Re: [Tango-L] Marketing Survey

2011-02-03 Thread Sandhill Crane
--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gordon Erlebacher gerlebac...@fsu.edu wrote: What constitutes elitism? Well, having watched various forms of snobbery in action, I think that the root cause of it is the intensity of tango, when it works. From what I can tell, once people get a feeling for what tango can

Re: [Tango-L] Truth in stereotypes

2011-02-03 Thread Susan Munoz
I've been on Tango-L for years and have learned so much from almost all of you.  I stopped actively participating (contributing) years ago because -- for me -- and that's all I can speak to, I found many of the responses unnecessarily harsh and it felt personal.  I offer the thought that 

[Tango-L] looking for a milonga

2011-02-03 Thread Charles Roques
Anyone know of a milonga Beso Gaucho? by Fancisco Lauro. There is sheet music for it but I haven't found any recordings. Thanks Charles ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] How to attract more male dancers

2011-02-03 Thread Eero Olli
Olivier asked how can one attract more male dancers on the dance I believe that each decent follower in the community should consciously adopt a beginner leader for mentoring. This requires spending a tanda or two with them every week and perhaps a little time in a practica regularly giving

[Tango-L] women leading

2011-02-03 Thread HBBOOGIE1
Sherri said; Constantly you ask a question about leading and then you ignore what women have to say about leading, what are you looking for? Take lots of private lessons, take lots of classes, and talk to women to learn what you need to do to make it better sherrie Sherri I'm sure

Re: [Tango-L] marketing survey

2011-02-03 Thread Jay Rabe
Getting more men in tango IMO is a numbers game. Yes, there are a lot of things that can be done to keep them once they're there, but most of those things require a group effort and sometimes a change of mindset, things that are difficult to implement. I suggest a more immediately productive

[Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
There is another problem with elitism that hasnt been discussed yet, and that is typecasting. I have had the following experience in NYC, but it may be universal. Lets say some nights I'm feeling in a better mood than others, feeling genenrous, I want to spread good tango karma, give back

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Gordon Erlebacher
Why not dance with the better dancers for the first 40 min, then ask the newbies? By that time, your abilities will have been noticed. But surely, your scenario is only true in a venue where you do not know anybody. If you have a clique, they would dance with you, even after your newbie dance?

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
re: Gordon's question: because the better dancers are already dancing and the newbies are sitting, ready, willing, and somewhat able. NYC has the benefit of being a major tourist city, so we get many visiting dancers, who only know the local teachers and DJ's that are in the festival circuit, and

[Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Charles Roques
I want to spread good tango karma, give back something to this dance that has enriched my life. I see a newbie not being asked to dance. I ask her to dance. We do the best we can, nothing flashy, just a simple dance. But now better followers, especially those who are visiting from out of town

Re: [Tango-L] Truth in stereotypes

2011-02-03 Thread Jay Rabe
Indeed Susan. Tango-L is well-known if not notorious for a history of flames and personal attacks, though it seems to me it's been better in the last couple of years. But there is something unique about the online communication medium that I think facilitates asocial communication behavior. I

Re: [Tango-L] looking for a milonga

2011-02-03 Thread tango
hi Charles and list, please check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM1cnVNDD1k saludos Patricia Muller www.kidojo.it Anyone know of a milonga Beso Gaucho? by Fancisco Lauro. There is sheet music for it but I haven't found any recordings. Thanks Charles

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Jack Dylan
Martin, It sounds like we followed the same route in our tango. Whenever I get back fom BsAs, the first thing people say is Let's see your new stuff. Well, I'm sorry but there is no 'new stuff'. In BsAs I take a lot of privates with my milonguera teacher and we work on the basics. If anything,

[Tango-L] ELITISM

2011-02-03 Thread Mario
 I liked Jack's post a lot. I hope to join him in that same pilgramage someday soon.   It was the word 'cliques' however that inspired me to post. I recently went to two milongas, one in Mex. city and one in Queretaro Mex.  The BIG simularity of the two dances was that everyone danced with

[Tango-L] Tango and tai chi push hands

2011-02-03 Thread Jim Gillette
There is another 2 person activity that is interactive, starts with guided movements or choreography and evolves to an intuitive, shared, moving experience. It is tai chi push hands. Most practitioners of the tai chi form don't move on to push hands in the US. Many more do in China. I do

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Siamak Tazari
Hi, I have recently joined this list and I am a male dancer in my late twenties, dancing tango for about a year now. Elitism is exactly the word that really strikes me when I read many of the posts on this list - even when it is the subject being discussed. Quite honestly, it is somewhat