In reply to :
>> Come on! The title itself is meant to be provocative!
>> "Mailing List Abuse" - where is the so called abuse? It was a
>> PRIVATE EMAIL and nothing to do with the list.
I> I used the word 'abuse' because the person abused
In reply to :
His totally unfounded accusations against
Ritlabs and CIFNet are
RG> Unfounded - he posted the message with the headers
I believe you should be responding to Paul Van Noord. Nevertheless,
posting the headers demonstrates nothing, I believe.
--
Best regards,
Gonc
Saturday, August 25, 2007, 8:02:25 PM, you wrote:
> Hallo Indie_Dev,
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:47:43 -0400GMT (26-8-2007, 1:47, where I live),
> you wrote:
ID>> I used the word 'abuse' because the person abused the purposes of the
> When a thread gets dead horsed, it's closed for everybody.
Sor
Hallo Indie_Dev,
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:47:43 -0400GMT (26-8-2007, 1:47, where I live),
you wrote:
ID> I used the word 'abuse' because the person abused the purposes of the
When a thread gets dead horsed, it's closed for everybody.
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers a
iately, I'm sure. We also don't need to discuss the alleged
GP>> compromising here.
> Come on! The title itself is meant to be provocative!
> "Mailing List Abuse" - where is the so called abuse? It was a PRIVATE
> EMAIL and nothing to do with the list.
I used the wor
Hallo Goncalo,
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:39:25 +0100GMT (26-8-2007, 0:39, where I live),
you wrote:
GF> Thank you for wording my point of view so eloquently.
After a message has been moderatied, it's not done to keep on replying
to that moderator message. Especially not when it's rather off topic.
Hello Goncalo
On Saturday, August 25, 2007 you wrote:
> In reply to
>>> His totally unfounded accusations against
>>> Ritlabs and CIFNet are
Unfounded - he posted the message with the headers
Do you work for RItlabs that you can make such a statement on behalf
of the company?
RG>> How wa
g here.
Come on! The title itself is meant to be provocative!
"Mailing List Abuse" - where is the so called abuse? It was a PRIVATE
EMAIL and nothing to do with the list.
Unlike many others, he disguise himself behind an alias and disrupts
the purpose of the list.
--
Best regards,
Go
In reply to :
>> His totally unfounded accusations against Ritlabs and CIFNet are
>> _very_ serious and should not have been tolerated, under _any_
>> circumstances. It seems obvious to me that what is
RG> How was it determined that they were unfounded? If you have proof
RG> of that t
In reply to :
RG>> Apparently some of you apply that term to someone that disagrees with
RG>> your preconceive notions. I suppose I too qualify as a "troll"
RG>> For the record I do not know "Indie" outside of Ritlabs i.e. we
RG>> are not "buddies"
PVN> I thank you for taking the time to
Paul,
RG>> I had always understood the word "troll" in this context to mean
RG>> someone who not only starts trouble but baits others into it.
RG>> Apparently some of you apply that term to someone that disagrees with
RG>> your preconceive notions. I suppose I too qualify as a "troll"
The point
Hello Paul
On Saturday, August 25, 2007 you wrote:
RG>> to another list or in the forums. Getting
RG>> an off list email by someone
RG>> trying to hide NEEDS to be addressed.
RG>> I had always understood the word "troll" in
RG>> this context to mean
RG>> someone who not only starts trouble but
RG
Paul,
RG>> I had always understood the word "troll" in this context to mean
RG>> someone who not only starts trouble but baits others into it.
RG>> Apparently some of you apply that term to someone that disagrees with
RG>> your preconceive notions. I suppose I too qualify as a "troll"
As time
Hi Rick,
> It is the easy and irresponsible way to deem someone a "troll" then
> conspire to ignore that person.
>
> Indie had genuine concerns although some would have been better posted
> to another list or in the forums. Getting an off list email by someone
> trying to hide NEEDS to be address
8/25/2007 11:51 AM
Hi Rick,
On 8/25/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote:
RG> It is the easy and irresponsible way to deem someone a "troll" then
RG> conspire to ignore that person.
RG> Indie had genuine concerns although some would have been better posted
RG> to another list or in the forums. Getting an
>>Garbage In, Gospel Out.
> And unlike our physical worlds, all we have to deal with here is words on a
> screen. The
> effective way to deal with a troll is to not respond to his postings in any
> way. Of
> course, this does require a certain level of agreement, which can remain
> unspoken o
Goncalo,
>Garbage In, Gospel Out.
Some of us don't have a gospel to out, but it is true that a lot of what comes
in is garbage, and the one thing we have a say in is what comes out.
And unlike our physical worlds, all we have to deal with here is words on a
screen. The effective way to deal
Roelof,
Fate: Protects fools, little children, and echo moderators.
Memories of bygone years when there were such things as Fido, BBS's and echos.
Apparently they are still alive and well in some places.
--
Gleason
Hello,
> I hope a moderator can look into this, but my guess is, probably not.
Please send these kind of messages to moderator. We are not interested
here.
Thank you.
--
Vilius
Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
ht
In reply to :
GF>> Please, gag the man.
RO>
RO> Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
RO> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
RO> instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Goncalo.
RO> )<)))'>
RO> Please do not post me
Hallo Goncalo,
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 07:23:09 +0100GMT (25-8-2007, 8:23, where I live),
you wrote:
GF> Please, gag the man.
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
instigated this reply. Please don't f
In reply to :
>> I love a good witch hunt. At least it will spur some more excitement
>> on the list. Right up to their eventual ban (I hope).
V> As you are a relatively new guy here: it is a THEBAT beta list. If
V> you other problems, it is not the place for that.
Please, gag the man.
Sinc
Hello Indie_Dev,
> I love a good witch hunt. At least it will spur some more excitement
> on the list. Right up to their eventual ban (I hope).
As you are a relatively new guy here: it is a THEBAT beta list. If you
other problems, it is not the place for that.
--
Vili
The Bat 3.99.6 on Windows
Friday, August 24, 2007, 5:41:08 PM, you wrote:
> You missed my point. You *SHOULD* through your weight in cases that expertise
> is required. An opinion from a knowledgeable and experienced persons *DOES*
> matter.
Ah yes, I do see your point, but again, I'd rather just be that unknown
entity t
Hallo Indie_Dev,
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:55:47 -0400GMT (24-8-2007, 18:55 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
ID> I hope a moderator can look into this, but my guess is, probably not.
Next time try that via private mail and not the list. The preferred
address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] so it gets to Marck
Hello,
Friday, August 24, 2007, 10:49:28 PM, you wrote:
I> Jake will be able to trace the IP right to the _desktop_ the email came
I> from. Its what he does for a living. He's very - very - good at it.
If he says it's me (1), you'd better start questioning his competence! :-)
(1) I don't even k
Hello Indie_Dev,
Friday, August 24, 2007, 11:58:00 PM, you wrote:
> Sure, try sharing _those_ thoughts on a mailing list which has a few,
> shall we say, "undesirables" and see how far _that_ gets you.
You won't have something to loose besides your time.
> The point is, I don't flaunt who I am
In reply to :
I> Not sure what that means VB.
I> Sure this person could just be being facetious with his comments
I> and the fact that the IP resolves out of Atlanta, but then why
I> would he not have posted via the list that being the case?
I've sent you one email off-list, so what?
Friday, August 24, 2007, 3:37:20 PM, you wrote:
>> 1. By making a reference to Atlanta, quite possibly knows who I am.
> Check this page:
> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-728392-p-9.html
> It seems, you said it yourself?
Yes, thats me
This is me...
http://myworld.ebay.com/i
Friday, August 24, 2007, 1:21:10 PM, you wrote:
> Hello Indie_Dev,
> Friday, August 24, 2007, 7:55:47 PM, you wrote:
>> 1. By making a reference to Atlanta, quite possibly knows who I am.
>> 2. And they could only have obtained that information from the credit card
>>information I used to p
Friday, August 24, 2007, 3:41:36 PM, you wrote:
>> 1. By making a reference to Atlanta, quite possibly knows who I am.
> I was wrong. That page says South Florida and Atlanta is Georgia. My
> mistake. I dont know where he got that info then. Certainly not from
> RITLABS or CIFNet.
> Vili
I'
Friday, August 24, 2007, 1:18:08 PM, you wrote:
> Hello, Indie_Dev!
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, at 12:55:47 [GMT -0400] (which was 19:55 where I
> live) you wrote:
I>> Received: from SERVER1 ( [68.153.194.5])
I>> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
I>> i13sm4609270wxd.2007.08.24.09.56.14
I>>
Friday, August 24, 2007, 1:16:12 PM, you wrote:
> Hello Indie_Dev
> On Friday, August 24, 2007 you wrote:
>> 3. Is somehow associated with RitLabs or CIFNet as
>> that is the only way to
>>obtain my PRIVATE and PERSONAL information from
>> my purchasing info.
>> Once I figure this all out, I
> 1. By making a reference to Atlanta, quite possibly knows who I am.
Check this page:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-728392-p-9.html
It seems, you said it yourself?
Or he was just smarter than you and know something that we dont know
:))) Or at least smarter than me.
(It wa
> 1. By making a reference to Atlanta, quite possibly knows who I am.
I was wrong. That page says South Florida and Atlanta is Georgia. My
mistake. I dont know where he got that info then. Certainly not from
RITLABS or CIFNet.
Vili
Hello Indie_Dev,
Friday, August 24, 2007, 7:55:47 PM, you wrote:
> 1. By making a reference to Atlanta, quite possibly knows who I am.
> 2. And they could only have obtained that information from the credit card
>information I used to purchase The Bat! as my IP address does not resolve
> to
Hello, Indie_Dev!
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, at 12:55:47 [GMT -0400] (which was 19:55 where I
live) you wrote:
I> Received: from SERVER1 ( [68.153.194.5])
I> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
I> i13sm4609270wxd.2007.08.24.09.56.14
I> (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:56:14
Hello Indie_Dev
On Friday, August 24, 2007 you wrote:
> 3. Is somehow associated with RitLabs or CIFNet as
> that is the only way to
>obtain my PRIVATE and PERSONAL information from
> my purchasing info.
> Once I figure this all out, I will determine what
> course of action to
> take. In the
I hope a moderator can look into this, but my guess is, probably not.
It looks like having put three people in my kill filter, I'm now
getting derogatory emails sent directly to my email, thereby bypassing
the list.
So obviously whoever this person is
1. By making a reference to Atlanta, qui
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