Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-10 Thread Clive Taylor
Hello Stuart, Friday, December 9, 2005, 11:18:18 PM, you wrote: I wonder if it has something to do with setting messages to a color group on arrival. I've no idea, I'm afraid. I did a little unscientific experiment a few weeks ago, opening the same IMAP mailbases using TB!, Mulberry and

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-10 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Clive, Saturday, December 10, 2005, 4:39:47 AM, you wrote: I wonder if it has something to do with setting messages to a color group on arrival. CT I've no idea, I'm afraid. I did a little unscientific experiment a CT few weeks ago, opening the same IMAP mailbases using TB!, Mulberry

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-09 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stuart, Friday, December 2, 2005, 7:27:27 AM, you wrote: SC I have a free fastmail account that I use for testing and about the SC only thing I use it for is testing TB! with IMAP. I'm not sure which SC version I was using at the time, either 3.63.05 or .06, but I SC received

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-09 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 9, 2005, 8:27:25 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: Further to this I received the following from Fastmail. --- Re: FastMail.FM account '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' You have now used over 75% of your monthly bandwidth

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-09 Thread Clive Taylor
A quick check shows that I have used 96% of my 40 MB bandwidth for this month and it is not half over yet. This was not a problem before. That's odd. I use my FastMail account for my domain traffic as well as my list subs and I've only used around 15Mb BW for December so far. --

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-09 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Dwight, Friday, December 9, 2005, 9:09:07 AM, you wrote: DAC I just checked and have used 16.5 mb of my fastmail bandwith for DAC December. That is for all my mail, including having fastmail collect DAC all 4 of my pop accounts, some of which get tons of spam due to their DAC long lifespan.

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-09 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Clive, Friday, December 9, 2005, 9:14:57 AM, you wrote: CT That's odd. I use my FastMail account for my domain traffic as well as CT my list subs and I've only used around 15Mb BW for December so far. That's 2 in a row with reasonable bandwidth usage. I wonder if it has something to do

IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello tbbeta, I have a free fastmail account that I use for testing and about the only thing I use it for is testing TB! with IMAP. I'm not sure which version I was using at the time, either 3.63.05 or .06, but I received the following from Fastmail.

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Stuart Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] rašė: Email address/account: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User Bandwidth: 10003053 bytes in one hour The only thing in this account is tbbeta and tbudl. There was about 2000 messages in it at the time and I was not sending anything that would account for this

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Vilius, Friday, December 2, 2005, 8:13:16 AM, you wrote: VS I've reported this a while ago (see VS http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg74834.html), VS but nobody seem to be interested in it. As I'm using my own IMAP server VS I forgot about it. But now, as I'm not alone

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stuart, On 02-12-2005 15:27, you [SC] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: VS I've reported this a while ago (see VS http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg74834.html), VS but nobody seem to be interested in it. I don't have that problem. Also, Curtis gave you a reason for your

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vili
Hello Peter, SC I can not find the archived message, but I hope you are right about SC it being looked into. Remove the trailing ) - a TB! problem. No, it is not a TB problem. It is a user laziness problem... Put a space after the link, and it would work. There must be rules... Next time

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vili, On 02-12-2005 16:40, you [V] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: V No, it is not a TB problem. It is a user laziness problem... Can you give me a valid URL that ends with a )? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.62.12 Pro /thebat

Re[3]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/2/2005 10:57 AM Hi Vili, On 12/2/2005 Vili wrote: V Hello Peter, SC I can not find the archived message, but I hope you are right about SC it being looked into. Remove the trailing ) - a TB! problem. V No, it is not a TB problem. It is a user laziness problem... Put a V space after

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Clive Taylor
Stuart Cuddy wrote: Maybe if it can be tracked down this can help explain why there are so many IMAP problems. Any one else encounter anything like this? I use FastMail with an enhanced account as my main IMAP provider. All my domain and list traffic goes through it and I can't say I've

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vili
Hello Peter, On 02-12-2005 16:40, you [V] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: V No, it is not a TB problem. It is a user laziness problem... Can you give me a valid URL that ends with a )? You just have to ask for it: http://www.thebat.hu/forpeter.html) (the bracket at the end IS a part of

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vili
Hello Peter, V No, it is not a TB problem. It is a user laziness problem... Can you give me a valid URL that ends with a )? I forgot: You just have to ask for it: http://www.thebat.hu/forpeter.html) (the bracket at the end IS a part of the link!!!) You have to scroll down on that page, I

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vilius Sumskas
Stuart, On 02-12-2005 15:27, you [SC] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: VS I've reported this a while ago (see VS http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg74834.html), VS but nobody seem to be interested in it. I don't have that problem. Also, Curtis gave you a reason for your

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 2, 2005, 11:42:20 AM, Vilius Sumskas wrote: Also, Curtis gave you a reason for your high bandwidth usage in http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg74852.html No. It's not the reason. When using Outlook or Mullbery with the same IMAP account I hardly use

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Clive Taylor
When using Outlook or Mullbery with the same IMAP account I hardly use 5mb in 8 hours. I've just done a quick, unscientific test opening the same IMAP account in TB! and Mulberry, both with about the same number of unread messages and reading the port upload and download toals with Port

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Also, Curtis gave you a reason for your high bandwidth usage in http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg74852.html No. It's not the reason. When using Outlook or Mullbery with the same IMAP account I hardly use 5mb in 8 hours. I have 40 folders in my IMAP account, check

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Curtis
Hi Vilius, You wrote: No. It's not the reason. When using Outlook or Mullbery with the same IMAP account I hardly use 5mb in 8 hours. Do you have TB! to do full synchronization's with the server? If so, then those other clients are incapable of doing such a thing. Mulberry interacts

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 2, 2005, 12:17:03 PM, Vilius Šumskas wrote: I have 40 folders in my IMAP account, check regularly 4 POP accounts, and do all my business with TB! which is open pretty much all the time. For the month of November, I used a total of 21.9M of bandwidth. Do you use SSL ? I

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Curtis
Hi Clive, You wrote: It looks as though TB's bandwidth usage is around 3-4 times that of Mulberry. Make of that what you will. I'm not surprised. TB!'s approach is different. When was the last time you had used TB!? When TB! loads, it updates the message index file for all

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Curtis
Hi Curtis, You wrote: Mulberry interacts with the server in a way that is highly inefficient and in a way that Outlook is incapable of as well. Please replace 'inefficient' with 'efficient'! Thanks. ;) -- -= Curtis =- PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name -=-=- (A)bort, (R)etry,

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vilius Šumskas
I have 40 folders in my IMAP account, check regularly 4 POP accounts, and do all my business with TB! which is open pretty much all the time. For the month of November, I used a total of 21.9M of bandwidth. Do you use SSL ? I am using regular authentication (not sure what SSL is but if it

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vilius Sumskas
Do you have TB! to do full synchronization's with the server? If so, then those other clients are incapable of doing such a thing. Mulberry interacts with the server in a way that is highly inefficient and in a way that Outlook is incapable of as well. Yes, I have synchronization every 1

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Curtis
Hi Vilius, You wrote: Yes, I have synchronization every 1 minute. BTW, I have Outlook configured exactly the same way. Syncronize all folder and all messages every 1 minute. The options look the same, but they work differently. If you right click each of TB!'s folders you'll see

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vilius Sumskas
If you right click each of TB!'s folders you'll see that you can vary how you synchronize. Which of those do you use? Does Outlook give you those options? I use Full Syncronization in TB! and Syncronize All Messages in Outlook on every folder. -- Pagarbiai, Vilius Sumskas LNK TV sistemu

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Curtis
Hi Vilius, You wrote: I use Full Syncronization in TB! and Syncronize All Messages in Outlook on every folder. So when you do this with Outlook, can you disconnect from the server at any point and browse all messages in all folders? -- -= Curtis =- PGPKey:

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Clive Taylor
--On 2/12/2005 14:17 -0500 Curtis wrote: When was the last time you had used TB!? I've been using TB and Mulberry together, really - only because I'm too idle to synchronise my address books! So, the answer to your question is that both progs probably have similar cached message information.

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vilius Sumskas
So when you do this with Outlook, can you disconnect from the server at any point and browse all messages in all folders? Of source. I use it like this for 3 years now. -- Pagarbiai, Vilius Sumskas LNK TV sistemu administratorius tel.: +370 614 75713 www.lnk.lt

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vili, On 02-12-2005 18:20, you [V] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: V You just have to ask for it: V http://www.thebat.hu/forpeter.html) Yes but a browser might not interpret .html) as html - unless you make a MIME type - and why would you. V (the bracket at the end IS a part of the link!!!)

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Curtis
Hi Clive, You wrote: I've been using TB and Mulberry together, really - only because I'm too idle to synchronise my address books! So, the answer to your question is that both progs probably have similar cached message information. Even then I'd be cautious comparing the two. They

Re: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Curtis
Hi Vilius, You wrote: Of source. I use it like this for 3 years now. Then there's something pretty inefficient about TB!'s approach to maintaining a full synch status. -- -= Curtis =- PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name -=-=- Artificial intelligence is no match for natural

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Vili
Hello Peter, V You just have to ask for it: V http://www.thebat.hu/forpeter.html) Yes but a browser might not interpret .html) as html - unless you make a MIME type - and why would you. ... V (the bracket at the end IS a part of the link!!!) Yes, but since there was no comma after the

Re[2]: IMAP - Fastmail Overuse

2005-12-02 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Clive, Friday, December 2, 2005, 11:07:55 AM, you wrote: CT I use FastMail with an enhanced account as my main IMAP provider. All my CT domain and list traffic goes through it and I can't say I've ever CT experienced any bandwidth spikes - but there again I don't use TB! CT overmuch these