Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Peter, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:33:49 +0200 GMT (06/09/2004, 21:33 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP> But we're not about to vote for water flowing upstream, but if we PP> redirect the river on the left or on the right side of your planned PP> building. Some people say "it's always been

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Thomas, > Now talking about moving. Of course it should *not* be possible to > apply colour groups or flags after moving, it doesn't make sense. Give up Thomas. This is a democracy and if the majority votes that water can flow upstream... ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escoria

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello MaXxX, > Here's the fault in your reasoning. > > The program is: > > Fill your cup with coffee > Now put it in the cupboard > Now put 2 spoons of sugar in your cup > Now stir it > > We have a cup of sweet coffee in the cupboard. Change your program to: Fill your cup with coffe

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Marcus, My previous reply was incomplete. I intended to complete it after lunch but "I moved it to Outbox before parking it"... ;-) Sorry, I don't have the time now and, as I have already said in some other messages, I'm facing a quite busy week. -- Best regards,

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello MaXxX, > Personally, I'd think sub-filters should be made as actions, > themselves. Then the order would REALLY matter where applicable, and > wouldn't matter at all where not applicable. With filters looking > like: > > (filter) IF subject contains "blah" THEN >(action) PARK MESSAGE >

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Boris, The big question is: If the actions in a filter are, and should be, executed in the order they are listed. >>> Answer is: Yes, the should be executed in the order they are listed. >> >> Thanks for replying :) > No problem. You are a great beta-tester, so why not reply? Bec

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Michael Geyer, [MG] wrote: > What are several "MOVE"s in a row supposed to do: move _one_ and only > one message, or create several copies of the original message? Moving the message more than once should move that single message twice. Why one would wish to do this is beyond me, but if he wishes

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hi Allie and list, On Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 10:22:07 GMT -0500 (which was 17:22 where I live) Allie Martin wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of "NFS: Big question for 9Val": > I've been reading this thread and am a convert th

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Marcus Ohlström, [MO] wrote: >>> IF subject contains "blah" { >>>MOVE TO "\junk" >>>MARK AS read >>> } >> If we are talking about Incoming filters, which I think we are assuming >> most of the time, your above filter would end up with the message marked >> as read in the Inbox but not i

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Krzysztof Trybowski, [KT] wrote: > No, nobody is against it. The point is that whole your concept has > in fact nothing to do with execution order. What you propose is to > lose the track of a message when it is moved. This is a limitation. > Executing actions in order has nothing to do with this.

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello MAU, >Start filter execution > Get message from Source folder into _Working area_ > Manipulate message _in_ working area > ... > Copy working area to some folder A > More manipulation allowed > ... > Move working area to destination folder B >

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello MAU, > Much the contrary, it _broadens_ the possibilities of what can be done > with a filter. And I for forgot to add... Without the need of having to concatenate two or more filters (or one filter and several sub-filters), to establish the order of execution of some actions. -- Best re

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 12:11:49 PM, the old mahogany desk trembled gently as MAU began rapidly hitting his squeaky typewriter's keys: > That is exactly my point. To be consistent with what 'move' (which can > be considered equivalent to cut&paste) generally means, I think and > believe t

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Carsten, >> if (message_in_category()) { >>move2folder("CatHot"); >>if (!parentfound()) >> move2folder("CatOlder"); >>} > > if (message_in_category()) { >if (!parentfound()) > copy2folder("CatOlder"); >move2folder("CatHot"); > } Right! :) -- Best rega

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

* Alexander Leschinsky writes: > Hello MAU, >> This is why I would say that *only_one_move_action* should be allowed in >> a filter. I don't see any need for allowing more, the copy action is >> there Agreed. > Well, I can see... Let's explain in pseudo-code (and let's don't speak, > that some c

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Peter, M>> Naaah! What for? It's easier to understand the way it works now. > > LOL... a little while after I sent it I read your phrase 'Enough of this > NFS stuff for a few days I think. :) ' > > Nawww, more Miguel/V3006 msgs up ahead ... hehe What can I say... ;-) -- Best regards, M

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello 9Val, > The answer to both questions is quite simple. Remember old filters. If > you had a filter with destination folder and with 'mark parked' > checked you never had care about when TB! will actually park the > message. It is more natural way - order shouldn't be critical if

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello 9Val, I apologise for my late reply. M>> This is why I would say that *only_one_move_action* should be allowed in M>> a filter. > > It is closer to truth :) and sounds like suggestion, well, will be > done Great! M>> I have actually replied to that I think. There should only be one m

Re: Filters, coffee, and Mary [was Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val]

Hello Allen! On Saturday, September 04, 2004, 7:22 PM, you wrote: MB>> And one for 9Val: :batcoffee: AD> Off topic, but . . . Is there such an emoticon, or is common AD> practice to make them up on the spot, leaving us to use our AD> imaginations between the colons? Yes, there is indeed such an

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

M i c C u l l e n wrote: MicCullen> Yes, yes, this is all very entertaining, these analogies, MicCullen> but what if coffee makes you vomit? Huh? That's covered. Use program 3. ,- [ MAU wrote: ] | Fill your cup with coffee | Now put 2 spoons of sugar in the cup | Stir it | N

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Roelof, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 00:49:47 +0200 GMT (05/09/2004, 05:49 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: M>> Now throw you cup of coffee down the drain M>> Now drink it M>> Did the coffee Mary drunk have any sugar? (*) RO> We might be checking you. ;-) M>> 3.- She couldn't drink

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello 9Val, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 00:22:00 +0300 GMT (05/09/2004, 04:22 +0700 GMT), 9Val wrote: 9> I talked about any other action like parking message. I don't 9> understand why do you think that after moving it has no sence in other 9> operation while message is still accessible? PMFJI.

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

On Sunday, September 5, 2004 @ 6:17:48 AM, MAU wrote: [snips] MAU> 1 - My first program is: MAU> Fill your cup with coffee MAU> Now drink it MAU> Now put 2 spoons of sugar in your cup MAU> Stir it Yes, yes, this is all very entertaining, these analogies, but what if coffee makes

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Boris, >> The way TB! handles park message now is quite simple: >> 1. if message was parked before filter execution, it wouldn't be moved >> 2. if filter has parked message it continue execution like it wasn't >>parked and as result you'll get parked message in destination folder BA>

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello MAU, >> Sure, that other actions are important too, but most effective >> filtering is filtering to other folders. M> Of course they are important. These actions may mean delivering the M> original message but with some "modifications" made to it prior to M> delivering. But I disagree wit

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello MAU, Saturday, September 4, 2004, 16:04 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> The big question is: If the actions in a filter are, and should be, >>> executed in the order they are listed. >> Answer is: Yes, the should be executed in the order they are listed. > > Thanks for replying :)

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello MAU, Saturday, September 4, 2004, 14:30 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Since there can be a lot of copy actions, for which order is >> important. > I think you may be wrong here. If you consider _only_ the copy actions > (i.e. I want to copy a message to folders A, B and C), what d

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Krzysztof, Saturday, September 4, 2004, 18:45 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Anyway, would you think that would be easier to understand for any user? > Of course. I failed to understand the logic in the four variants you > described in your initial post. I believe actions should, n

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Alexander, Saturday, September 4, 2004, 19:32 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Park the message, and then _copy_ it to folder a > Try to _move_ add write additional note log "Message parked, thus - > copied" if move action impossible Can't understand you. Should this happen or does it

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

Hello Krzysztof, Saturday, September 4, 2004, 18:58 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> I haven't tried exactly that yet. But following my logic the copy/move >> _should_ do nothing. Wouldn't that be much easier for everyone to follow >> and understand? > Why should I be forced to flag a mes