Re: [Talk-us] South Carolina State Highways - primary overload

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/11 Evin Fairchild evindf...@gmail.com I think the reason why things like this happen is because the highway tagging scheme in OSM was modeled off of UK's road-classification system and really isn't compatible with the road-classification system in the US. it is mainly the names that

[Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Will Skora
Hi, At past OSM meetups that I've organized, new mappers have asked me what shop=* tags to use for several chain stores in the USA and I had not found any clear or consistent practices of what tags to use for these stores and even as a relatively experienced mapper, I wasn't sure what tags to

Re: [Talk-us] Call for Locations: 2014 Winter #Editathon!

2013-12-11 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Hi Everyone! Just a reminder that the winter #editathon is just over 5 weeks away, January, 18-19. We're still looking for locations, so feel free to get in touch with me if you have any questions about hosting or planning an in-person #editathon event. Otherwise, go ahead and add your city to

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Russell Deffner
Seems the stores you listed are going to have different tags, example the 'dollar' stores are probably best tagged shop=variety_store, the wiki has a pretty extensive list/description of the shop tags here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop However, I would say that K-Mart, Target, and

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Personally, I tag big box stores like Target, KMart, WalMart etc with shop=department_store, just because that seems like the closest fit that isn't too restrictive (they're much more than a supermarket, to my mind). You can pick an area and run Overpass Turbo and see what you get with different

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Eric Fischer
I don't know if it catches all the chains you are interested in, but Aaron Lidman has been collecting the consensus tag schemes for various business names for presets in iD. I think his current compilation is https://github.com/systemed/iD/blob/master/data/name-suggestions.json Eric On Wed, Dec

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Ian Dees
I get this question a lot during mapping parties -- probably because I suggest these sorts of places as a user's first edit. I wonder if we should add presets to iD for these sorts of places with tons of locations (Starbucks, McDonald's, etc.) so that they show up when searched in the preset list

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Tod Fitch
I'd tagged a Dollar General and a Family Dollar as shop=convenience but based on Russ's comment decided to change them to variety_store. After I did that, I wondered what the predominate tagging was. First cut was to use taginfo to find all the objects with a name of 'Dollar General' (295 at this

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Aaron Lidman
Hey guys, I‘ve tried to solve a mostly related problem in iD last month. I just blogged about it here: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/common-names-in-id/ You can try it out in iD here: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/master Just add geometry, and search for a really common name, like K-Mart,

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/11 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Personally, I tag big box stores like Target, KMart, WalMart etc with shop=department_store, just because that seems like the closest fit that isn't too restrictive (they're much more than a supermarket, to my mind). a supermarket can sell

Re: [Talk-us] A new tracing layer for TIGER 2013

2013-12-11 Thread Kam, Kristen -(p)
Eric, I think that could work. I think as long as the stroke color isn't similar to the existing set of colors used to render ways in JOSM. Maybe purple or something. Just a thought. Best, Kristen --- OSM Profile -- http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/KristenK From: enf1234567...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/11/13 2:38 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: Martin, I agree with a lot of what you're saying about department stores, but not with what you're calling supermarket. I think the wikipedia entry for supermarkets is good, so will suggest you read that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarket

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Paul Johnson
We should create a general store type value, because Walmart, Supertarget, etc are basically following the Fred Meyer model and Fred Meyer never really stopped calling itself a genderal store until the Kroger merger. Note, I'm only talking about the full-scale Fred Meyer locations (which tend to

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Mike N
On 12/11/2013 10:49 AM, Will Skora wrote: I know there's taginfo (including one for the US! taginfo.openstreetmap.us) but unfortunately, it doesn't let you find out what tag combinations are being used with a name=* (For example, finding what tag is used most often with name=Dollar-General).

[Talk-us] State of the Map US 2014 April 12 and 13 in Washington DC

2013-12-11 Thread Alex Barth
Hello everyone - The OpenStreetMap US team is happy to announce that the State of the Map US 2014 will take place in Washington DC on April 12 and 13. I'm excited about this location as it is a great place to showcase the growing adoption of OpenStreetMap among individual mappers, in government,

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, Mike N wrote: Just an opinion about the superstore that includes a full sized supermarket and full sized non-food department store: it almost merits its own tag, or at least 2 nodes to clearly show the 2 store classes. But then one could also argue to include the in-store

Re: [Talk-us] State of the Map US 2014 April 12 and 13 in Washington DC

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/11/13 3:22 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Hello everyone - The OpenStreetMap US team is happy to announce that the State of the Map US 2014 will take place in Washington DC on April 12 and 13. glad to see it come back to the east coast, as this is a good location for me (i can drive instead of

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/12/11 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Personally, I tag big box stores like Target, KMart, WalMart etc with shop=department_store, just because that seems like the closest fit that isn't too restrictive (they're much more

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Bartell
Richard Welty on 2013-12-11: On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, Mike N wrote: Just an opinion about the superstore that includes a full sized supermarket and full sized non-food department store: it almost merits its own tag, or at least 2 nodes to clearly show the 2 store classes. But then one could

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 11/dic/2013 um 21:26 schrieb Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: a walmart super center consists of a walmart discount department store, a walmart supermarket, and a suite of the various in store services. i think you need a separate node because - citizen's bank, pizza hut, nathan's

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/11/13 4:16 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: are these different from a shopping mall? Maybe that's a new class like shop=super_center (or is this a brand?) or superstore or ... Or maybe an attribute to supermarket? shop=super_center would make some sense. basically, they're an even bigger

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Welty
on a tangential but related matter, do we have tagging for the club type shopping venues (e.g. Costco, Sam's Club, B.J.'s Wholesale Club, etc). they are discount department stores of a particularly stripped down nature, but with an annual membership fee. maybe a subtag about membership, perhaps

Re: [Talk-us] Call for Locations: 2014 Winter #Editathon!

2013-12-11 Thread Mikel Maron
I don't know about you all in DC, but for me, it's been way too long since I've been outside mapping. Expect there's lots of folks in DC who have only been exposed to tracing. Sure, January is probably not the ideal time to do this, but would love to think about where it might work.   * Mikel

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Ian, I had a working list of this stuff, partially built from Paul Norman's list and partially built from Wikipedia. If you tell me a place and a format, I can convert it to that. - Serge On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I get this question a lot during

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 73, Issue 28

2013-12-11 Thread Will Skora
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