Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 23:56:04 -0600 GMT (04/01/2008, 12:56 +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: Because Gmail doesn't send your messages back to you when you send them to a mailing list. You need to use outgoing filters to see your contributions in your list folder. DC That explains

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Henk, On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 08:23:05 +0100 GMT (04/01/2008, 14:23 +0700 GMT), Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: HMdB I added a note because I have some dozen of private HMdB maps/folders, not mailinglists. In which the relevant messages HMdB arrive and theirs answers. I supported this wish first

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:03:19 +0700GMT (3-1-2008, 3:03 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO Ouch! I'd go crazy when all filters were thrown in one group. TF You don't need to do that. snip TF You can still have them seperated, nobody forces you to use them for TF both Incoming and

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, M I'm sure many of us have a number of filters checking on From: in M Incoming filters and on To: in Outgoing, and having a single filter M for Incoming and Outgoing and filtering on From: .OR. To: may not M be exactly the same. A simple example: M I receive email from, and write

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:06:26 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 17:06 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF You can still have them seperated, nobody forces you to use them for TF both Incoming and Outgoing. Tick only one of the boxes, it's that TF easy. RO But that would be self defeating for a

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
think. No, I think Roelof got it right: There would be no seperate Incoming and Outgoing trees. His problem is that he cannot see which filter does what, which is true, as we will have only one kind of filters. If you want, tickmarks could be added like the flags now, showing in the (single) tree

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:10:52 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 18:10 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M - If From: A .OR. To: A, move to folder A. M - If From: B .OR. To: B, move to folder B. M And now assume A writes to B and just CCes me. Where would this message M end up? And where if it is B who

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:08:01 +0700GMT (3-1-2008, 14:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TF If you want to seperate them, you have many choices. Two come to mind: What you're suggesting is that Ritlabs break something that's rather good at the moment and now you're thinking of ways

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:57:48 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 20:57 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF If you want to seperate them, you have many choices. Two come to mind: RO What you're suggesting is that Ritlabs break something that's rather RO good at the moment and now you're thinking

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:01:55 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 21:01 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: If A sends to B, or B sends to A, and they CC to you, both are now covered by Incoming filters. M Of course, but where do the two messages end up? To answer the question M you just have to be as dumb as

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, If A sends to B, or B sends to A, and they CC to you, both are now covered by Incoming filters. Of course, but where do the two messages end up? To answer the question you just have to be as dumb as computers are and do exactly what the code (filter conditions and actions) tell

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, M If the filters are: M - If From: A .OR. To: A, move to folder A. M - If From: B .OR. To: B, move to folder B. M Do they end up in the same folder, yes or no? That depends on the order of your incoming filters, Did you read my first reply to you? You are not getting my

Re[2]: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Cees
Het was donderdag 3 januari 2008 om 15:48 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'One kind of filters' : Hallo MAU, M If the filters are: M - If From: A .OR. To: A, move to folder A. M - If From: B .OR. To: B, move to folder B. M Do they end up in the same folder, yes or no? That depends on the order

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:48:47 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 21:48 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Do they end up in the same folder, yes or no? That depends on the order of your incoming filters, M Did you read my first reply to you? Yes. You are not getting my point: M And quite certainly you

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, January 3, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: You are not getting my point: let me reply again with other reasons against your idea, I am not generally against it, but I am sure, it will limit of usage and whole Filtering system will be unintuitive. Let me describe why.

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Cees, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:54:12 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Cees wrote: M Did you read my first reply to you? You are not getting my point: M And quite certainly you are not getting mine. I give up! :) C I'd say the priority has some influence also. Won't it? Priority of

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, January 3, 2008, 8:07:18 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: BTW my wish would also benefit those who use gmail and its derivates (like thebat.net) on mailing lists. How? From you suggestions, the first thing I see is that one would have to go through and rename all their existing filters

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:09:03 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 22:09 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM let me reply again with other reasons against your idea, I am not MM generally against it, but I am sure, it will limit of usage and MM whole Filtering system will be unintuitive. Let me

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:18:16 -0600 GMT (03/01/2008, 23:18 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: BTW my wish would also benefit those who use gmail and its derivates (like thebat.net) on mailing lists. DAC How? Because Gmail doesn't send your messages back to you when you send them

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, January 3, 2008, 7:33:40 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: BTW my wish would also benefit those who use gmail and its derivates (like thebat.net) on mailing lists. DAC How? Because Gmail doesn't send your messages back to you when you send them to a mailing list. You need to use

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, at 18:38:48 [GMT +0100] (which was 18:38 where I live) Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: Added a note ;-) I added a note because I have some dozen of private maps/folders, not mailinglists. In which the relevant messages arrive and theirs answers. I supported this wish first because

One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello TBBETA, A wish that I would like to bring forward again in these busy times of creating the best The Bat! there ever was: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 -- Cheers, Thomas. Hier trifft man eine Menge Bekannter, die man sein genzes Leben noch nicht gesehen hat. *

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, A wish that I would like to bring forward again in these busy times of creating the best The Bat! there ever was: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 I thought I had added a comment to your wish when you opened it but it looks like I didn't. So, I will make some

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, January 2, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: A wish that I would like to bring forward again in these busy times of creating the best The Bat! there ever was: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 nice idea, but as I think, worse to implement it. 1) If You will have

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, at 20:00:30 [GMT +0700] (which was 14:00 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote: A wish that I would like to bring forward again in these busy times of creating the best The Bat! there ever was: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 Added a note ;-) -- Henk M. de

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas, On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 20:00:30 +0700GMT (2-1-2008, 14:00 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TF A wish that I would like to bring forward again in these busy times of TF creating the best The Bat! there ever was: TF https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 Ouch! I'd go crazy when all

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 01:04:49 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 07:04 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF A wish that I would like to bring forward again in these busy times of TF creating the best The Bat! there ever was: TF https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 RO Ouch! I'd go crazy

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Henk, On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:38:48 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 00:38 +0700 GMT), Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: A wish that I would like to bring forward again in these busy times of creating the best The Bat! there ever was: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 HMdB Added a note ;-)

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:13:24 +0100 GMT (02/01/2008, 23:13 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 MM nice idea, but as I think, worse to implement it. MM 1) If You will have one entry and one filters tree, how You will MM select order of filters

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, January 3, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: In fact, you can work the same way you work now, if you tick only Incoming in one set, and only Outgoing in another. The wish will *allow* you (not force you) to make a filter have both conditions. OK, You will create filter for

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:05:07 +0100 GMT (02/01/2008, 23:05 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M At first sight your suggestion looks as a nice and reasonable one. I M don't know how your system could affect the 'filter engine', that's M for developers to say. I'm talking here only of the GUI side,