Eleanor,
I want to clarify some things:
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Eleanor Tutt wrote:
> Paul - If perception of mapping in the US isn't aligning with reality, we
> probably *do* need to do a better job as a chapter board of telling the full
> story.
I believe that the story that the boar
Greg Morgan writes:
> * In my case, TIGER isn't all the that bad.
In some NY counties, TIGER is very good. In other places it is like
Stevie Wonder was in charge of quality control. What I've heard is
that the maps they were digitizing off were of MUCH lower resolution
than we have available now.
Serge - Thanks for the detailed response! I think I do recall seeing your
blog post in the past, but I reread it now and your concerns - especially
"who decides what gets shown on the map" - very much resonate with me.
Paul - If perception of mapping in the US isn't aligning with reality, we
prob
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Eleanor Tutt wrote:
> Side note relevant to this conversation: I would love to hear from mappers
> in the US who are collecting data "on the ground" - either by themselves or
> by organizing mapathons and building community. I can think of quite a few
> examples,
Brad Neuhauser writes:
> So, is the argument here that we should no longer delete features that no
> longer exist, just retag them? Is the argument that we generally should
> delete such features, but railways are a special case where we shouldn't?
Yes, they are, because railroads went continuo
Richard Welty writes:
> [OHM is] a real database, using the OSM software stack. it's live, and you
> can pan around in it and not see much because it's pretty sparse.
The problem, as I see it, is that railroads are a contiguous
whole. Yet some people seem to think that a railroad should be shopp
Frederik Ramm writes:
> isn't "us" who must move our flag to make it (even) easier to swamp us
> with (often low quality) third-party data.
You're blowing smoke in a no-smoking zone, Frederik. Looking at BNSF's
system map (or calling up BNSF's public affairs office) to see what
they call their s
Eleanor,
I don't see a reason not to be public with my reply to you.
I organize mapping parties during the warmer months (have one next
week) and during the colder months, organize indoor mapping events.
The indoor events tend to get less participants than the outdoor ones,
which is surprising.
Hi everyone,
Second warning. Please cool it down. We're all in this project together,
and if we can't keep our conversations on the mailing list civil then we
should step away from the e-mail client and go map.
-Ian
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My god, this is arrogant.
Crap like this is the #1 reason I’m not an OSMF member.
If this is what counts as the “OSM community” – I want no part of it.
d.
On Apr 3, 2015, at 17:53, Paul Norman wrote:
> On 4/3/2015 11:19 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>> Perhaps we, as the U.S. chapter, play a ro
On 4/3/2015 11:19 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
Perhaps we, as the U.S. chapter, play a role in creating or sustaining
these false assumptions?
Yes. To substantiate this, I looked at communications from the US chapter
I looked through the current board term and the previous board term.
In the c
Side note relevant to this conversation: I would love to hear from mappers
in the US who are collecting data "on the ground" - either by themselves or
by organizing mapathons and building community. I can think of quite a few
examples, but I'm interested in hearing more about how and why people
co
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Darrell,
>
> On 04/03/2015 08:39 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote:
> > Ignore the haters, we’re doing fine.
>
> I don't know if that thing about "haters" is just a generic figure of
> speech but if you should indeed believe that I have expressed h
Darrell,
On 04/03/2015 08:39 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote:
> Ignore the haters, we’re doing fine.
I don't know if that thing about "haters" is just a generic figure of
speech but if you should indeed believe that I have expressed hate about
anything, then you are mistaken (and I would feel a bit of
>
> Perhaps we, as the U.S. chapter, play a role in creating or sustaining these
> false assumptions? Do we need to do a better job highlighting really good
> local mapping efforts? I would welcome opinions and ideas.
>
Honestly, no, I don’t think we do. Frederik just isn’t paying attention if
It would be nice if we could have SotM US this June be a venue to dispel
some of the assumptions that seem to exist abroad about the U.S
OpenStreetMap community. Reducing the U.S. community to a bunch of couch
potatoes who are more concerned with mapping remote places and importing
data is not only
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Greg Morgan wrote:
On the ground, meanwhile,
>> you'd tend to find no trespassing signs on railbanked ROWs, no?
In general, no.
Trespassing signs tend to appear on encroachments (where neighbours
are using the railroad right of way without formal permission). But
On 04/03/2015 02:41 AM, stevea wrote:
Erring on the side of "high ground" safety might be
a good place to plant an initial flag, but if it's location is wrong and
> we need to move it to a more accurate place, we must do so.
And Frederik Ramm replied:
Frankly - no. OSM does not depend on t
Hello,
In researching estimates of expenditures of GIS data in the US, I ran
across a report [1] that some of you may find interesting. There's
several bits of insight in there regarding addresses. For example,
there's tables listing expendatures on address data by different federal
(and a fe
On 4/3/2015 8:18 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
I'm really sad that time and time again we have to fight about whether
or not a specific source is permitted to be used in OSM, when we could
just collect the facts ourselves and therefore be completely free of any
legal implications (and also free
On 4/3/15 10:40 AM, Greg Morgan wrote:
>
>
> If you are asking for an opinion, then this is the kind-of thing that
> is a detriment to OSM. Whereas I try to use OpenSeaMap tags where I
> can for the limited features that sea map applies, I won't go out of
> my way to add data to OSH. My main conc
Good morning!
I'm excited to be able to announce the winners of scholarships to State of
the Map US 2015. We had 230+ incredible OpenStreetMap contributors from
across the globe apply for scholarships, and I know the selection committee
had an* incredibly difficult time* narrowing it down to 30 w
Hello!
While I think that (vetted, high quality) imports and armchair mapping have
the ability to improve OSM, especially for things like building footprints
that are hard to survey on the ground without traipsing across private
property, I certainly hope that people do not view the US as *exclusi
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Richard Welty
wrote:
> so one of the things from recent discussion that concerns me are
> perceptions out there about projects parallel to OSM that are designed
> to complement it, specifically OHM. here is an outline of the view from
> OHM, and i'm interesting in
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Minh Nguyen
wrote:
> On 2015-03-31 00:36, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 03/31/2015 08:04 AM, Natfoot wrote:
>>
>>> There is so many situations where to his naked eye on the ground he may
>>> not be able to see it. To a person like myself I can still find
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
> . . .
> It seems to me that in the USA, what people think about OSM is one of
> these two:
>
> (a) A project for hackers and couch potatoes who trawl their county web
> pages and other sources to look for stuff they could "upload" to OSM
>
so one of the things from recent discussion that concerns me are
perceptions out there about projects parallel to OSM that are designed
to complement it, specifically OHM. here is an outline of the view from
OHM, and i'm interesting in understanding why some treat the whole
project so dismissively
Not sure it is necessary to suggest all nonhackers and non humanitarians on
this list are couch potatoes to further the argument.
Osm is a place where imports happen, we have rules to stick to, we want to
have educated discussions about those rules.
I am tired of import bashing as an unproductive
Hi,
On 04/03/2015 02:41 AM, stevea wrote:
> Erring on the side of "high ground" safety might be
> a good place to plant an initial flag, but if it's location is wrong and
> we need to move it to a more accurate place, we must do so.
Frankly - no. OSM does not depend on the inclusion of third part
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