Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I don't see a problem with access=private as this could be handy for micromapping a property. access=public should probably be access=yes. The tagging proposal to date imagined only the shared dump stations of the

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Please consider participating in the wiki voting for: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station These sites have various names including dump station, dump point, caravan dump station,

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: A caravan site might have 200 private hookups. We don't want the hookups to be rendered at the same level as the central dump station. Backyard

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: A caravan site might have 200 private hookups. We don't want the hookups to be rendered at the same level as the central dump station. Backyard dump stations should render even less prominently, if they are even mapped

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: As a tagged property of a mapped place (e.g. campground, store, fuel station), without a specific position. Probably not as this is almost certainly too vague. There are already hundreds of those, mostly in New

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: As a tagged property of a mapped place (e.g. campground, store, fuel station), without a specific position. Probably not as this is almost

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Richard Weait
My initial reaction to any automated edit is to break out in a rash. Can we use that image to promote mapping best practices? :-) Goal: A new local mapper in each BadHamlet Method: 1) Create an overlay that displays the hamlets as ugly, rash-like spots. It could even be a rash that allows

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
Are there any rendering packages that can be set to render private objects for only a preset list of operator tag values? So, if an association of recreational vehicle owners has waste disposal stations only for registered users, a map generated by that association could show dump stations open

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:18 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: In some cases, these hamlets may be separate legal entities, even though surrounded by the city. For example, Davidson County, Tennessee, and the city of Nashville merged in 1963 into a shared Metropolitan

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
In some cases, these hamlets may be separate legal entities, even though surrounded by the city. For example, Davidson County, Tennessee, and the city of Nashville merged in 1963 into a shared Metropolitan government. However, six smaller municipalities within the county chose to keep partial

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:07 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Are there any rendering packages that can be set to render private objects for only a preset list of operator tag values? So, if an association of recreational vehicle owners has waste disposal stations only for

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: What do people think about how to properly retag place=hamlet in US urban areas? My colleague Eliane rendered out a map of all hamlets in urban areas in the US: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/samely/diary/34541 I just

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: A caravan site might have 200 private hookups. We don't want the

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Tod Fitch
On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote: Brand new anonymous users come to the map every day and are confused by what these hamlets are. proof: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/163246 I kind of doubt

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryan Housel
Brand new anonymous users come to the map every day and are confused by what these hamlets are. proof: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/163246 https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/163246 I kind of doubt this person is going to stick around and improve the map. To them, it just looks like

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote: Brand new anonymous users come to the map every day and are confused by what these hamlets are. proof: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/163246 I kind of doubt this person is going to stick around and improve the map.

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread stevea
Outreach is awesome. Mechanical edits have their (rather limited, imho) place, but outreach is awesome. SteveA California ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
I will have to look into the details to say for sure. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. On March 17, 2015 4:29:34 PM Paul Johnson

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: My initial reaction to any automated edit is to break out in a rash. Can we use that image to promote mapping best practices? :-) Goal: A new local mapper in each BadHamlet Here's what I did with bike repair stations:

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:07 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Are there any rendering packages that can be set to render private objects for only a preset list of operator tag values? So, if an association of recreational vehicle owners has waste disposal stations only for

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I'm in favor of a bulk edit for US hamlets within city boundaries to be retagged as place=neighbourhood I generally agree with this, as a first step. Especially if there's a followup challenge of some sort to improve the