[Texascavers] Little Big Horn

2008-06-26 Thread Mixon Bill
If we are to fall back into off-topic rambling, mightn't it at least be about the environment? Did the Battle of Little Big Horn occur in a cave, or what? Personally, I think the list has been pretty dull lately, but on the other hand a new caver who was visiting me yesterday got rather

[ot_caving] police state news

2008-06-26 Thread David
Here is further proof that the police state we are living in, has gotten out of control: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/25/mobile.brothel.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview This would have been a great franchise service that could assist people in tiny rural communities worldwide like McDonald's

RE: [ot_caving] police state news

2008-06-26 Thread Louise Power
Having lived in rural Nevada for almost ten years, I can tell you right now, the only people interested in legal brothels--mobile or otherwise--are the cowboys, the miners and the tourists. Most residents could care less as long as the residents don't cause trouble. As far as $$$ potential

[Texascavers] Governor Perry Recognized Pollinator Week - June 22-28, 2008

2008-06-26 Thread Mike Quinn
Greetings, Governor Perry Recognized Pollinator Week Read details of how Betty Jensen spearheaded this recognition: http://heartwoodtmn.org/node/1039 Official Pollinator Week Proclamation (pdf 938 KB) http://heartwoodtmn.org/files/Pollinator%20Week.pdf Betty Jensen, Treasurer Texas Master

[ot_caving] head north of the border Re: [ot_caving] police state news

2008-06-26 Thread Nigel Dyson-Hudson
Dave, Now you know what kind of work place you can set-up north of the border. The way you sometimes complain about Texas, maybe you should head north and chill out. grin Canadian Prostitution Laws A much more mature approach -- In Canada, prostitution law enforcement tends to be complaint

Re: [ot_caving] head north of the border Re: [ot_caving] police state news

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
In THIS country - it would seem profit driven. The vice-laws that is. In my opinion, the system victimizes the victim in any way it can. -WaV's .02 On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Nigel Dyson-Hudson n...@cavesar.com wrote: Dave, Now you know what kind of work place you can set-up north of

[Texascavers] Suunto compas and clinometer for sale

2008-06-26 Thread keith heuss
Only two or three years old.  I got these when my old units were stolen in Mexico.  Like new condition, hardly ever used, never used in a cave.  Asking $100 will take highest bid over $60. They are valued at around $200. Make me an offer, Keith Heuss

[Texascavers] Suuntos for Sale

2008-06-26 Thread keith heuss
All, They are sold. Keith Heuss

Re: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-26 Thread Mike Flannigan
That is the same media who tells us every couple months about cars that run on water. What morons. Mike On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Very interesting. I knew that we don't make hydrogen, but that's the term the media uses when reporting it.

Re: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
And LET ME - Not David Locklear this time - make this assertion/prediction: If you think your electric bill is high now - just wait until you charge up your car every night with house current! I will bet that you're looking at a $500 per month increase (above your $200 to $300 per month bill) if

[ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread quinta
Well this is some info I found today pasted below. It comes from http://environmenttexas.org/action/clean-energy/transmission?id4=ES I was interested in the numbers they say would power all of Texas. Just FYI. Quinta Texas is the national leader in wind power and we have the potential to meet

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread Louise Power
Very interesting. I say do it! Get out from under the thumb of foreign governments. I heard on the news the other day that the dollar is in such bad shape that a lot of things, including more major real estate in major cities is in danger of being snapped up by foreign investors who already

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread quinta
Devil's advocate here - ;-) I bet a tornado could damage solar panels and wind turbines a lot more than it could a nuclear reactor! -DC Yep, I play devils advocate a lot some days. How many times does one 30 sq mile area get a tornado? Wichita Falls has had two big ones in my life time 63 yrs.

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread David
Just south of Yuma, Arizona and a few miles southeast of San Luis del Rio Colorado, Sonora, is a very large flat chunk of sand. http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/sonora-state-mexico/sonora-state-mexico-map-a0.gif I spent a day in the hot sun out there with my tiny Mazda GLC stuck in the sand. I was

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread RD Milhollin
I bet a nuclear accident could REALLY put a dent in them solar panels! _ From: qui...@clearwire.net [mailto:qui...@clearwire.net] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:23 AM To: Don Cooper; o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power Devil's advocate here - ;-) I

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread RD Milhollin
This all smell like a plan of, by, and for the big corporate energy providers. What about using all the empty roof-top space INSIDE the cities, such as the roofs of malls, Walmarts, grocery stores, car lots, parking lots, strip-centers, individual homes, apartment buildings etc. I can see this as

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
A couple of things about solar panels: 1. They are very very expensive. 2. The current technology seems to only convert Infrared into electricity. Wide spectrum conversion is being done, but only on the panels that go into space - that kind of panel is 10 times more expensive. I know someone that

Re: [Texascavers] The Battle of the Little Big Horn

2008-06-26 Thread Jim Evatt
Osiyo, Unakas: Many misstatements. Tsalagi (Cherokee) were definitely not there. The N.A. encampment consisted mainly of Northern Cheyenne, Arapaho, and Lakota. The Seventh under Custer consisted of 211 troops and officers, not five. Five refers to companies of troops, or the five

Re: [Texascavers] The Battle of the Little Big Horn

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
I thoroughly enjoyed the account of that battle in the movie Little Big Man starring (a rather young) Dustin Hoffman. It too was probably historically incorrect - but I imagine it was a fairly close 'personality sketch' of an arrogant and delusional Custer (who reminds me of another person who has

Re: [Texascavers] The Battle of the Little Big Horn

2008-06-26 Thread Scott Nicholson
The book Bury my heart at Wounded Knee has a compilation of first-person accounts (by indians present at the battle) that anyone interested should check out.   In fact, the whole book is an interesting read.   Ciao,  Scott Nicholson Broker/Waterboy Discovery Realty Group 512-947-2688 KW

RE: [Texascavers] The Battle of the Little Big Horn

2008-06-26 Thread mark . alman
Great movie! Mark From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Thu 6/26/2008 9:58 AM To: Jim Evatt Cc: Texas Cavers; Belski, Dave Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Battle of the Little Big Horn I thoroughly enjoyed the account of that battle in the

[ot_caving] hybrid news

2008-06-26 Thread David
According to this article a new study shows hybrids not the best choice for budget minded consumers. http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-fi-cars26-2008jun26,0,139265.story Duh!!! Instead of having a new study, they could have read my Cavetex post from 6 frickin years ago.

[Texascavers] free cave tour

2008-06-26 Thread David
By Stella Davis Current-Argus Staff Writer Visitors to Carlsbad Caverns National Park got a pleasant surprise on Tuesday. Their entrance to tour the famed caverns was free. Park Superintendent John Benjamin said the ticket computers located in a temporary trailer during the year-long