Re: updates testing report kind of broke

2011-10-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/10/2011 01:30 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> I find that I now ignore this report since it doesn't indicate the >> package name. Too many entries to chase down via clicking thru. Not >> sure of the reason for the change, the old format seems, to me at least, >> better. >> > > I am, of cours

Re: grub conflicts grub2

2011-10-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/10/2011 12:59 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > If we're really talking EFI here it should really be grub2-efi-mkconfi > -o /boot/grub2-efi/grub.cfg and grub2-efi-install (without arguments). > > But grub2-efi is not installed by default. > > Jurgen > > > Hmmm .. is it still buggy? If not i

Re: grub conflicts grub2

2011-10-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/10/2011 01:02 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > What's eventually going to happen is that grub2 will replace grub and > you'll have to write a new config manually. You can beat the rush and do > it now - install grub2, remove grub (you can use yum shell mode to do > this without any complaints

Re: updates testing report kind of broke

2011-10-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/09/2011 11:39 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Or as intended, because the older reports became less readable due to > updates containing N>1 packages. Also see > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-October/103410.html > which sums it up. Says someone else doesn't like the

updates testing report kind of broke

2011-10-09 Thread Genes MailLists
The email now says things like: The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13785 instead of rpm-4.9.1.2-1.fc15 critical path security update I'm assuming this is a bug with the script .. gene -- test mailing l

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/07/2011 03:38 AM, JB wrote: > Eric Blake redhat.com> writes: >> No. cp is not atomic. rename(2) (via mv(1), if both files are on the >> same device) is. Any solution that does not use rename(2) is flawed, >> because an ill-timed power-outage will leave the file in an inconsistent >> s

Re: Sound problems in F16 after the most recent updates

2011-09-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/14/2011 09:02 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 09/14/2011 01:01 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: >> Dne 14.9.2011 09:57, Joachim Backes napsal(a): >>> Having sound problems after the todays updates: Playing some sound stops >>> after 1-2 secs, and the sound control symbol in the gnome-shell title >>> bar

Re: security update process failure

2011-09-06 Thread Genes MailLists
> On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 23:14 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > >> I need guidance. I've installed the F14 libcap from updates-testing. >> I have no idea if it works or how to test it--it doesn't appear to >> "break" anything as far as normal operation of my system. Is that >> good enough to give

Re: F16 slowness

2011-09-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/05/2011 12:06 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > Welp, I reported before when had KDE installed that my system was slow > to respond when opening programs, maneuvering through emails, browsing, > etc... > ... Please run top and see what if any processes are hogging CPU or memory ... -- test mail

Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu

2011-08-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/26/2011 02:42 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > In the long term, yeah, btrfs will have support for everything that > makes LVM (and soft RAID, in fact) interesting. Probably be F18 before > we really stop using LVM and RAID separately from the filesystem by > default, though (that's just a WAG).

Re: F16 Update Kernels fail to boot

2011-08-23 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/23/2011 06:49 PM, Andy Lawrence wrote: > \ > > According to this: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Grub2 > > grub2 is used by default with F16, so I'm gonna guess that's what I'm using! > > I tried this: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, which does give > parameters in /boot/grub

Re: lan network mapping...

2011-07-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/15/2011 10:59 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 07/15/2011 08:50 PM, Rob Healey wrote: >> Greetings: >> >> I would like to explain what I am trying to do, and then see if there is a >> solution to my issue? >> >> I have a wireless print server in my lan, and it has a specific ip address, >> som

Re: [Fedora QA] #202: Create test case for firstboot (graphic and text)

2011-06-23 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/23/2011 04:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 15:50 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >> On 06/23/2011 03:05 PM, Fedora QA wrote: >>> #202: Create test case for firstboot

Re: [Fedora QA] #202: Create test case for firstboot (graphic and text)

2011-06-23 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/23/2011 03:05 PM, Fedora QA wrote: > #202: Create test case for firstboot (graphic and text) > ---+ > Reporter: adamwill | Owner: adamwill > Type: task | Status: new > Priority: majo

Re: Mock/pungi build failure - help please?

2011-06-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/19/2011 03:47 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> I have a fully updated f15 x86_64 system in which I have mock installed. >> >> I set up a mock chroot for building f15 x86_64 which appeared to work >> normally, and then inside the chroot I insta

Re: F15 "services" can't enable nfs or vsftpd

2011-06-08 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/08/2011 02:35 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 06/08/2011 05:36 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> The bug is still outstanding after more than 8 months .. it was briefly >> closed in March 2011 when one reporter could not reproduce it using a >> rawhide ver

Re: F15 "services" can't enable nfs or vsftpd

2011-06-08 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/08/2011 01:15 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 06/08/2011 05:54 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: >> The headline says it all. They have to be started in rc.local > > This is pure nonsence and please provide proper description of your > problem which is needed to properly diag

Re: F15 "services" can't enable nfs or vsftpd

2011-06-08 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/08/2011 11:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: . > > The solution posited in the thread I referenced is not via automount > (one of the posters misreferenced a man page so you need to read the > whole thread). It's simply an option in /etc/fstab. I've tried it and it > works as advertised.

Re: F15 "services" can't enable nfs or vsftpd

2011-06-08 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/08/2011 08:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:53 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >> On 06/08/2011 01:58 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> On 06/08/2011 12:54 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: >>>> The headline says it all.

Re: F15 "services" can't enable nfs or vsftpd

2011-06-08 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/08/2011 01:58 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 06/08/2011 12:54 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: >> The headline says it all. They have to be started in rc.local > > Your headline is very cryptic and is for a stable version of Fedora, > which is best served on the users[1] list.

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/02/2011 09:54 AM, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: > Hey folks, > (1) I think showing the executable name for every application is vital. Whether its directly in menu, popup or alternating pink flashing lights .. :-) The gnome and kde search tools alreadys search for executable names, so only

Re: Gnome 3

2011-06-01 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/01/2011 01:51 AM, Pasha R wrote: > Thanks. > I didn't realize it is still present in fedora. I always liked > xscreensaver responsiveness. With gnome-screensaver, it sometimes > takes few seconds until it swaps in its login dialog, even on quite > modern machine, while xscreensaver always pr

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2011 02:53 PM, Pasha R wrote: > > Generally, screensavers were part of computing experience for a long > time (15 years at least). People developed tons of different > screensavers -- ranging from some chaotic graphics to cartoon > Lots of business computers use screenvertizing to sho

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2011 12:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: ... usefule information not duplicated . > >> I assume the backend NetworkManager daemon is not lacking functionality ? > > Correct. Thanks ... helpful reply .. I was just wondering, vainly it seems, if there might be a temporary work aroun

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2011 11:27 AM, Pasha R wrote: > This Fedora release is simply too useless for me - DSL connection is > just one of many features I lost with this release (actually, it > isn't, I never used NetworkManager before as it never supported > configuration that I want to use). Speaking of netw

Re: gnome login problems...

2011-05-29 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/29/2011 12:31 PM, Tom London wrote: > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Rob Healey wrote: > > An update to shadow-utils (rawhide) changed the minimum UID/GID from > 500 to 1000, so if all your 'normal users' have UIDs less than 1000 > they will not be displayed by the gdm greeter. Grea

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/28/2011 06:42 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > The new connection editor is not finished yet. You can still use the > old one; it's in the applications list as "Network Connections." > > P.S. Please assume that we mean well. Could we start making a habit of naming the executable as well

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-23 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/23/2011 12:35 PM, James Laska wrote: > > I just completed a F-15 DVD install (no online repos enabled) on > baremetal. After installation and boot-up, the network is not enabled > (as expected). When I click the NM icon in GNOME3, and turn 'on' wired > networking, a network connection is

iwlagn page allocation failure on 2.6.38.6-27

2011-05-20 Thread Genes MailLists
I got a bunch of these - this kernel is the F15 2.6.38.6-27 kernel compiled from src rpm on F14 (sorry for wrap). Anywone else seeing any issues with iwlagn ? I thought a bunch of fixes for iwlagn went into 2.6.38.6 ? g/ - /var/log/messages snippet --- May 20 14:10:14 lap1 ke

Re: F15 RC3 at Caddyshack

2011-05-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/15/2011 04:11 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > 1. Setting network params in the install was ignored by the installed Linux. > > 2. It takes a bit of hacking to get the Nvidia driver into a Fedora 15 that > was installed with Noveau. > > Given that the anointed Gnome 3 needs a compe

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/14/2011 01:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Please don't assume malice where none is intended. you deleted the smiley .. it was intended in good humor - one thing I most certainly did not assume (nor say) was malice on anyone's part ... sorry if you took it literally ... with all the

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/13/2011 11:47 PM, Angel wrote: > Go to Activities and then search by the keyword ¨network¨. Now from the > search result click Network Connections. This is the old nm-applet of > Gnome 2. > > If you click the network icon of the panel then Network Settings, that´s > the different thing (dum

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/13/2011 01:55 PM, a...@clueserver.org wrote: > I have to admit, this is the most painful Fedora installation I have ever > done. (And I have used them all.) > ... > > The reason I went to this version when I did was due to a sort of double > bind. Fedora 13 uses 2.6.34. USB3 does not wo

Re: RC2 hangs trying to boot

2011-05-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/13/2011 12:09 PM, Per Bothner wrote: ... > > and then it hangs. > > Same problem using both the full DVD (burned to a DVD) and > a Live CD (nightly from a few days ago, on a USB stick). .. > > This is on a semi-new Sandy Bridge laptop. I succe There is some discussion on the linux-ke

Re: kernel 2.6.39 around the corner will it make Fedora 15?

2011-05-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/11/2011 06:48 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear fellow testers, > > I see that recently kernel 2.6.38.6 has been released and a rc7 has been > released for 2.6.39. It is getting close to being released, if it comes out, > will it go into Fedora 15 or will Fedora 15 continue with 2.6.38.X

Re: Fedora 14 Re-spin?

2011-05-03 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/03/2011 04:11 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > With all the Gnome 3 usability issues et al, perhaps it would be a > good idea to release a re-spin of Fedora 14. > Unlikely there will be official respin - never has been one yet - even tho its very easy to do. Its easy to make y

Re: f15 and fonts

2011-04-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/30/2011 10:06 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/01/2011 06:23 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> Meanwhile, the gnome-font-properties or gnome-appearance >> apps seem to have vanished from the face of f15, so I can't >> play with any of the font setting I used to be able to >> play with to influence t

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now (James Catchpole)

2011-04-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/27/2011 11:11 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: ... >> You forgot the other old guideline for all mailing lists >> >> 3. Keep ones signature to a minimum. >> 4) do it in private email instead of blasting the entire group ... :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/27/2011 05:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > it is unlikely to > influence desktop environment choices for the majority of users speak for yourself please ... unless you have real data .. > and if > some other desktop environment is more suitable for such users, why not > use that? Thi

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/27/2011 08:16 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > Perhaps a minor point, but important. > > Fedora has not made Gnome 3 its default (this implies that Fedora has > somehow actively evaluated Gnome 3 and decided that it is the best, > which hasn't happened). > > What has been true since Fedora

Re: Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/26/2011 01:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Tom is wrong. It is a ongoing series of blogs and nothing so far > written in any part of the series is outdated now well good .. coz they are rather nice docs :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://adm

Re: Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/26/2011 12:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:04:35 -0400 > > The great section on systemd for administrators appears to be > a historial set of blog entries that reflect the truth at the > time the blog was written, not the truth as it stands today > with the evolved relea

Re: Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/26/2011 11:59 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd > > > I'll admit that I haven't tried F15 yet, but I will have to soon, (so ... > But I would be starting my search for help information with 'man > systemd' and failing that... > 'apropos sys

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/26/2011 11:23 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: >> Why did Fedora decide to abandon Gnome 2, instead of offering Gnome 3 as >> >an experimental college-level project via a spin (as one poster here already >> >asked), ... > As much as I dislike Gnome 3 and am considering my alternatives, it is > v

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/25/2011 05:23 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: >> On 04/25/2011 11:19 AM, drago01 wrote: ... > > http://git.gnome.org/ > http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ > Perhaps there are different issues being discussed here - if so we should be more clea

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/25/2011 12:35 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 04/25/2011 12:19 PM, drago01 wrote: > >> "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster >> horse.” – Henry Ford Far more likely ... if they had been asked they would have asked for flying

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/25/2011 12:19 PM, drago01 wrote: > "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster > horse.” – Henry Ford > > Horses even had a *much* longer tradition then the windows 95 style desktop ;) o We didn't move from horse to car - we moved from horse to donkey :-) o Or

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/22/2011 10:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 11:57 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: ... > > Aunt Tilly (or Uncle Tilson) wouldn't be setting up any apps which > didn't provide their own menu entries. You can't expect Tilly / Tilson > to be w

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/22/2011 11:57 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 04/22/2011 11:37 AM, Angel wrote: > >> >> A .desktop file needs to be placed in /usr/share/Applications or >> ~/.local/share/applications/. >> > Someone made a comparison to Mac OS being new and different

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/22/2011 11:37 AM, Angel wrote: > > A .desktop file needs to be placed in /usr/share/Applications or > ~/.local/share/applications/. > Great - Aunt Tillie can learn to use Emacs and XML at the same time .. yay ... certainly new and different as one poster put it ... better .. time till

Re: Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-04-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/20/2011 03:43 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > seth vidal wrote: >> wasteful to what? > > When I create updates in the future should I make them hundreds of lines > long like I'm in detention at school, too? I don't like resulting to > sarcasm, but I don't see how you see this as not waste

Re: nvidia/nouveau problems

2011-04-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/20/2011 01:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> First I get this console message: >> mkdir: cannot create directory `/run': File exists > > This is known, and harmless (currently systemd tries to create /run when > it starts in case it doesn't exist in the filesystem, but F15's > filesystem

Re: F15 and GNOME 3

2011-04-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/05/2011 11:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 08:11 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> It would be appropriate to discuss here which DE fedora should using ... > > Not 'here' as in test list, really, no: it would probably make more >

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/05/2011 12:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 10:49 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> Indeed ... there is something simplistically elegant about: >> >> 3 >> vs >> multi-user.target > > Or, you could look upon

Re: F15 and GNOME 3

2011-04-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/05/2011 04:33 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 04/05/2011 08:15 AM, JB wrote: > > No you are actually wrong here Gnome design and any other *DE or spin > design flaws or praises should be mentioned on their relevant list > within the project or upstream where all the relevant develop

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/02/2011 04:44 AM, Adam Pribyl wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Adam Williamson wrote: > ... > >> systemd's native concept is 'targets'; graphical.target is roughly >> equivalent to runlevel 5 and multi-user.target is roughly equivalent to >> runlevel 3. rescue.target is roughly equal to runleve

Re: GNOME Shell and FAQ

2011-03-29 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/29/2011 02:47 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 03/29/2011 12:23 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> >> >> Also worth pointing out that this is an entirely 'focus on the negative' >> faq. > In fairness to the wiki author(s) - there has been a lot more negative feedback than positive - certainly o

Re: Boot time F15

2011-03-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/25/2011 06:52 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 16:52 -0500, John Watzke wrote: >> >> Like maybe it's trying to mount my nfs mount before the >> network and/or services to do it have started yet? (just to >> try, I'll >> make sure it's not sleepi

Re: f14 and xfce 4.8

2011-03-21 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/21/2011 03:08 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Montag, den 21.03.2011, 15:00 -0400 schrieb Genes MailLists: >> On 03/21/2011 01:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 03/21/2011 10:21 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: >>>> Is there a chance 4.8 could be packaged for f1

Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts

2011-03-21 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/21/2011 02:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Erm. We already do exactly this, and the offending update is only in f15 > updates-testing, not in dist-f15. It has -4 karma and will never be > promoted to 'stable' without a fix. Understood - although I thought the point being bandied about her

Re: f14 and xfce 4.8

2011-03-21 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/21/2011 01:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 03/21/2011 10:21 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> Following Alan's suggestion to consider xfce as an alternative to gnome >> shell - I see the f14 version is 4.6.2 and the current (as of january >> 2011) is 4.8 >> &

f14 and xfce 4.8

2011-03-21 Thread Genes MailLists
Following Alan's suggestion to consider xfce as an alternative to gnome shell - I see the f14 version is 4.6.2 and the current (as of january 2011) is 4.8 Is there a chance 4.8 could be packaged for f14 ? thanks! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fe

Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts

2011-03-21 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/21/2011 04:18 AM, cornel panceac wrote: > > indeed, is a good workaround for now but, leaving aside that it requires > prior knowledge, the general problem remains. fair enough > imho, selecting a few > required services (like assigning priorities) and making the others > optional may rel

Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts

2011-03-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/20/2011 04:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >> what happens if you replace After= with Wants= ? > > After is used to define order in which services should be started. > Wants is used to define required dependencies. > > > so replace it with: Prefers.foo Prefers.foo.DontWaitMoreTh

Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts

2011-03-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/20/2011 03:43 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > In a stable distribution such situation would not be possible because > of the whole testing procedures etc. > > But of course there should be a way to avoid such situation. I hope > that Lennart will find a good way to solve this problem soon

Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts

2011-03-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/20/2011 02:41 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > Perhaps the problem is that most systemd services requires to start > them when rsyslog is running > After=syslog.target > > This should be fixed somehow - there should be a way to tell systemd > that service B isn't critical to start service

Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts

2011-03-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/20/2011 01:57 AM, cornel panceac wrote: > > > > indeed, yum downgrade rsyslog fixed it. can systemd be configured in > such a way that not so important services are not preventing the system > to work properly? > > Agreed - logging failure probably should not prevent the system from

Re: f15 no longer starts

2011-03-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/19/2011 11:10 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Vaclav Misek wrote: > >> it was the rsyslog package. > > Thanks a million! > > yum downgrade rsyslog > > cured it. I am back using F15 again. > I'm curious - how does a bad rsyslog package prevent the system from booting ? Should it ??

Re: [Fedora QA] #172: Printing test day

2011-02-21 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/21/2011 11:49 AM, Fedora QA wrote: > #172: Printing test day > ---+ > Reporter: twaugh| Owner: johannbg > Type: task | Status: assigned > Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 15

Re: openssh 5.8

2011-02-09 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/09/2011 01:00 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 02/09/2011 09:46 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >>> >>> OK - just thought maybe this would be of interest to more than just me >> >> Possibly. A RFE on bugzilla can be posted to the mailing list

Re: fedora documentation me appear ????

2010-10-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/31/2010 03:54 PM, stan wrote: > What is strange is that when I turn on javascript, the Fedora 13 logo > has scroll bars on it under some circumstances. > Looks completely fine to me (google-chrome, 64 bit) - at least I didnt manage to trigger what I think you're saying. -- test mailing

Re: Fedora 12 updates-testing report

2010-10-29 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/30/2010 12:05 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> I just installed an F12 VM, updated it, then updated it from >> updates-testing, rebooted, and +1'ed all the critpath updates (since it >> works fine). We need at least one other person to do this to push all >>

Re: Fedora 12 updates-testing report

2010-10-29 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/29/2010 11:52 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 15:45 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> Even though it is not as bad as it appears, it is still obvious that we >>> lack the testing resources to properly enforce our current critical path >>> policies for older stable releas

Re: Revisor - I give up :-(

2010-10-18 Thread Genes MailLists
> On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 12:31 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote: >> I've beaten my head against revisor for two days now, actually >> patching python code >> and examinig debug output. I'm retired from programming on disability >> for a good >> reason, my head hurts (bad) and I'm depressed and confus

Re: R -> texlive -> libpoppler

2010-10-03 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/03/2010 09:51 AM, Stefan Grosse wrote: > On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 08:54:50 -0600 Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > OP> R uses latex for documentation. Not sure if there is a sensible > OP> split that would make it optional. It should be able to require > OP> tex(latex) I believe for generic latex s

Re: R -> texlive -> libpoppler

2010-10-01 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/01/2010 10:54 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 10/01/2010 06:40 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> >> Is there any way to decouple the bulk of R from requiring texlive [1]? >> It seems bizarre that a stats package has a deep coupling with a >> typesetting language .

Re: R -> texlive -> libpoppler

2010-10-01 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/01/2010 07:04 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: > dikshie wrote: > >> anyone aware about libpoppler issue in rawhide? > > Yes, a new poppler landed recently, and rebuilds are proceeding. One of > those just done recently was texlive. > > -- Rex > > Is there any way to decouple the bulk of R from

Re: Harddisk installation fails

2010-09-24 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/24/2010 02:51 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:02:57 -0400 > James Laska wrote: > >> Hard drive ISO installs are still available, but, a >> I understand it, are not the most common installation method given the >> setup involved. > > Hey, the way I look at the setup involved

Re: nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/16/2010 02:38 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > nss-tools package does not provide any of those; just a bunch of > utilities. > Mea culpa - I had simply done a yum list installed | egrep nss to see what was installed and added the i686 versions ... I erased nss-tools.i686 and for good

Re: nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/16/2010 12:57 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: I have sometimes to run 32 bit apps as there is as yet no 64 bit version. So, for me, all I need is the right suite of 32 bit runtime libs to be available. What I have been doing so far is ldd'ing the apps and figuring out what needs to be

Re: nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/16/2010 12:49 PM, seth vidal wrote: > multilib_policy=all > > in yum.conf [main] > > it's in the man page. > > -sv > > To be clear - lets say I do a clean 64 bit install. Then I edit the yum.conf - add the above as you suggest. yum update does not install any 32 bit libs (or apps

Re: nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/16/2010 12:49 PM, seth vidal wrote: >> What do you recommend I do now to clean up - Heres what I have >> installed (those whose names start with nss): > > multilib_policy=all > > in yum.conf [main] > > it's in the man page. > > -sv > > Great thanks - I had man yum (instead of yum.c

Re: nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/16/2010 09:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > So, you should not have installed nss-tools.i686 manually. Ah - but yum update did not work without installing it. I imagine when I added the i686 libs - I did not do it right ... I could find no clean way to make the box multiarch aside from ad

Re: nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/16/2010 09:09 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 09/16/2010 08:58 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> >> Then let Yum handle it instead of asking explicitly for i686 or x86_64. > >Thats where I started last week .. and this was an attempt to see if > I could

Re: nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/16/2010 08:58 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Then let Yum handle it instead of asking explicitly for i686 or x86_64. Thats where I started last week .. and this was an attempt to see if I could get further. . what is broken here ? rpm, yum or the >> packages ? > > What's strange her

nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread Genes MailLists
I have both 64 and 32 bit libs installed. - (Try 1) - yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update nss nspr nss-tools Error: Package: nss-tools-3.12.6-12.fc13.i686 (@/nss-tool

Re: Firefox out of date

2010-08-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/31/2010 04:00 PM, martin tack wrote: > quote :*This page is best viewed in an up-to-date web browser with style > sheets (CSS) enabled. > > and quote : **Please consider upgrading your browser software or > enabling style sheets (CSS) if you are able to do so. > I dont use firefox any m

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Genes MailLists
As a side note - google chrome has native flash builtin .. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test