Steve Coast announced a tool for this a while back, called MagicShop
FrontDoor at http://frontdoor.cloudapp.net/
Steve just told me in an email that he lost interest in working on it, so it's
back to us to do it ourselves.
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Even in Map Roulette, there are some places where I could have taken a larger
chunk, a single area with 5 connectivity errors is just as easy to fix; I
just got one such roulette spin, and wasn't sure if I should fix the others
or not, because there's no way to mark them fixed.
Fix them
What would be saved by dropping the nameless intermittent streams assuming
they were simplified?
I expect this really varies by location. In my area (Washington County, Oregon)
these streams were quite useless. Most of them were just plain gone, replaced
by farm fields or suburban housing
* The poll needs to be more fine-grained than this.
I nearly always feel that yes/no questions aren't worth a whole lot, without
clearly defined boundaries and definitions.
What does membership mean for a corporation? Are the membership dues for an
entire corporation the same as for an
The crux of the problem is the answer to the question: Which is more
important, outside/official classifications, or physical characteristics?
The tagging pages on the wiki don't really provide clarity on this
matter.
Although the wiki may not be very clear, this subject has been discussed
On Oct 15, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be better if you spent your time mapping?
Hah! Good one! I love hearing everyone's you should do OSM like I do dictums.
Always entertaining.
Oh, be sure to tell us how to quantify and measure good for OSM, so
On 9/29/2012 2:18 PM, Alan wrote:
Anyone else have problems with recent versions of these no longer working for
them?
Um, sorry, false alarm. After completely clearing out my SD card, and
making sure there were no left over recycle bin or hidden files, I tried
it all again and it worked.
On 9/29/2012 2:18 PM, Alan wrote:
Anyone else have problems with recent versions of these no longer working for
them?
Um, sorry, false alarm. After completely clearing out my SD card, and
making sure there were no left over recycle bin or hidden files, I tried
it all again and it worked.
On Sun, 2012-09-30 at 21:09 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
Could folks that are having trouble try some single
tiles or a set generated directly from Lambertus's site?
OK, I tried directly from Lambertus's site.
I tried the pre-defined state of Oregon from
On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
Of these 17.9
million are version=1. 62.2% of cadastre building ways are never touched
again by any mapper.
So what? That still doesn't tell you anything. We've already heard
descriptions of the process including edits and
On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:10 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know we do not at all tag
owners of objects in OSM.
By we, do you mean your local community or all OSM users? If all users, then
as far as I know, we tag anything we find useful in OSM.
Oh, see also:
Another suggestion: motorways and trunks without lanes=number tags
- Alan
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On Sat, 2012-09-29 at 17:48 -0400, Richard Welty wrote:
my Nuvi is relatively new (about 2 years old). how old is the firmware
on your Nuvi?
Mine is rather old. Not sure about the date, but probably at least 5
years old. It just says Nuvi 200, software version 5.00, GPS SW
Version 2.20b.
about
applying it to the TIGER tiles to fix the grey
Toby
On Sep 21, 2012 1:23 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote:
Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I
thought I would share it.
I've been using Remap-a-tron to fix up US roads. I use both
Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I
thought I would share it.
I've been using Remap-a-tron to fix up US roads. I use both the Bing
imagery and the TIGER 2012 tiles overlaid, and it makes it really
useful.
However, I've been frustrated that I can pretty far in
Here is a neighborhood that could be imported from TIGER 2012:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.29183lon=-95.4831zoom=17
Thanks
- Alan
If most of it really is missing then it might be a good candidate to
re-import from new TIGER data as I have done in some other hard hit
areas of LA. It
Quite a few hours later, I'm still seeing the 403 errors on those two paths.
I've cleared browser cache and reloaded, with no improvment :-(
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /remappingservice/count
on this server.
Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server
Yes, that fixed it. Thanks!
- Alan
From: Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org
To: Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com
Cc: Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] The Remap-A-Tron, Second Wave
Mweh. I suck
On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
I had someone respond to my license change email saying that they had
agreed to the new license and had checked the PD checkbox so that
their edits wouldn't be a concern in any future license change. Of
course with the new CT that wouldn't be a
On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
Southwest Town Center Loop West comes to mind as a great example of just
plain brain damaged street naming Wilsonville tends to have.
You know, I should find out if I can see Mt Hood when driving east on Southwest
North Dakota Street :-)
-
On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
If you don't like it, you can always find a different country to armchair-map
That's a little harsh.
Where do you live now? New Jersey? Florida? Portland? L.A.? I can't keep
track, but you sure get around to read a lot of signage.
On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:03 AM, John Smith wrote:
Seems pretty simple to me, importance is going to be partially
subjective, even if 2 airports have similar number of flights, some
will have 747s 380s and some won't.
highway=* classifications seems at least partially subjective as well.
I
On May 1, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another
reason to hate imports.
Yeah... Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another
reason to hate newbies, too.
If you are looking for a reason to hate something,
On May 1, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
I think that is different in a significant way. It is much easier to
fix a newbie than to fix an import.
Not if you start your conversation with them with I hate newbies. That was
my real point.
- Alan
I've been checking some of the imported data and my general feel is that it is
overdigitized. I don't know if medium versus high reflects just the quality
or
the amount of digitization. That would be something to check. One could also
just run some sort of simplification algorithm on all
On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
This is now complete for the area west of Portland Oregon as a test.
http://www.paulnorman.ca/blog/?attachment_id=96 shows the difference.
Nice improvement! I like it.
About 99.8% of the data was untouched since it was imported. I checked the
I've spotted the consensus. Stop your bickering. Either come to an
agreement about this tagging, or ignore each other, but absolutely
stop picking on each other.
You and Frederick seem to be the only ones with that view who
contributed to this thread.
As Ian said, the rest of us just
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote:
Hmm... there will be a concentration of points near drivers'
homes... but then again, also near every place they stop as well. Is this
something to worry about?
If you felt protective about it, you could make a list of
Not an official port, no, but there's this:
http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/
I don't know about PPC, but I just got it working on Mac OSX 10.4
Tiger on Intel.
I installed soylatte, set the PATH and JAVA_HOME variables, and was
able to run it. You need to open X11 first and
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 01:40 -0400, David ``Smith'' wrote:
Maybe we should use signed_name=* or name:signed=* to store
exactly what's on the sign, preserving abbreviation and prefixes where
present?
I found N. Temple, No Temple, and North Temple on city street signs all
within a few blocks.
If you want more than one push-pin marker, you can use
open.mapquest.co.uk, which uses OSM map data. Use the MyMaps
function, which allows you to create multiple maps each with multiple
markers. I haven't used it a lot, but I tried it once and it worked
fine for me.
- Alan
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 13:57 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
My main goal was to separate out the directional prefix because, which
while important for mailing, did not really belong as part of the street
name. I thought I would take care of the suffix as well.
You may think it doesn't really
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 13:15 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
I vote for
3) It's there for good reason. If you want abbreviations, tell your map
renderer to garble the data for you. Pre-garbling the data complicates
other usage scenarios. Don't do it.
+1
Call me an abbreviation police if you
How about this proposal for US streets:
(1) Leave name unabbreviated
(2) Put whatever form you want of abbreviated name in name:en
Thoughts?
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On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 22:35 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
For those voting +1 have you even read my original proposal on the reason I
want to abbreviate?
Yes. You gave a list of reasons it would be OK, and rules people would
have to follow to make it work. Some of the reasons I consider
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Stefan Brandle sbran...@cse.taylor.eduwrote:
I suspect that reading all available documentation might be a good
start. :-)
It might, but it also might get you bogged down too. Two years into this
myself, I'm still uncovering corners of all available that
As I manually survey various features (POIs, some hydro, etc.), I
usually try to merge in the data from existing imports so as to
maintain the link (e.g. gnis:feature_id) back to the original
database, in case we want to exchange updates with them again.
this is impossible due to the
On Jul 29, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Anthony wrote:
In any case, I disagree that it's better to leave information you know
to be wrong in rather than deleting it. Perhaps that's our
fundamental disagreement.
For my part in the conversation, I *agree* with you that people
should delete (or fix when
object to
additional tagging for it.
You know, I think people are more in agreement on the whole subject than
it appears from these discussions. The emails look like a lot of
disagreements, but perhaps it is more wording than actual disagreement on
the ideas and substance.
- Alan
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Does anybody have sources for license-compatible WMS servers in
Oklahoma? All I am aware of is the USGS data, which is very out of date
to the point of inaccuracy around Tulsa and OKC.
I've found the USGS choices confusing on how to find the right thing,
until recently. This page appears
.
This seems like an excellent project for a small OSM-savvy professional
firm, or Cloudmade, or similar. Maybe AOL wants to start a patch.com branch
in Minneapolis along with an open mapquest project.
- Alan
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# Process double-quotes
if [ $# -lt 2 ]; then
echo Usage: $0 a.osm b.osm ... \ new.osm 2
exit
fi
echo ?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?
echo osm version='0.6' generator='$0'
FileNumber=0
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do
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cat
resorts with their own airstrips. But if you know the
area, and know there is a golf course there and no airstrip, by all means
feel free to fix the map and delete the obsolete airport item.
Thanks for keeping an eye out for this stuff.
- Alan
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the LWG
has been going through peoples legitimate and illegitimate concerns for
two
years I think it's been now. We've had lawyers checking everything at
every
step of the way.
I personally just want to say thank you to the license working group for
taking on the thankless job of
Perhaps I'm not a typical mapper, but I don't find the existence of
bulk
imported local data to have been particular inhibiting in my
activity level.
I don't believe there is any one thing as a typical mapper. But I
certainly agree with you myself, and so do many others, as witnessed
by
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 06:07 +, talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org
wrote:
Heh, I didn't even know we had Oregon data available.
We didn't at the time. I checked. Metro had (still has) restrictive
licensing, and the state did not have any clearing house at the time.
- Alan
no one is interested to cleanup crap after a bad import.
I am.
tiger import was great from technical
point of view but didn't allow to build a community from scratch.
I didn't want to build anything from scratch. I'm simply not that
motivated to go out and wander everywhere mapping
A reason to do better categorizations would be to ease conversion to
mobile
(or online) routeplanners, which already have some sort of
categorization
in
amenities.
Please give examples here.
Are you sure there is just ONE way to categorize and that not
every second application(not just
However in reality it is a staggered junction.
So I need to split the North-South way into two pieces and it intersects
the East-West way in two places.
Depending on how far off the stagger is, you also may want to consider not
splitting it, but just aligning the streets with two extra nodes.
In this Mapping Features documentation page, it says add only
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:aeroway aeroway=runway tag to
the
way to denote it
a runway
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Drunway
Does anybody have an alternative solution?. I think adding new relation
All that runway 'way' XML contains is one tag
that says it's a runway. The problem is there is no easy way to
correlate a runway to its airport.
This is a generalized problem that reaches far beyond just runways. For
any given way (of any kind), how do you associate it or characterize it as
I have been playing around with the TIGER 2008 data, which, for some of
the counties around Atlanta seems to be much better than the old data.
If I import it for some of the counties, though, I would like to import
the addresses in a format that would be usable for routing software.
The most
I'd also be very happy if JOSM flipped the tag for me when I edit a
tiger object. It seems reasonable enough that if I'm editing something
that we can consider it reviewed. I certainly don't want to have to go
flip it manually every time I go fixing some minor road details.
Good idea. (I
Karl Newman wrote:
I want the same thing, and I looked into doing this with GPSBabel, too, and
while it has the capability to filter points inside or outside a radius (or
polygon, etc.), that function does not work on trackpoints, and the author
had said something to the effect of it doesn't
There's a copy tags feature in JOSM that doesn't seem to work. That's
about the only way I know of right now.
Pasting tags from node to way did not work for me, as recently as just a
few weeks ago. However, I tried it just now on the current version 1515
and it worked.
If there are tags on
if you can put the list of features along with the corrisponding OSM
tag to a wiki page, this would be helpful :)
(then i can help match features cross-check to what i have)
Unfortunately, in the case of my import for USGS Geonames items, they
don't have specific feature categories. I'm
if you can put the list of features along with the corrisponding OSM
tag to a wiki page, this would be helpful :)
(then i can help match features cross-check to what i have)
Unfortunately, in the case of my import for USGS Geonames items, they
don't have specific feature categories. I'm
One wonders what could be motivating the
County to continue this very expensive resistance to complying with
the PRA.
preach audience=choir
Probably because Santa Clara is Silicon Valley, where a great amount of
the local economy has been based on intellectual property law and issues.
does the census bureau publish any sort of a diff, or delta dataset?
i'd think that just in terms of raw crunching that having just the
differences from year to year would save a lot of work, both manual
and CPU-cycles.
Not that I've seen. What they do publish is the TLID and TZID numbers in
Does anyone with knowledge of the script have time to fix things in
Austin?
Yes, I will take care of it. Thanks for finding it.
Well, that was interesting. There were about 200 braided streets in
Austin that I found and fixed. They must really like the center island
type of street. Let me
In the US at least, I didn't think works paid for by the government could
have a restrictive copyright claim placed on them.
In the US we have several levels of governments. Works created by the
nation-wide federal government cannot be copyrighted. However, that does
not apply to state,
Alternatively, should we try to get the captions merged onto the default
tiles for these zoom levels?
The wiki instructions for lowzoom processing say not to upload the
captionless tiles for layers 9, 10 and 11. So the captionless layers for
9-11 are a bigger mess than layer 12. Should the
With current JOSM versions, you can already hide or gray out certain
features by putting proper styles in the mappaint style file.
I need to do that in the US to make it easier to see the status of the
tiger:reviewed flag. Thanks for the reminder of that feature.
- Alan
I found a fix for some of the island rendering problems,
where the island is split across two z12 tiles. One tile
looks correct, but the other tile is inverted: it looks like
a land area with half a lake when it should look like a water
area with half an island.
If the island is tagged with
Is there any other way to change the tile index?
There are several
tiles that are marked as sea but are clearly inland in
Myanmar which I'd
like to get fixed.
AFAIK, they used to just add the tile to a waiting
list of tiles to
check the wateryness of by hand.
I haven't seen a waiting
Personally I'd prefer access=permit, though maybe that's just me
trying to keep osm uk centric.
There is also the risk of confusing this with access=permissive.
I agree; access=permit sounds to me like access is permitted or allowed.
How about:
access=permit_required
or something
Also, the lake as *loads* of piers for recreational boating, and people
who mapped the lake outline have included these piers in the outline.
Wouldnt it make much more sense to map them as separate features, to
keep the lake shoreline simpler and easier to manage? tagging them
manmade=pier
In Oregon, freeway exits have official numbers (Exit 3, Exit 85, etc.)
I've been adding these as names to the motorway_link segments, thinking it
may be useful on the map as well as possible routing uses (Take Highway
217 to Exit 7 to 72nd Ave, etc.)
However, I think the name scheme as given
I have written a perl script which can fix a braided street in US TIGER
data, as described at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/TIGER_fixup
It is a command-line tool which will download and fix the ways, and
produce a file which you can open in JOSM to verify and upload.
You can find it
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 13:42 -0700, Alan Millar wrote:
You can find it at
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/filter/osm-unbraid/osm-unbraid.pl
Please give it a try and let me know how it works out.
This is really cool!
Thanks!
How were you envisioning this being run? Someone
i looked at some examples the last time this came up, and i've
looked today, and i've read that wiki page, but for the life of
me i can't figure out what's wrong with the streets that are
referenced.
Actually, I may have fixed the best examples from that page while I was
developing my script.
I can say from my experience of teaching IT concepts to very smart
people (i.e. until recently I was an IT support manager at a large
uni) that this namespacing stuff is a step too far for most people.
I can say from my experience that, as one of those sort of people, trying
to learn all about
It looks like a lot of useful information can be gleaned from this,
especially county, township, park, and municipality borders.
I'm not sure if, or how, the maps could be used directly without some
sort of PDF overlay method in JOSM, or maybe a highly speciallized PDF
- OSM converter.
I
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