Hello Vilius,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:05:37, you wrote:
And where is the totally new user interface?
We wanted to add the new interface for version 4.0 but in 2007 we refrained
from this idea, you can search for the archives for the messages dated February
2008.
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Best regards,
Maxim
Mmm
the archives going since june only
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/mail14.html
but this article is still published on your Web site
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2305
maybe you have to delete it, it seems as a broken promises...
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Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in Monday morning, Mackley wrote something like this:
but this article is still published on your Web site
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2305
maybe you have to delete it, it seems as a broken promises..
Hello Mackley,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:33:34, you wrote:
the archives going since june only
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/mail14.html
Here is one at Gmane: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.mail.the-bat.user
but this article is still published on your Web site
Hello Max,
-
Hello Tbbeta,
The Bat! 4.1.1.3 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4113.rar
What's new in 4.1.1.3 since 4.1.1.2:
[-] Fixed another serious UTF-7 encoding bug in IMAP folder names
which
Hello all,
Not sure at this time if this is all new in this latest version, I will
revert to some previous betas later to verify. It is the first time I
have noticed.
1.- Connection Centre is shown in Task Bar even though CC (window) is
closed and, obviously, not shown is Task Manager. I have
Title: Re: 4.1.1.3: Two issues with Task Bar and Task Manager
Hello MAU,
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 at 13:23:19 [GMT +0100] (which was 13:23 where I live) you wrote:
1.- Connection Centre is shown in Task Bar even though CC (window) is
closed and, obviously, not shown is Task Manager. I have seen
Hello Maxim,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:11:15 AM, you wrote:
We wanted to add the new interface for version 4.0 but in 2007 we
refrained
from this idea, you can search for the archives for the messages
dated
February 2008.
I remember an e-mail that informed us that v4 had
Hello MAU,
Not sure at this time if this is all new in this latest version, I will
revert to some previous betas later to verify. It is the first time I
have noticed.
2.- The Bat! is not (never) shown in Applications tab of Task manager.
I have tried a few older alphas and betas and this
Hello Alain,
Fully confirmed.
About Connection Centre also?
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.1.3 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
Current beta is 4.1.1.3 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA'
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
But enough is enough!
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have
Hello Vilius,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 16:55:59, you wrote:
Anyway, do you still planning to rewrite IMAP support or was it also
canceled?
We plan to rewrite it.
--
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutinmailto:m...@ritlabs.com
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
But enough is enough!
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs
The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar
What's new in 4.1.1.4 since 4.1.1.3:
[-] (#0007393) (Beta) Switching between template formats were causing losing
automatic spell checking
[-] Common Quick templates were not available from
Hello George,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 14:17:12, you wrote:
Are you going to introduce it at some point or not? (Don't get me wrong, I'm
perfectly happy with the existing interface however TB tends to be
intimidating for newcomers...)
No, we don't plan to introduce it.
--
Best regards,
Maxim
Hello Christian,
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x?? And since the
functionality / design / usage / etc. is still 3.x - this is
ridiculous to call this version 4.x - just because you need
Ok, up and running !
--
Mackley
Current beta is 4.1.1.3 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello MAU,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 6:23:19 AM, you wrote:
M 1.- Connection Centre is shown in Task Bar even though CC (window) is
M closed and, obviously, not shown is Task Manager. I have seen this
M happen twice so far.
Have not seen it yet.
M 2.- The Bat! is not (never) shown in
Hi Maxim,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:16:28 AM, you wrote:
Hello Vilius,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 16:55:59, you wrote:
Anyway, do you still planning to rewrite IMAP support or was it also
canceled?
We plan to rewrite it.
Good. It is workable now but is not as reliable in my experience
Hi MAU,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:02:41 AM, you wrote:
Hello Christian,
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x?? And since the
functionality / design / usage / etc. is still 3.x - this is
Hi Maxim,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:26:26 AM, you wrote:
The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar
[snip]
Up and running, with the usual caveats that I don't use some of the
advanced features.
--
Take Care,
Bob
Title: Re: Download URL manager appears when adding smiley into HTML template
Hello Marek,
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 at 01:41:56 [GMT +0100] (which was 01:41 where I live) you wrote:
I have opened folder template and switched to HTML template. When I
inserted table and smiley to it, Download
Hi MAU,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:02:41 AM, you wrote:
Hello Christian,
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x?? And since the
functionality / design / usage / etc. is still 3.x - this is
Hello Maxim,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 4:26:26 PM, you wrote:
MM The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar
I'm using it.
--
Best Wishes,
Mark
using The Bat! Version 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) with
Ok, i'm new to this mailing list, so I missed the internal messagge
about the new interface drop.
But outside the beta mailing list, I think they still expect a new
interface for 4.1 release !
I think there would be a delusion with your existent customer, but is
only IMOH... ;-)
--
Mackley
Hello Tbbeta,
since several version (maybe the 4.0.34.21 version) the size and
position of the windows (folder list, message list, message preview)
are not remembered between sessions.
It happens only on my Windows XP SP3 computer, and not the Vista SP1
one.
- is this problem encountered on
Hello Stuart,
M 2.- The Bat! is not (never) shown in Applications tab of Task manager.
Confirmed.
You may want to add a note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7367
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.0.39.39 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack
Hello Maxim,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:26:26 PM, you wrote:
The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar
What's new in 4.1.1.4 since 4.1.1.3:
[-] (#0007393) (Beta) Switching between template formats were causing losing
Hello Maxim,
The Bat! 4.1.1.3 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4113.rar
Uprunning.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.1.3 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
Hello Maxim,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:11:15 AM, you wrote:
We wanted to add the new interface for version 4.0 but in 2007 we refrained
from this idea, you can search for the archives for the messages dated
February 2008.
I remember an e-mail that informed us that v4 had already the new
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Christian Grams wrote:
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
But enough is enough!
Why the HELL do you guys think i
Up and running
--
Mackley
Italy
Current beta is 4.1.1.3 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar
running OK here.
What's new in 4.1.1.4 since 4.1.1.3:
[-] (#0007393) (Beta) Switching between template formats were causing
Hello all.
For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading
through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2
seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top. This
seems to have gotten better in the last version of TB (only doing it
once)
Hi Jim,
It seems to happen more in emails that have a lot of graphics. Could
TB be re-loading the page as new graphics are loaded causing this? It
is really a pain to try to read an email when it keeps going back to
the top.
Has anyone else seen this?
Yes. That happens until all graphics
Hello all.
For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading
through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2
seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top. This
seems to have gotten better in the last version of TB (only doing it
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Jim Nafus wrote:
For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading
through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2
seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top. This
seems to have gotten better in
Hi Jim,
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, at 12:50:38 [GMT -0500] (which was 18:50 where I live)
you wrote about: 'viewing HTML email glitch'
For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading
through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2
seconds, TB will
Hello Bob,
I agree that Christian went a bit overboard in his frustration, and I
had questions about the upgrade myself (considering that I renewed my
license in 21 November 2007, thinking it would be valid into version
4.1, and it wasn't - although that was clarified in the February 2008
Guten Tag MAU,
am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 um 19:46 schrieben Sie:
Hello Bob,
I agree that Christian went a bit overboard in his frustration, and I
had questions about the upgrade myself (considering that I renewed my
license in 21 November 2007, thinking it would be valid into version
Sveiki,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 7:36:30 PM, you wrote:
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Christian Grams wrote:
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
Hi MAU,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:46:42 AM, you wrote:
Hello Bob,
[snip]
One can 'ventilate' disagreement (even strong disagreement) and
frustration with a little more respect for people working very very hard
to earn an honest living. Don't you think so?
If one is extremely
Hello Miles,
MC This version still convert .tbi file to .tbn silently, WITHOUT any query,
is it
MC by design??
Yes, this is by design. You've been asked once. Basically, it's not a
good idea to downgrade from a version that is using new message base
index format, you'd better use full backup
[Reply to: »Bob Riley« · 2008-12-15 · 17:26 h (CET)]
Moin, Bob!
The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar
[snip]
Up and running, …
… and of course registered.
Cheers!
VA
- --
Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will
Hello Christian,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 5:09:24 PM, you wrote:
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
But enough is enough!
Why the HELL do you guys think
Hello Bob,
If one is extremely self-controlled and thoughtful, including having
good genes and good parenting and a regular spiritual life, having
relatively low life stress, and/or having a fundamentally holistic
view of people, yes.
All those fancy words and phrasing just to say grown up?
Hello Vilius,
But I think he was referring to that nothing changed in those 4 years.
That's not true. Splash screen has changed a few times. ;-)
He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still buggy and not supported.
,- [ From the License Agreement (that document no one ever reads) ]
|
|
Hello Christian,
One can 'ventilate' disagreement (even strong disagreement) and
frustration with a little more respect for people working very very hard
to earn an honest living. Don't you think so?
Of course you can, but you can also show respect to paying customers.
Please see my
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed
in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed
and some changed glyphs. He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still
buggy and not supported.
Hi MAU,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 1:34:45 PM, you wrote:
[snip]
But I think a less parent-like response on your part ...
Given my age you'd probably better say grandpa-like.
Careful! I am 66 and can remember when the French surrendered at
Sedan, near the Meuse River, much to the delight of
You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed
in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed
and some changed glyphs. He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still
buggy and not supported. At the same time he don't want to pay for bug
fixes that
Sveiki,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:48:27 PM, you wrote:
He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still buggy and not supported.
,- [ From the License Agreement (that document no one ever reads) ]
|
..
`-
BTW, quite similar wording to License Agreements of many other software I
Sveiki,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:53:55 PM, you wrote:
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed
in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed
and some changed glyphs. He
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
4.0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix for
4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
--
Bye
Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz
Using the best The Bat!
Sveiki,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:10:17 PM, you wrote:
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
4.0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix for
4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
Well, legally RitLabs maybe right. But in any business you should
pay respect to clients, e.g. supporting old version and fixing
critical bugs at least for some time after next major version is
released. Or change
[Reply to: »Vilius Šumskas« · 2008-12-15 · 22:14 h (CET)]
Moin, Vilius!
4.0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix
for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no butfixes further.
Are there any known
On Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:50:38 AM, Jim Nafus wrote:
For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading
through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2
seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top.
Has anyone else seen this?
am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 um 16:26 schrieb Maxim Masiutin:
The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available
Up + Running - Unregistered 28 Days left
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg
The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA)
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Ian A. White wrote:
I checked my accounts records and now realise that it has been a while
since the last upgrade, and if memory serves me right, we (on the beta
list) got a free key for 4.0.x.
all keys for 3.x works in all versions 4.0.x for all users
Hello Stefan,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 3:54:45 AM, you wrote:
Yes, this is by design. You've been asked once. Basically, it's not a
good idea to downgrade from a version that is using new message base
index format, you'd better use full backup every time you change version.
I see. But
Hi Ian,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 5:17:57 PM, you wrote:
[snip]
I have no objection to paying, that's why I wanted to know which of
the options on the upgrade page I should use, and the message on this
list with 4.1.1 should have had something about this as well. Anyhow,
everyone on the
Hello,
it is possible to Include template file, but if user wants to include
Quick template, he must know macro and correct QT name, it is not possible
to select Quick template from list like in editor with macro inserted
automatically.
--
Thanks and Bye,
Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 07:19 schrieb Marek Mikus:
it is possible to Include template file, but if user wants to include
Quick template, he must know macro and correct QT name, it is not possible
to select Quick template from list like in editor with macro inserted
automatically.
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