primera a 1920*1080 y después pasada a 1280*720 y la segunda directamente en 1280*720.

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-16 Per discussione Alvaro Lara Cano
El segundo enlace yo no lo he podido visualizar dice que el enlace esta inaccesible, solo me deja descargar el primero, y por lo que he visto, está muy bien. Yo ayer estuve acabando con mis videos, los edite y los he subido a youtube, pero...menuda chapuza. están en formato panorámico, pero al

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-16 Per discussione Alvaro Lara Cano
Ya he visto los vídeos Sanchi, yo me quedo con el segundo, simplemente porque se ven de una manera mas clara las urls y donde haces click en la web de JOSM. Una cosa... ¿habría que explicar cómo instalar JAVA? porque en GNU/Linux, las dependencias se resuelven solas, pero en Window$ no... El

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-16 Per discussione sanchi
Entre otras cosas por eso lo grabe de nuevo en esa resolución. Pues lo del Java no me he dado cuenta porque como siempre lo tengo instalado no me hizo falta pero tienes razón. Ahora lo miro a ver a ponerlo en el vídeo. Esta muy bien el vídeo. Hasta he aprendido otra forma de usar las capas

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-16 Per discussione sanchi
Si se abre el JOSM y no esta el Java instalado avisa y sale para instalarlo así que voy a grabar un vídeo donde salga El 16 de octubre de 2010 23:23, sanchi sanc...@gmail.com escribió: Entre otras cosas por eso lo grabe de nuevo en esa resolución. Pues lo del Java no me he dado cuenta porque

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-16 Per discussione Alvaro Lara Cano
Antes de que te pongas a grabar otro vídeo sobre java, otra idea seria separarlo. Asi como yo en mi vídeo he separado la interfaz gráfica de la linea de comandos, tu podrías hacer otro suelto sobre como instalar java. y luego al editarlo, se ponen títulos, y listo. Creo que quedaría mejor. El

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