Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread NetVicious
lunes, 14 jun 2010 at 15:42, it seems you wrote: >> Hello all, > Monday, June 14, 2010, Franz Schoeler wrote: > You have no antispam/antivir/macro plugin installed? > no, definitely not. Only use Avira Antir Premium every 3 or 4 weeks; never > found anything... We should need to know how man

Re: 5.0.0.5

2010-06-14 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Maxim, On 6/14/2010 5:46 PM, you wrote, with all good intentions: The Bat! 5.0.0.5 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb5005.rar What's new in 5.0.0.5 since 5.0.0.4: [-] (#0007483) AV on click at added TBK file in Restore window Don't you think i

Re: 5.0.0.5

2010-06-14 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello, Sorry, I have sent this message by mistake, there is no file on the server. -- Maxim mailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUD

5.0.0.5

2010-06-14 Thread Maxim Masiutin
The Bat! 5.0.0.5 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb5005.rar What's new in 5.0.0.5 since 5.0.0.4: [-] (#0007483) AV on click at added TBK file in Restore window Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread MikeD
Hello Ian, Monday, June 14, 2010, 8:29:24 AM, you wrote: IAW> Actually, the only issue for me is not that The Bat! is moving to a IAW> "subscription"model, but that the language used cloaks it in something IAW> else. Well whether it is called 'subscription' pricing or not, does not really bother

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread MikeD
Hello Ian, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:14:38 PM, you wrote: IAW> So I take it that The Bat! is going to move to a subscription model? That is certainly what it sounds like. Now I don't mind that in principal, =but= 1.) what will the subscription cost? 2.) Rit would also need to address the issue

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Franz Schoeler
> On Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:54:33 PM, Franz Schoeler wrote: > will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of > 29 seconds as right now on this computer? I think they may charge extra to diagnose your computer problems.*** > btw: Does anyone like programs that are practi

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:54:33 PM, Franz Schoeler wrote: > will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of > 29 seconds as right now on this computer? I think they may charge extra to diagnose your computer problems. > btw: Does anyone like programs that are practically

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Alto, On 13-06-2010 23:30, you wrote in : > With this proposed system, a user expects "his" bugs to be fixed > inside his term of payment. Up until now, a year's time was about > nothing for the developement of TheBat - see all the bug tracker > entries that have been around since the turn of the

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Gleason
Ian, G'day Dierk, On Monday, June 14, 2010, at 5:13:41 PM, you (Dierk Haasis) wrote: DH> Actually RITLabs, with all shortcomings, already delivers quite well, DH> though mainly under the guise of 'beta'. Actually, the only issue for me is not that The Bat! is moving to a "subscription"mode

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Franz, Monday, June 14, 2010, 3:39:13 PM, you wrote: > I wonder if I should delete The Bat! and re-install it from scratch > as I don't understand why it's become booting so slowly. No, please not delete it. It should run properly as is. I will get back to you later to figure out w

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dierk, On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:21:57 +0200 GMT (14/Jun/10, 14:21 PM +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: >> Or will his current version stop working? DH> You mean as with all other programs sold on a 1-year DH> investment-into-the-future basis? No, I meant with *this* program. I mistakenly assu

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:07:14 +0300 GMT (14/Jun/10, 18:07 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >> So the version the user has when the subscription expires will >> continue to work and he will just not be able to upgrade? Or will his >> current version stop working? MM> The user wi

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim, On 14-06-2010 13:07, you wrote in : >> Seeing how many years are between major versions, and full IMAP support >> having been promised for v2 (that was sometime in the last century), I think >> you will lose most of your customers unless you fix the old bugs and deliver >> on your promises

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Martin Schneider
Hello Marck, Monday, June 14, 2010, 3:02:47 PM, you wrote: > The previous licensing system didn't allow you to upgrade to the > next version on a version number change, however recently you bought > your key. The new system does and *that's the only difference*! What > was the reaction of folks w

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Franz Schoeler
> Hello all, Monday, June 14, 2010, Franz Schoeler wrote: > 27 address book entries/names - not really very many. > Only one account. > Don't run over a network, one provider. > I wonder if I should delete The Bat! and re-install it from scratch as I > don't understand why it's become booting

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Ian! On Monday, June 14, 2010 at 2:29:24 PM you wrote: > Actually, the only issue for me is not that The Bat! is moving to a > "subscription"model, but that the language used cloaks it in something > else. Although I am a non-native speaker of English - German at that! - I tend to give no

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marck! On Monday, June 14, 2010 at 3:02:47 PM you wrote: > This is no different from the previous licensing model. RIT are NOT > moving to a subscription model Let's face it, I was the one describing the new model as a subscription [to service and support as added value to buying the progr

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Dear Ian, @14-Jun-2010, 22:29 +1000 (14-Jun 13:29 here) Ian A. White [IAW] in mid:484593561.20100614222...@wai.com.au said to Dierk: ... IAW> To RITLabs credit, they are not having the software "fail to run" IAW> unless a valid subscription is present, just upgrades. This is no different from t

Re[2]: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, June 14, 2010, Franz Schoeler wrote: > 27 address book entries/names - not really very many. > Only one account. > Don't run over a network, one provider. > I wonder if I should delete The Bat! and re-install it from scratch as I > don't understand why it's become booting so

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Franz Schoeler
> Hello, Franz. You wrote on Monday, June 14, 2010, 2:54:33 AM: > will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of > 29 seconds as right now on this computer? Let us figure why it starts so slowly. How many folders and address book entries do you have, how many plugins, etc..

Re: Did I miss the funeral?

2010-06-14 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Monday, June 14, 2010, 1:15:41 AM, Jay Walker wrote: > Dwight, if that is your fetish, then perhaps you should join the FBI it's my bad typing and seeing what I intended what I typed on proofing. plez insert a NOT in the appropriate spot -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phon

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi Maxim! > You have addressed the important issue. That's why we plan to allow > the users who have purchased The Bat! key for version 4 since February > 7, 2008 (or later) to get updates of version 5 during about a year > without payment. I was surprised that no one raised that question up

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Thomas, Monday, June 14, 2010, 6:12:18 AM, you wrote: > So the version the user has when the subscription expires will > continue to work and he will just not be able to upgrade? Or will his > current version stop working? The user will be unable to upgrade, but the current version w

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello, Franz. You wrote on Monday, June 14, 2010, 2:54:33 AM: > will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of > 29 seconds as right now on this computer? Let us figure why it starts so slowly. How many folders and address book entries do you have, how many plugins, etc.. Do

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Thomas! On Monday, June 14, 2010 at 5:12:18 AM you wrote: > Or will his current version stop working? You mean as with all other programs sold on a 1-year investment-into-the-future basis? > Also kindly advise about tech support the user will receive - TBUDL is > free for all at the momen

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Franz! On Monday, June 14, 2010 at 1:54:33 AM you wrote: > What's happening here? The same cost-intensive upgrade routine as > with some other software manufacturers is planned? Actually RITLabs, with all shortcomings, already delivers quite well, though mainly under the guise of 'beta'. I