Hi Marck,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 8:05:10 PM, Marck wrote:
MDP Hi Neal,
MDP @19-Oct-2003, 19:28 -0800 (20-Oct 04:28 UK time) Neal Laugman said
MDP to Jack:
JM 1. Give us an easier/less time consuming/less dangerous(for
JM klutzes like me) way of doing it.
JM 2. Change it on *their* end.
Hello ETM,
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:16:56 -0400 GMT (20/10/2003, 05:16 +0700 GMT),
ETM wrote:
I thought the latest version of TB! had an option to disable the
X-mailer identification in the headers but I can't find it.
This option is still not there. :-(
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Moderator der
Hello Marck,
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:05:10 +0100 GMT (20/10/2003, 11:05 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
Precisely!!! This practice should be campaigned against, not
encouraged by hiding from it and thus permitting it by default.
For some reason I cannot find an X-Mailer header in your
Hello Marck,
Monday, October 20, 2003, 6:05:10 AM, you wrote:
MDP Yes. By people rejecting ISPs who illegally block sending software.
MDP Make your friends aware of this. Report the ISPs concerned to RIT -
MDP they'll deal with them. This calls for education, not kow-towing to
MDP ignorance.
Hi Thomas,
@20-Oct-2003, 15:27 +0700 (09:27 UK time) Thomas Fernandez said to
Marck:
Precisely!!! This practice should be campaigned against, not
encouraged by hiding from it and thus permitting it by default.
For some reason I cannot find an X-Mailer header in your own
message...
Hello,
Monday, October 20, 2003, 12:28:15 PM, you wrote:
MDP Hi Thomas,
MDP @20-Oct-2003, 15:27 +0700 (09:27 UK time) Thomas Fernandez said to
MDP Marck:
Precisely!!! This practice should be campaigned against, not
encouraged by hiding from it and thus permitting it by default.
For some
10/19/2003, 9:53 PM: Jack said in TheBat! on a blacklist?
JM Maybe the nice folks at Ritlabs! will:
JM 2. Change it on *their* end.
Last night in TBBETA Stefan said:
There will be a new 2.01 build tonight or tomorrow with more fixes for
icons (radio buttons instead of check boxes) and a new
Hello Allen,
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 10:08:54 AM, you wrote
re: TheBat! on a blacklist?:
A There will be a new 2.01 build tonight
I thought 2.01 was already out.
--
Peace!
Wayne Howard
Another world is indeed possible!
www.natcap.org
Hello Plusnet,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 6:10:11 PM, you wrote:
GW
GW Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information:
GW http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
P Hi Gordon, thanks for finding that line i thought i was going mad.
P
10/20/2003, 10:26 AM: Wayne said in TheBat! on a blacklist?
WH Hello Allen,
WH On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 10:08:54 AM, you wrote
WH re: TheBat! on a blacklist?:
A There will be a new 2.01 build tonight
WH I thought 2.01 was already out.
I guess there will be a new-er 2.01 build
Hello Allen,
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 10:46:15 AM, you wrote
re: TheBat! on a blacklist?:
A 10/20/2003, 10:26 AM: Wayne said in TheBat! on a blacklist?
WH Hello Allen,
WH On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 10:08:54 AM, you wrote
WH re: TheBat! on a blacklist?:
A There will be a new 2.01
Hello Wayne,
Monday, October 20, 2003, 9:05:47 AM, you wrote:
WH I'm not sure what you mean. I know what you mean by adding a
WH space, but knows to trim - what do you mean by that? Knows to trim
WH what?
In your template, you need the -- . It appears you have the --,
but are missing the
Monday, October 20, 2003, John Morse wrote:
You need to Hack the X-Mailer line in your copy of the_Bat!
Before you do that, please note that it could be considered reverse
engineering and in conflict with the license agreement.
There was a thread on this on the list back in April, starting
Hello Leif,
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 11:56:31 AM, you wrote
re: TheBat! on a blacklist?:
LG In your template, you need the -- . It appears you have the --,
LG but are missing the trailing space after it. So, when someone replies
LG to your message, the below is left.
Thanks for letting
Monday, October 20, 2003, 9:08:54 AM, you wrote:
10/19/2003, 9:53 PM: Jack said in TheBat! on a blacklist?
JM Maybe the nice folks at Ritlabs! will:
JM 2. Change it on *their* end.
Last night in TBBETA Stefan said:
There will be a new 2.01 build tonight or tomorrow with more fixes
Hello Wayne,
Monday, October 20, 2003, 10:28:27 AM, you wrote:
WH Thanks for letting me know and taking the time to explain it to
WH me! So the -- really does serve a purpose!
Yeppers it does.
You've got it right, it trimmed off all your sig stuff. Thanks.
--
Leif (TB list moderator and
Hi David,
on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:57:29 +0100GMT (20.10.03, 13:57 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
DS sometimes using xray can add to the problems.
Yes, indeed. I cannot send PGP/MIME signed or encrypted messages with
this list account via xray. On other accounts it works
WH I thought 2.01 was already out.
A I guess there will be a new-er 2.01 build -- 2.01.01 or some thing of
A the sort? I just copied/pasted what I read . . .
Will the new build be announced here?
Elaine
Current version is 2.01.3 | Using
10/20/2003, 9:04 PM: ETM said in TheBat! on a blacklist?
WH I thought 2.01 was already out.
A I guess there will be a new-er 2.01 build -- 2.01.01 or some thing of
A the sort? I just copied/pasted what I read . . .
E Will the new build be announced here?
It was, not officially
A It was, not officially, by several people on this
A list . . . in any case:
A http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php
Thank you, done deal, and if Rit is monitoring the list, my
sincere thanks to them as well.
Elaine
On Monday, October 20, 2003 at 11:05:47 AM, Wayne Howard wrote in the
message TheBat! on a blacklist?
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sorry - I'm fairly new to TB.
We all were once!
A Also, ought to add a space after your -- in your sig. delimiter so TB
A knows to trim . . .
I'm not sure what you
Hi TB'rs,
I tried sending a plain-text email with no attachments to me dear 'ol
mum and it was bounced several (4) times. I then sent it from Opera's
M2 and it went through fine. Here is where the url in the failed
header took me:
SORBS:
http://www.dnsbl.us.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?jsIP=
and
NL I tried sending a plain-text email with no attachments
NL to me dear 'ol mum and it was bounced several (4) times.
NL I then sent it from Opera's M2 and it went through fine.
NL Here is where the url in the failed header took me:
TheBat! is blacklisted by more and more servers. I am well
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi The_Bat! Users,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 4:53:06 PM, you wrote:
NL and of course:
NL X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01) Personal
NL The only thing that changed between TB! and M2 was about 2
minutes...
NL and the change in clients.
You need to Hack
Hi The_Bat! Users,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 5:16:56 PM, you wrote:
E it will be necessary to
E leave TB! and use another mail program for most purposes. I
E don't like seeing that happen, but know no other way to
E reach all my subscribers.
see my instructions that I just sent to the list.
If
Hello John,
On Monday, October 20, 2003, 8:36:07 AM, you wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi The_Bat! Users,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 4:53:06 PM, you wrote:
Study the images below, and make the changes exactly like the
pictures show
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi The_Bat! Users,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 6:09:06 PM, you wrote:
GW Many thanks from me too, John. But are there supposed to be two
GW pictures or one; those two lines are the same.
Oh... silly me,
there are supposed to be 2 pics
This is what
Hello ETM,
On 19 October 2003, at 18:16:56 (GMT -0400) you wrote:
E TheBat! is blacklisted by more and more servers.
And what reason of this blocking? As about me I never notice such
problem, all my mails was successfully delivered. If problems were then
that was from my provider
Hello John,
on Sunday, 19. October 2003, at 17:36:07 [GMT -0500] you wrote:
It will say
Ritlabs! (v2.01) Personal
works fine, and X-Ray banned from the system.
--
Ciao
Thomas
Mailer: TheBat! 2.01
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1
PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0xABBB7287
HP:
Hello John,
On Monday, October 20, 2003, 9:14:20 AM, you wrote:
Oh... silly me,
there are supposed to be 2 pics
This is what the original will look like (although line numbers may
be
different as this was version 2)
http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/bat_hack2.gif
And this is what you
Hello Gordon,
Monday, October 20, 2003, 1:01:13 AM, you wrote:
GW Hello John,
GW On Monday, October 20, 2003, 9:14:20 AM, you wrote:
Oh... silly me,
there are supposed to be 2 pics
This is what the original will look like (although line numbers may
be
different as this was version 2)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi The_Bat! Users,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 7:10:11 PM, you wrote:
http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/bat_hack2.gif
And this is what you will change it too
http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/bat_hack.gif
GW Thanks again. In 2.01 it's at
Hi Gordon, thanks for finding that line i thought i was going mad.
And thanks for the tip John.
Now - can you go one step further? What about not using Ritlabs
at all - and what about removing that Educational, Personal,
and Business? My X-Mailer line now looks much more personal! ;)
/
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 3:14:20 PM, John wrote:
JM Oh... silly me,
JM there are supposed to be 2 pics
JM This is what the original will look like (although line numbers may
JM be
JM different as this was version 2)
JM http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/bat_hack2.gif
JM And this is what you
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 6:14:20 PM, you wrote:
This is what the original will look like (although line numbers may
be different as this was version 2)
http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/bat_hack2.gif
And this is what you will change it too
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 4:01:13 PM, Gordon wrote:
GW I haven't hacked a file like that since the days of CP/M and the
GW Kaypro!
That brings back the memories for sure! (most of which I would
probably like to forget)
--
Neal
Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 3
GW Thanks again. In 2.01 it's at line 00488380h I haven't
GW hacked a file like that since the days of CP/M and the
GW Kaypro!
JM I changed the pictures to match the latest version,
JM Here is also a topic on the board about it
JM
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Hi The_Bat! Users,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 8:00:02 PM, you wrote:
JM Question: Does it need to be hacked each time I install a new update?
Your welcome, yes, you will have to do it with each new version.
Maybe I can look into making a patch with
VE And what reason of this blocking?
The accusation is that it is the favored mail program of
spammers.
Elaine
Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi The_Bat! Users,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 7:58:29 PM, you wrote:
NL I wonder if it would be possible for RitLabs! g to find a solution
NL to this dilema without hacking the exe. Thanks much.
That would be very nice if they made this editable...
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 8:39:07 PM, you wrote:
JM Question: Does it need to be hacked each time I install a new update?
Your welcome, yes, you will have to do it with each new version.
Maybe I can look into making a patch with each version that can just
be run to automate the job.
Maybe
Sunday, October 19, 2003 at 6:50 PM (Pacific Time)
Hello John, This is a reply to your message dated
Sunday, October 19, 2003 at 3:36:07 PM, when you wrote:
JM You need to Hack the X-Mailer line in your copy of the_Bat! Here's
JM how: Open thebat.exe in UltraEdit http://www.ultraedit.com/ Study
Hi St,
Now - can you go one step further? What about not using Ritlabs
at all - and what about removing that Educational, Personal,
and Business? My X-Mailer line now looks much more personal! ;)
That's what I've done; I searched for the area in the executable that
has Business,
Sunday, October 19, 2003, 5:53:48 PM, Jack wrote:
JM Maybe the nice folks at Ritlabs! will:
JM 1. Give us an easier/less time consuming/less dangerous(for klutzes
JM like me) way of doing it.
JM 2. Change it on *their* end.
Well, I would think this to be a VERY important issue to deal with.
Hi Neal,
@19-Oct-2003, 19:28 -0800 (20-Oct 04:28 UK time) Neal Laugman said
to Jack:
JM 1. Give us an easier/less time consuming/less dangerous(for
JM klutzes like me) way of doing it.
JM 2. Change it on *their* end.
Well, I would think this to be a VERY important issue to deal
with.
Yes.
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