Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

Am 01.06.21 um 21:25 schrieb Jarek Piórkowski: Yes, and some people would like to use this free (Free), computer-readable dataset to find out whether you should take the train from Windsor and Eton Central or Riverside. While other are giving advice on whether it is wise to even try to do this.

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On 01/06/2021 19:37, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: Why bother with OSM at all then? Just look at a Ordnance Survey map and use your sentience to find what you're looking for. OSM is free. OSM is not a database sink. DaveF ___ Talk-transit mailing

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 at 13:34, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:07 -0400, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:38 Dave F via Talk-transit < > > talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > On 01/06/2021 16:11, Christopher Parker wrote: > > > > On 6/1/2021 10:54 AM,

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 14:15 Dave F via Talk-transit < talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > On 01/06/2021 18:07, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:38 Dave F via Talk-transit < > talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> On 01/06/2021 16:11, Christopher Parker wrote: >> >

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 19:16 +0100, Dave F via Talk-transit wrote: > > > On 01/06/2021 18:32, Philip Barnes wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:07 -0400, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:38 Dave F via Talk-transit < > > > talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > On

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On 01/06/2021 18:32, Philip Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:07 -0400, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:38 Dave F via Talk-transit < talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: On 01/06/2021 16:11, Christopher Parker wrote: On 6/1/2021 10:54 AM, Dave F via Talk-transit

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On 01/06/2021 18:07, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:38 Dave F via Talk-transit > wrote: On 01/06/2021 16:11, Christopher Parker wrote: > > On 6/1/2021 10:54 AM, Dave F via Talk-transit wrote: >> What's wrong with

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:07 -0400, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:38 Dave F via Talk-transit < > talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > On 01/06/2021 16:11, Christopher Parker wrote: > > > > > > On 6/1/2021 10:54 AM, Dave F via Talk-transit wrote: > > > > What's wrong with

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

Which is why OSM has route relations. Michael's wanting to add services & timetables to route relations. The data is too transient & time consuming to maintain for OSM. Sort the basics out. Learn to walk before running. DaveF On 01/06/2021 15:59, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: Without route

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

One problem I had when living in the UK was deciding which station to use to travel up to London. Mother who worked as a midwife had been told one station by the nurses at the hospital. Fine except it was a 20 minute drive to get there and the fairly high frequency but stopping tube would get

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On 6/1/2021 10:54 AM, Dave F via Talk-transit wrote: What's wrong with consulting a timetable? To consult a timetable you need to know what station to use. This is currently a problem in open railway map.  You can search the map based on the name of the train station, but not based on

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

Without route relations, OSM shows where you can get on the train/vehicle, but not where you can go On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 10:58 Dave F via Talk-transit < talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > What's wrong with consulting a timetable? > > Maps show you where you can go, timetables tell you when

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

What's wrong with consulting a timetable? Maps show you where you can go, timetables tell you when . DaveF On 01/06/2021 01:18, Michael Tsang wrote: > I think you are missing the point that GB is not a city. > Cities are densly pack and urban transport systems reflect this. In London tube

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

For the last few years I've added/deleted & maintained Britain's railway stations. All National Rail stations (currently 2571) have the Station's 3 digit CRS code (ref:crs=*). This is the public facing code which allows routing developers to link to NR webpages which provide more *accurate*

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

As others have said, this data doesn't really belong in OSM. It's too transient, too complicated to maintain. GB timetables are officially updated every 6 months, but services vary on an ad-hoc basis. This previous year being a good example. How detailed would your system be? Would you adjust

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

This post is slightly spooky as only the other day I told Ed and Marc at opencage to reclaim the box, I can't be bothered anymore. It's been dormant for 12 months.  The bus stuff works certainly as poc. Getting hold of all the UK buses was beyond me, but Ireland and Holland have accessible

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

On Mon, 2021-05-31 at 22:18 +0100, Michael Tsang wrote: > On Monday, 31 May 2021 16:14:47 BST Roger Slevin wrote: > > and one in which I agree with Tony, Mark and Peter in saying that > > public > > transport services and timetables don’t appear to me to have a > > valid place > > in OSM > > We