Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-25 Thread Ian Dees
Hi everyone on this thread. It seems conversation has gotten way off topic and heated, so I put a moderation hold on the list and won't let this thread through for 24 hours or so. Thanks, Ian talk-us moderator ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:49 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > (this comment is only regardinbg the "lanes" part of the thread) > > Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:30:15 -0500 >> From: Paul Johnson >> To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list >> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Wh

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-25 Thread Volker Schmidt
(this comment is only regardinbg the "lanes" part of the thread) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:30:15 -0500 > From: Paul Johnson > To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations > > > > Can we finally fix

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:55 AM Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 10:45 2020-09-23, Paul Johnson đã viết: > > Can we finally fix two other longstanding problems, then? > > > > 1. The wiki being incorrect about not counting bicycle lanes. That's > > not reflective of how validators deal with lanes,

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-24 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 6:04 AM Minh Nguyen wrote: > More recently, Kevin Kenny reimplemented the shield renderer using a > more robust approach [3] and has discussed route relation support with > the openstreetmap-carto developers. [4] > > OSMUS is interested in offering an Americentric renderer

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào lúc 15:56 2020-09-23, Andy Townsend đã viết: I'm actually surprised that someone associated with the OSM US community hasn't created a proof-of-concept "good US road route rendering" variant of the OSM Carto style on a live server that people can use for reference (I'm guessing ongoing

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào lúc 10:45 2020-09-23, Paul Johnson đã viết: Can we finally fix two other longstanding problems, then? 1. The wiki being incorrect about not counting bicycle lanes.  That's not reflective of how validators deal with lanes, how data consumers like Osmand or Magic Earth deal with lanes, or

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Sep 23, 2020, 23:37 by stevea...@softworkers.com: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Can we finally fix two other longstanding problems, then? >> >> 1. The wiki being incorrect about not counting bicycle lanes. That's not >> reflective of how validators deal with lanes, how data consumers like

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Sep 24, 2020, 01:00 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Townsend <> ajt1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37PM stevea <>>> >>> stevea...@softworkers.com>>> >

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:22 PM Andy Townsend wrote: > On 24/09/2020 00:00, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Townsend wrote: > >> >> On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea wrote: >> >>> Paul Johnson wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/09/2020 00:00, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Townsend > wrote: On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com>> wrote: Paul Johnson

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Townsend wrote: > > On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: >> > > 2. Tagging route information on ways. It's about a decade too long at >> this point for ref=* on a way to be

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea > wrote: Paul Johnson mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>> wrote: > 2. Tagging route information on ways.  It's about a decade too long at this point for ref=* on a way

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread stevea
Of course, I'm not pointing fingers or placing blame on any person / human in particular. We agree: a bit of cleaning some rust off of the toolchain. Change management. Does that happen on this channel? That's OK: no need to answer that. SteveA

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Can we finally fix two other longstanding problems, then? > > > > 1. The wiki being incorrect about not counting bicycle lanes. That's > not reflective of how validators deal with lanes, how data consumers like > Osmand or

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread stevea
Paul Johnson wrote: > Can we finally fix two other longstanding problems, then? > > 1. The wiki being incorrect about not counting bicycle lanes. That's not > reflective of how validators deal with lanes, how data consumers like Osmand > or Magic Earth deal with lanes, or how ground truth

[Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:34 AM stevea wrote: > > Exactly. My rule of thumb is if you're thinking about putting a name on > it, and it's not a shopping center, apartment complex or similar large but > contiguous landuse, then landuse=* probably isn't what your polygon should > be. > > At least