Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione 80n
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Whatever you publish could have other ingredients than just data; perhaps, a few hundred hours' worth of a cartographer's editing in Illustrator. *That* you don't have to release; it is yours to keep. That can't be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: I think that anything said until here will not be disputed by Richard Indeed not. :) the bit that *can* be disputed is whether or not it is permissible to label your resulting image a database and then not release the database behind it. Yep. I read the EU Database

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/28/11 10:43, 80n wrote: If you cannot reproduce the Produced Work 100% faithfully from the Derived Database in what sense does the Derived Database contain all of the information required to create the Produced Work? It doesn't, and it doesn't have to. Only in so far as the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione 80n
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 11/28/11 10:43, 80n wrote: If you cannot reproduce the Produced Work 100% faithfully from the Derived Database in what sense does the Derived Database contain all of the information required to create the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/28/11 11:58, 80n wrote: That's a very fine line you are trying to draw. Yes, I agree it is difficult. I think that it is entirely possible to arrive at an identical end product through different processes, where one process has different license implications than the other. For

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione 80n
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 11/28/11 11:58, 80n wrote: That's a very fine line you are trying to draw. Yes, I agree it is difficult. I think that it is entirely possible to arrive at an identical end product through different

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione Jonathan Harley
On 28/11/11 11:55, 80n wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org mailto:frede...@remote.org wrote: Yes, I agree it is difficult. I think that it is entirely possible to arrive at an identical end product through different processes, where one

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I see that you and Frederik disagreed here.  (FWIW I think he is right - a PNG file can clearly be seen as a database of pixel values.  It is an image too, and perhaps even a map or a photograph, but legally it would be hard to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione 80n
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I see that you and Frederik disagreed here. (FWIW I think he is right - a PNG file can clearly be seen as a database of pixel values. It is an

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I see that you and Frederik disagreed here.  (FWIW I think he is right - a PNG

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/28/2011 12:55 PM, 80n wrote: I could render a map from OSM and then render something else on top of it, say a commercially acquired set of hotel POIs. That would clearly be a Produced Work; I could point anyone asking for the source data to the planet file and the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione James Livingston
On 28 November 2011 21:55, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.orgwrote: I could render a map from OSM and then render something else on top of it, say a commercially acquired set of hotel POIs. That would clearly be a Produced Work; I

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
It worked well.  It planned a route to the bus terminal in Seoul, which generally matched the route the bus actually took (naturally, I had no influence over the route the driver took).  The moving map is quite mesmerising and all drawn from OSM vector data in real time. Incidentally do any of

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Per discussione Parveen Arora
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: I understand your desire to have an official application. If you'll notice, though, there is no official OSM editor. Instead, there's Potlatch for in-browser editing Ohh, Yes there are different tools combined together to

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Per discussione Etienne Trimaille
I tried Navit a few weeks ago, and I keep using it. Offline vector maps, no internet access needed, the search engine isn't bad, ...Thanks to the xml file navit.xml, we can customize the app (ui, vehicle with no toll, stylesheets for maps, ...). It's free and opensource. However, the ui is not

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Per discussione Parveen Arora
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Navit is available for Android, and it's probably very easy for you to try it out.  It's still 'under development', so not as slick as you might expect, but it does work. Yes I have installed Navit, but

[OSM-talk] OSM based project - PrishtinaBuses.info

2011-11-28 Per discussione Altin Ukshini
Hello there, I'm Altin http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Altin a contributor from Kosovohttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.5885009765625lon=21.0594177246094zoom=9 . I would just like to let you know about a project based on Open Street Map that we are about to finish by the end of this month

Re: [OSM-talk] USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Phil Endecott
Taru Ani wrote: USGS topo maps are in the public domain ( http://www.usgs.gov/laws/info_policies.html), but must give credit to the USGS. Not, you don't have to acknowledge them; they can be used without restriction. (If you did, they wouldn't be public domain.) However, they do encourage

Re: [OSM-talk] USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Ian
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:56:44 PM UTC-6, Taru Ani wrote: I am sure this has already been discussed, but I couldn't find definitive reference to it on the forums: USGS topo maps are in the public domain ( http://www.usgs.gov/laws/info_policies.html), but must give credit to the USGS.

Re: [OSM-talk] USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Ian ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: Most of the information present on USGS Topo Maps should already be present on the map due to an import of the GNIS dataset a couple years ago. And fixing that import so that the GNIS points are better aligned by your local

Re: [OSM-talk] USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Greg Troxel
Richard Weait rich...@weait.com writes: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Ian ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: Most of the information present on USGS Topo Maps should already be present on the map due to an import of the GNIS dataset a couple years ago. And fixing that import so that the GNIS

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Per discussione yvecai
On 28. 11. 11 09:18, Nick Whitelegg wrote: It worked well. It planned a route to the bus terminal in Seoul, which generally matched the route the bus actually took (naturally, I had no influence over the route the driver took). The moving map is quite mesmerising and all drawn from OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Mike N
On 11/28/2011 11:54 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: the POIs such as churches, cemeteries, schools I'm continually amazed by the turnover of schools due to modernization, expansion, etc.My pre-survey of a new area is to find the schools so that I can see what the building is now being used for,

Re: [OSM-talk] USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione David Fawcett
The 24K topos may have better locational accuracy, but GNIS likely has better temporal accuracy. Some of the topos have not been updated in ~50 years. David. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com writes: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at

[OSM-talk] Vista eTrex 10,20,30 series

2011-11-28 Per discussione Mike N
In the toy gadget category, there's the new Garmin eTrex 10,20, and 30 GPS Navigator / logger. I recently had a chance to get hands on one of these to see if I could measure the effect of additional GLONASS satellites on measurement. While a full analysis would be very complex, I wanted to

[OSM-talk] Tile layer in JOSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
I am not a tiled map service wizard but I sure thought I could get this done. What I have: a Shapefile with roads in Utah[1]. What I want: to get a background layer for JOSM / Potlatch that highlights the named highways (federal, state and local numbered routes). Why I want this: to (allow people

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
I think the word independent also applies to data and other materials. I don't think so. Claiming that a collection of data would not be a database if the Data is Not independent does not make much sense IMHO ___ legal-talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
On that matter -- I've been working on an idea for a GNIS microtasking platform. What it would do is: * Show a random non-improved GNIS point in your neighborhood - name + map * Allow you to 1) drag the point to the correct location, 2) flag it as no longer existing or 3) flag it as incorrect

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Greg Troxel
On that matter -- I've been working on an idea for a GNIS microtasking platform. What it would do is: * Show a random non-improved GNIS point in your neighborhood - name + map * Allow you to 1) drag the point to the correct location, 2) flag it as no longer existing or 3) flag

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Josh Doe
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:  On that matter -- I've been working on an idea for a GNIS microtasking  platform. What it would do is:  * Show a random non-improved GNIS point in your neighborhood - name +    map  * Allow you to 1) drag the point to the

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Adam Schreiber
I know that I've made changes to GNIS nodes in areas that I map in. Will nodes that have been modified since import be excluded from the microtasker? Cheers, Adam On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione David Fawcett
I am interested in this concept/project. On Nov 28, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: On that matter -- I've been working on an idea for a GNIS microtasking platform. What it would do is: * Show a random non-improved GNIS point in your neighborhood - name + map *

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Adam Schreiber sa...@clemson.edu wrote: I know that I've made changes to GNIS nodes in areas that I map in. Will nodes that have been modified since import be excluded from the microtasker? They would be. -- martijn van exel geospatial omnivore 1109 1st ave

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM based project - PrishtinaBuses.info

2011-11-28 Per discussione Mike Dupont
Thats great Altin, you guys are doing a good job. What is the average age on this project ? 17? Anyway, keep up the good work. btw, the code is here https://github.com/prishtinabuses/prishtinabuses mike On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Altin Ukshini altin.uksh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there,

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Graham Jones
On 28 November 2011 19:10, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: That makes sense, but how do you deal with logging the modifier of the data - is this a webapp, and do people log in with OAuth? If you decide to develop this as a web application, it might be worth looking at the outcome of one

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM based project - PrishtinaBuses.info

2011-11-28 Per discussione Graham Jones
Hi, It looks very good, well done! I'll have a look at your code to see how it works. Graham. -- Graham Jones Hartlepool, UK. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 November 2011 19:10, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: That makes sense, but how do you deal with logging the modifier of the data - is this a webapp, and do people log in with OAuth? If you decide to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM based project - PrishtinaBuses.info

2011-11-28 Per discussione Besfort Guri
And I was thinking if those files can help and uploading in openbusmap.org. I think this can help too ? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, It looks very good, well done! I'll have a look at your code to see how it works. Graham. -- Graham

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile layer in JOSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/28/2011 07:10 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * Publish the shapefile as a WMS through GeoServer[3]. Why not leave it at that and access the WMS directly from JOSM? Potlatch requires tiles but since you only seem to want to use JOSM, you can have JOSM talk to your WMS directly,

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile layer in JOSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 11/28/2011 07:10 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * Publish the shapefile as a WMS through GeoServer[3]. Why not leave it at that and access the WMS directly from JOSM? Potlatch requires tiles but since you only

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM based project - PrishtinaBuses.info

2011-11-28 Per discussione Altin Ukshini
Hi there, @Mike yes the average is 17 :) im 16 though... BTW the link I gave is the latest code (not yours) Please take a look at it, every help/contribution is more than welcomed :) Bests, Altin On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Besfort Guri besig...@gmail.com wrote: And I was thinking if

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: I understand your desire to have an official application. If you'll notice, though, there is no official OSM editor. Instead, there's Potlatch for

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Per discussione Parveen Arora
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how you propose that OSM write an application. First of all, would it be a map display/use app or a map data editing app? It should be just a map display with basic features(not all in one) which should only

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Michal Migurski
This is a great idea, especially the non-improved GNIS points in your neighborhood. Where do OSBugs go, though? I'm under the impression it's a bit of a graveyard, and your description sounds like something that should allow people to push fixes right to the map themselves. Make them

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/28/2011 07:57 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * Show a random non-improved GNIS point in your neighborhood - name + map [...] Ideally it would be adaptable to any point data imports that need similar cleanup. I hope we all agree that ideally, such a cleanup should happen as part of

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppuntennetwerken, hun complexiteit en begrijpelijke misverstanden eromheen

2011-11-28 Per discussione Jeroen Muris
Jo, Dank je wel voor al je inspanningen én je oor voor de gedachten van anderen daarover. Persoonlijk denk ik je tips en je script te gaan/blijven gebruiken wanneer ik met fietsknooppuntennetwerken werk. Voor de volledigheid, vooral voor mezelf, nog de link naar de rapportage-pagina:

[OSM-talk-nl] [OT] Nederlandstalig OSGeo chapter

2011-11-28 Per discussione Frank Steggink
Hoi, Bericht van de Nederlandstalige mailinglijst van OSGeo (de open source geospatial foundation). Ik denk dat er onder diverse OSM'ers die veel gebruik maken van open source software eveneens interesse bestaat. Tijdens de FOSS4G 2011 conferentie in Denver is het idee ontstaan om het Dutch

[OSM-talk-nl] GeoFreedomDay

2011-11-28 Per discussione Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Er komt weer een Geo Freedom Day aan, over twee weken op zaterdag. Ik kan het uiteraard van harte aanbevelen :) http://www.geofreedomday.nl/ Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla

Re: [talk-au] Intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione Leon Kernan
I've just done a pass over the area and hopefully fixed a lot of issues. Hope no-one minds that I've ripped out a lot of the unnecessary ways. Found a couple of oneways pointing to dead ends, not to mention roads crossing without junctions. Turns out they went for several km's up Burwood Highway

Re: [talk-au] Intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione Leon Kernan
Oh crap, i've just discovered the same thing at the junction of Mountain Highway, Wantirna Road and Boronia Road. Backup please! On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: I've just done a pass over the area and hopefully fixed a lot of issues. Hope no-one minds

Re: [talk-au] Intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione Ross Scanlon
Well now they are doing it to Canberra too: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-35.282325lon=149.147432zoom=19 I've sent them a message to ask them to stop doing it so we will see. Cheers Ross On 28/11/11 13:56, Leon Kernan wrote: (Sorry, forgot to cc the list) Wow, that wasn't that bad

Re: [talk-au] Intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione Nick Hocking
Luke Wrote I've backed you up on that one. All removed! I have no idea what their logic is behind (wrongly) mapping non-separated turning lanes in the first place! Hi Luke, Do you think that he may be upset at losing the railway station naming edit war a while back and may be trying to get his

Re: [talk-au] [OpenStreetMap] intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione Ross Scanlon
Ok lets look at one intersection: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2lat=-37.757227lon=145.354724zoom=18 This will open in potlatch 2 or you can view it here on the map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.75735lon=145.355389zoom=18 ways 136173430, 13673431, 13673419,

Re: [talk-au] [OpenStreetMap] intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione Ben Johnson
On 29/11/2011, at 3:20 PM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: I will continue to edit to get the roads and intersections to look professional, reflecting reality, rather than the confusing, chunky rendering with an over-abundance of arrows and street names that I so often

Re: [talk-au] [OpenStreetMap] intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione Sam Wilson
On Tue, November 29, 2011 1:47 pm, Ben Johnson wrote: However, we need to break these rules in order to put small but important isolated townships on the map, so it's a case where tagging for the renderer is accepted, but it's something that I'm not comfortable with and is a perfect example to

Re: [talk-au] [OpenStreetMap] intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione waldo000...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: ... However, we need to break these rules in order to put small but important isolated townships on the map, so it's a case where tagging for the renderer is accepted, ... Well it's not accepted by me - IMHO you

Re: [talk-au] [OpenStreetMap] intersections

2011-11-28 Per discussione Nick Hocking
Ben wrote... Well it's not accepted by me - IMHO you just need some more tags to express the information you want: At this years SOTM there was a brilliant talk about OSM Landmarks. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SotM_2011_session:_Landmarks_in_OSM (unfortunately I can't find the online

Re: [Talk-de] Wie ÜberblicküberÄnderungen behalten?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
hi manuel, ich benutze dafür den ito-osm-mapper http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?area=4239:2 registrieren und eine bbox für dein gebiet anlegen. die wird alle paar tage aktualisiert. 'nen news-feeder haben die auch - damit ist es noch einfacher. gruss walter - Wenn du den Wald vor

Re: [Talk-de] Wie ÜberblicküberÄnderungen behalten?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
hier mal ein screenshot, da man erst was sieht, wenn man registriert ist: http://wnordmann.homeunix.com/images/osm/allgemeines/screenshot%20at%202011-11-28%20091438.png http://wnordmann.homeunix.com/images/osm/allgemeines/screenshot%20at%202011-11-28%20091438.png gruss walter - Wenn du

Re: [Talk-de] Wie ÜberblicküberÄnderungen behalten?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Pascal Neis
Hi, Manuel Reimer schrieb: Welche Hilfsmittel gibt es, um besser überblicken zu können, was sich in einem bestimmten Gebiet geändert hat? also ich finde die ITO Map mit den letzten Änderungen der 7 oder 90 Tage sehr gut:

Re: [Talk-de] Wie ÜberblicküberÄnderungen behalten?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Pascal Neis
Hi, Pascal Neis schrieb: Manuel Reimer schrieb: Welche Hilfsmittel gibt es, um besser überblicken zu können, was sich in einem bestimmten Gebiet geändert hat? also ich finde die ITO Map mit den letzten Änderungen der 7 oder 90 Tage sehr gut:

Re: [Talk-de] Wie ÜberblicküberÄnderungen behalten?

2011-11-28 Per discussione André Riedel
Am 28. November 2011 08:14 schrieb Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de: Welche Hilfsmittel gibt es, um besser überblicken zu können, was sich in einem bestimmten Gebiet geändert hat? Es gibt zwei schöne Tools: 1. OSM Watch List: Änderungen in einem gewünschten Gebiet verfolgen (ohne die

[Talk-de] Bug in osmhv.openstreetmap.de (was: Re: Wie ÜberblicküberÄnderungen behalten?)

2011-11-28 Per discussione Manuel Reimer
André Riedel riedel.andre at gmail.com writes: 2. OSM History Viewer: Darstellung der Änderungen eines Changesets http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/index.jsp Nettes Tool. Bei einem Changeset habe ich eine sehr hilfreiche Karte generiert bekommen. Beim zweiten bekomme ich nun nur java.lang.Error:

[Talk-de] api06.dev.openstreetmap.org und oauth

2011-11-28 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
hi, weiss jemand, ob auf den dev-server oauth funktioniert? ich kann mir auf jeden fall keine oauth-authentifizierung dahin anlegen. gruss walter werd später auch mal auf der dev-liste nachfragen, wenn hier keiner weiterweiss. - Wenn du den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht siehst, fälle die

Re: [Talk-de] highway=pedestrian und area=yes im Multipolygon und Routing

2011-11-28 Per discussione Chris66
Am 26.11.2011 10:50, schrieb Chris66: Bugreport an ORS und Cloudmade unterwegs. Beide haben sich gemeldet mit der Ankündigung eine Lösung zu entwickeln. Im Prinzip ist die Lösung trivial: if relation=multipolygon und highway-Tag is set then vererbe das highway-Tag (und access-Tags) zu den

Re: [Talk-de] [bulk]: Re: [bulk]: Re: Datum Lizenzumstellung bekannt

2011-11-28 Per discussione Wolfgang Barth
Am 11.11.2011 12:49, schrieb Jo: Es ist nicht sehr schwierig der licensechange plugin in JOSM zu installieren. Er funkzioniert wie der validation die jedes mal Probleme andeutet beim hogladen. Mit dem Plugin finde ich kaum Lizenzprobleme, aber Potlatch mit seiner neuen Option findet eine

[Talk-de] Adresse Außerhalb

2011-11-28 Per discussione Dampfklon
Hi, ich wollte mal Nachfragen wie ihr Adressen nach dem Schema Außerhalb Ort Nummer eintragt. Ich hatte mir gedacht mach könnte Außerhalb Nummer als Hausname angeben, da dies ehr zutrifft als Außerhalb als Straße und Nummer als Hausnummer, oder? ___

Re: [Talk-de] Adresse Außerhalb

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 28. November 2011 20:12 schrieb Dampfklon o...@dampfklon.de: Hi, ich wollte mal Nachfragen wie ihr Adressen nach dem Schema Außerhalb Ort Nummer eintragt. Ich hatte mir gedacht mach könnte Außerhalb Nummer als Hausname angeben, da dies ehr zutrifft als Außerhalb als Straße und Nummer als

Re: [Talk-de] [bulk]: Re: [bulk]: Re: Datum Lizenzumstellung bekannt

2011-11-28 Per discussione Jo
Diese Seite muss noch auf Deutsch übersetzt werden: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping#JOSM Diese Seite ist original auf Deutsch, sie ist aber noch nicht fertig, glaube ich: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:User:Tirkon/ODbL-License:_How_to_avoid_Trash_Mapping Jo 2011/11/28

[Talk-de] Josm: Filterregeln abspeichern?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Hallo, wenn ich mir für spezielle Anwendungsfälle Filtersätze gebaut habe, wie speichere ich diese ab? (Vermutlich übersehe ich etwas, aber http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Dialog/Filter hat mir leider nicht weitergeholfen.) -jha- ___

Re: [Talk-de] Adresse Außerhalb

2011-11-28 Per discussione Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am 28.11.2011 20:12, schrieb Dampfklon: ich wollte mal Nachfragen wie ihr Adressen nach dem Schema Außerhalb Ort Nummer eintragt. Ich hatte mir gedacht mach könnte Außerhalb Nummer als Hausname angeben, da dies ehr zutrifft als Außerhalb als Straße und Nummer als Hausnummer, oder? Du

Re: [Talk-it] slippymap con tracce gpx su un sito web

2011-11-28 Per discussione sabas88
Significa che non puoi usare tracce provenienti da altri siti (usando url assoluti) per una questione di Cross-Site Scripting presumo. Ti consiglio altresì di rinominare la traccia in txt, il gpx viene bloccato dai browser. Se ti interessa, avevo scritto una piccola libreria per semplificare le

Re: [Talk-it] osmit2012

2011-11-28 Per discussione Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 27 novembre 2011 20:35, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: È con grande piacere informarvi che abbiamo una sede per il prossimo OSMit2012. La novità più grande è che si terrà insieme al GFOSSDAY; sicuramente ad alcuni questa scelta potrebbe non piacere, per il prossimo

Re: [Talk-it] osmit2012

2011-11-28 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 27 novembre 2011 20:35, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: È con grande piacere informarvi che abbiamo una sede per il prossimo OSMit2012. La novità più grande è che si terrà insieme al GFOSSDAY; sicuramente ad alcuni questa scelta potrebbe non piacere, per il prossimo anno

Re: [Talk-it] osmit2012

2011-11-28 Per discussione Simone Cortesi
2011/11/28 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Il 27 novembre 2011 20:35, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: È con grande piacere informarvi che abbiamo una sede per il prossimo OSMit2012. La novità più grande è che si terrà insieme al GFOSSDAY; sicuramente ad alcuni questa

Re: [Talk-it] osmit2012

2011-11-28 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 28 novembre 2011 10:05, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: Luca, per quale periodo dell'anno è previsto? seconda metà di novembre -- -S -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Stand OSM a qualche fiera

2011-11-28 Per discussione Volker Schmidt
Ottima idea, avremo potuto farlo già all'ExpoBici 2011 (http://www.expobici.it/) a Padova allo stand della FIAB (amici della bicicletta) - non ci avevo pensato. Avevamo un panello su OSM e un computer in rete, con video/proiettore e anche spazio. E tanta gente che si fermava per parlare di GPS e

Re: [Talk-it] osmit2012

2011-11-28 Per discussione Edoardo Marascalchi
Visto tutti gli sforzi fatti per coinvolgere i gifossari, secondo me la combinazione GFOSSDay e di OSMIT è perfetto. Dal mio punto di vista, potremmo cominciare a definire una procedura per definire la location di OSMIT a partire dal 2013. Magari si può organizzare una meeting nazionale senza che

Re: [Talk-it] osmit2012

2011-11-28 Per discussione Maurizio Napolitano
Magari si può organizzare una meeting nazionale senza che sia una conferenza, un mega mapping party nazionale. Edoardo mmm ... spiegami ... Vuoi cercare di fare una cosa come il linuxday? Ossia: il giorno X cerchiamo di organizzare un mapping party in tutta Italia? Una cosa che abbiamo

[Talk-it] R: Stand OSM a qualche fiera

2011-11-28 Per discussione Alech OSM
Da Firenze potrei suggerire Terra Futura http://www.terrafutura.info/ Terra Futura vuole far conoscere e promuovere tutte le iniziative che già sperimentano e utilizzano modelli di relazioni e reti sociali, di governo, di consumo, produzione, finanza, commercio sostenibili: pratiche che, se

Re: [Talk-it] slippymap con tracce gpx su un sito web

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/28 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: Significa che non puoi usare tracce provenienti da altri siti (usando url assoluti) per una questione di Cross-Site Scripting presumo. se questo è il problema si può risolvere con uno proxy-script sul tuo server. ciao, Martin

Re: [Talk-it] Stand OSM a qualche fiera

2011-11-28 Per discussione Maurizio Napolitano
Adesso devi aprire una pagina wiki :) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] osmit2012

2011-11-28 Per discussione Edoardo Marascalchi
Io pensavo solo ad un mappin party, una cosa in grande tipo mappiamo l'etna o un qualsiasi paese assolutamente non mappato. Potrebbe essere una bella occasione per conoscerci senza star a far tanti discorsi e presentazioni, una cosa molto conviviale. D'altra parte io sono a 4000km dall'Italia e

Re: [Talk-it] Layer dati di trasporto su OSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Maurizio
2011/11/26 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com Lo avevo visto tempo fa da cyclemap.org. le linee compaiono anche prima che su opnv-karte ;) Sicuramente è ottimo avere un layer sullo strumento principale di visualizzazione, peccato che è limitato a metro e bus. Almeno, a Torino non sono visualizzate le

Re: [Talk-it] Layer dati di trasporto su OSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 28 novembre 2011 12:47, Maurizio maurizio.dani...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2011/11/26 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com Lo avevo visto tempo fa da cyclemap.org. le linee compaiono anche prima che su opnv-karte ;) Sicuramente è ottimo avere un layer sullo strumento principale di

[Talk-it] Edifici Emilia Romagna

2011-11-28 Per discussione albertobon...@libero.it
Salve a tutti. Tempo fa in lista si era parlato della possibilità di utilizzare i dati resi disponibili dalla regione Emilia Romagna riguardanti l' edificato. C' era un problema di conversione dati e di poterli utilizzare non con un import massiccio ma inserendoli a poco a poco in modo

Re: [Talk-it] Layer dati di trasporto su OSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Maurizio
Il giorno 28 novembre 2011 12:57, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.comha scritto: Almeno, a Torino non sono visualizzate le linee tramviarie e ferroviarie. ??? Le linee ferroviarie sono visibili anche a zoom bassi, e il tram pure... almeno, a Milano è così. No. Si vedono i binari

Re: [Talk-it] Layer dati di trasporto su OSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/28 Maurizio maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: Esempio: [1] Corso Toscana, Via Val della torre e Via Pianezza incrociano tutte Corso Lombardia. Tutte le fermate agli angoli si chiamano Lombardia e lui le raggruppa, anche se non hanno molto a che spartire e sono a diversi isolati di distanza.

[Talk-it] OSM History renderer

2011-11-28 Per discussione Maurizio Napolitano
Qui la demo http://mazdermind.github.com/osm-history-renderer/karlsruhe.html Qui il codice https://github.com/MaZderMind/osm-history-renderer -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] OSM History renderer

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
grazie Napo, mi sembra molto interessante... ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] OSM History renderer

2011-11-28 Per discussione Simone Saviolo
2011/11/28 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com grazie Napo, mi sembra molto interessante... Anche a me! Mi viene solo una curiosità... ...come è stata mappata Karlsruhe?! ciao, Martin Ciao, Simone ___ Talk-it mailing list

[Talk-it] Ma, e le gallerie autostradali ?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Alech OSM
Buondì . Ma i percorsi delle autostrade sono stati importati grazie a qualche dato fornito da un ente ? E senza inserire però gallerie e viadotti , lasciando queste aggiunte alla buona volontà dei mappatori ? La settimana scorsa ho notato che non c’è la galleria del San Donato –la prima dopo

Re: [Talk-it] Layer dati di trasporto su OSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Maurizio
Il giorno 28 novembre 2011 14:47, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Cmq. per il caso specifico (diretto ai gestori del tp torinese) al mio parere personale chiamare tante fermate con lo stesso nome non mi sembra una buona idea ;-) Nemmeno a me, ma in realtà ogni

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici Emilia Romagna

2011-11-28 Per discussione albertobon...@libero.it
Il 28/11/2011 14.58, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: Cosa ne pensi? Il ricalco può essere utile ma è laborioso, meglio che ricalcare dal PCN ma forse non tanto Direi che il TMS lo mettiamo in piedi lo stesso come verifica Un sistema sarebbe di potersi scaricare i files OSM con gli

Re: [Talk-it] Ma, e le gallerie autostradali ?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/28 Alech OSM alech.hos...@gmail.com: Ma i percorsi delle autostrade sono stati importati grazie a qualche dato fornito da un ente ? credo di no. Le autostrade si inseriscono abbastanza presto, pensa anche ai stranieri che vanno in vacanza, ecc. E senza inserire però gallerie e

Re: [Talk-it] Ma, e le gallerie autostradali ?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 03:25:56PM +0100, Alech OSM wrote: La settimana scorsa ho notato che non c’è la galleria del San Donato –la prima dopo Firenze verso sud- Sono certo che le gallerie c'erano tutte. Anzi, guardando il rendering Mapnik e Osmarender si vede che è successo qualcosa di

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici Emilia Romagna

2011-11-28 Per discussione albertobon...@libero.it
Il 28/11/2011 15.48, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: Scusa cosa intendi creo il file OSM per sottrazione Faccio la differenza fra gli edifici già presenti in OSM e quelli presenti nel file del RER Penso che non coincideranno mai esattamente, saranno sempre un po' diversi per dimensioni e

Re: [Talk-it] Layer dati di trasporto su OSM

2011-11-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/28 Maurizio maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: Cmq. per il caso specifico (diretto ai gestori del tp torinese) al mio parere personale chiamare tante fermate con lo stesso nome non mi sembra una buona idea ;-) Nemmeno a me, ma in realtà ogni fermata ha un ref univoco ed è identificata da

[Talk-it] R: Ma, e le gallerie autostradali ?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Alech OSM
Appena posso … ^^ Dato per scontato il tag [tunnel=yes] , c’è forse qualche indirizzo da dove è consentito informarsi su nome esatto e lunghezza della galleria ? -Messaggio originale- Da: Niccolo Rigacci [mailto:o...@rigacci.org] Inviato: lunedì 28 novembre 2011 16.01 A:

Re: [Talk-it] R: Ma, e le gallerie autostradali ?

2011-11-28 Per discussione Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:31:01PM +0100, Alech OSM wrote: Appena posso … ^^ Dato per scontato il tag [tunnel=yes] , Il tag c'è, ma Mapnik non lo renderizza. C'è anche il tag alt_name=Galleria del Melarancio, ma non sono sicuro che quello sia il nome della nuova galleria. Di sicuro è il

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