[Texascavers] LIDAR Project last weekend

2008-07-28 Thread Geary Schindel
On Saturday and Sunday, Kevin McGowin, Xueming, Xue, Nora Pidilla, and myself, along with Aspen Schindel, Sue Schindel, Fran Hutchins, Rebecca Hutchens, and Mike Cunningham got together to sort out photos taken by Kevin for the LIDAR project at Devils Sinkhole. We ended up with about 300

[ot_caving] OT - health food

2008-07-28 Thread David
What would be a healthy drink shortly before going on a long cave trip? How about probiotic soymilk: http://www.bevnet.com/news/2008/03-11-2008-Wildwood.asp I had the blueberry flavor for breakfast today. It tasted a little like cardboard, but more like rice, and went down like milk of

[Texascavers] Camper shell needed

2008-07-28 Thread Gill Ediger
I'm trying to find a plastic or aluminum camper shell to beg, borrow, buy, or steal for my upcoming trip to Conrado Castillo. My truck is a Dodge 3/4-ton with an 8-foot bed. My current speleo-camper is too heavy for the toilet paper steel that the formerly stout Dodges are now made of and need

[Texascavers] Bermuda caving news

2008-07-28 Thread David
According to the news today in Bermuda http://www.royalgazette.com/siftology.royalgazette/Article/article.jsp?articleId=7d87d373003000bsectionId=60 , 2 speleologist had all their gear and equipment stolen.

[Texascavers] RE: Conrado Castillo 2 Kennedy

2008-07-28 Thread Gill Ediger
At 09:58 AM 7/28/2008, you wrote: Ediger, it would help if you told us WHEN you are planning to go. -- Crash Well, I thought of that. The answer is soon. I thought I'd put out an inquiry and see who responded and when they wanted to go since nobody has been willing to meet my schedule

RE: [Texascavers] RE: Sinkhole in New Mexico

2008-07-28 Thread Louise Power
I realized that when I saw a picture of the hole from a different angle and immediately sent a retraction. It still looks weird, though. From: mminton@nmhu.eduTo: texascavers@texascavers.comDate: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:29:54 -0400Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Sinkhole in New Mexico Louise

RE: [Texascavers] RE: Sinkhole in New Mexico

2008-07-28 Thread George Veni
I forgot to mention this earlier, but the line is brown soil up to a meter thick standing in contrast against the whitish rock below. By the way, as of yesterday, the sinkhole was about 110 m in diameter, roughly 35-40 m deep, and with no water at the bottom. Expansion will slowly continue as

[ot_caving] FW: Increased virus threat to BLM computers

2008-07-28 Thread Louise Power
This came to us from our Washington Office today. If any of you have gotten these fake UPS or Fedex e-mails, dump them. The WO-590 Continuous Monitoring and Auditing Branch have noticed an increase in the following virus. The majority of these viruses have been blocked [NOTE: THIS

[ot_caving] health food--my-ass

2008-07-28 Thread Gill Ediger
At 08:37 AM 7/28/2008, David wrote: How about probiotic soymilk: It tasted a little like cardboard, but more like rice, and went down like milk of magnesia. I've always found milk and yogurt to be excellent soy substitutes. They taste like milk and yogurt. --Ediger

Re: [ot_caving] health food--my-ass

2008-07-28 Thread Nigel Dyson-Hudson
And I believe that it was in "Stranger in a Strange Land" that cigarettes were found to be a health food. PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals. NOT People Eating Tasty Annuals. grin And the Austin programmers for a certain large company, think HAL, used deadbeef to initialize variables in their

[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting July 30

2008-07-28 Thread garyfranklin2
UT Grotto meeting – July 30, 2008 www.utgrotto.org The meeting is on Wednesday from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M. on the University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Gary Franklin will be presenting a recent trip to Golindrinas. Come see how

[ot_caving] Astronaut: Aliens Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Louise Power
Just thought I'd turn our minds to other subjects: Astronaut: Aliens Are RealBy Tom Shoop | Friday, July 25, 2008 | 10:16 AM Well, the conspiracy had to crack sometime. Edgar Mitchell, an astronaut on Apollo 14 and the sixth man to walk on the moon, told Kerrang! Radio this week that

Re: [ot_caving] Astronaut: Aliens Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Don Cooper
Just for the record... and I hope others will chime in as well. I do NOT believe. I think that abundant life is out there, and somewhere there are other creatures pondering the possible existence of us, as well. Yet the physical obstacle of getting from one island of life to another is so

RE: [ot_caving] Astronaut: Aliens Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Fritz Holt
I DON'T EITHER. Fritz From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:25 PM To: Louise Power Cc: Off Topic Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Astronaut: Aliens Are Real Just for the record... and I hope others will chime in as well. I do NOT

RE: [ot_caving] Astronaut: Aliens Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Louise Power
Do you really believe that any of the happy accidents that make us human are exclusive to this little planet? To quote the title of a recent movie: I want to believe. Looking at the recent news I really don't want to believe that we're at the top of the social pyramid; that there's nothing

Re: [ot_caving] Astronaut: Aliens Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread CaverArch
In a message dated 07/28/08 17:25:12 Central Daylight Time, wavyca...@gmail.com writes: Just for the record... and I hope others will chime in as well. I do NOT believe. Chiming away: Aliens are probably real, but we aren't going to see them on our doorstep (or vice versa) Interstellar flight

[ot_caving] Chimes Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Gill Ediger
At 06:29 PM 7/28/2008, CaverArch wrote: In a message dated 07/28/08 17:25:12 Central Daylight Time, wavyca...@gmail.com writes: Just for the record... and I hope others will chime in as well. I do NOT believe. There are a couple (at least) of phenomena extant that make believing in things a

Re: [ot_caving] Chimes Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Don Cooper
Hey Charles - Is there any way I can post to everyone on OT and EXCLUDE people who are too smart to talk to? -DC On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Gill Ediger gi...@worldnet.att.netwrote: At 06:29 PM 7/28/2008, CaverArch wrote: In a message dated 07/28/08 17:25:12 Central Daylight Time,

Re: [ot_caving] Chimes Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Heh, nope, but you gotta admit, he certainly has a way with words though. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Charles - Is there any way I can post to everyone on OT and EXCLUDE people who are too smart to talk to? -DC On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:43

Re: [ot_caving] Chimes Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Don Cooper
If I was into hot air ballooning - I'd bring him along in case I run out of propaneHa! -DC On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote: Heh, nope, but you gotta admit, he certainly has a way with words though. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Don Cooper

[Texascavers] NSS Convention

2008-07-28 Thread David
The NSS Convention is going to be a whole lot of fun, and I would encourage people to consider going. It officially starts in just 15 days. If you would like to receive daily reports ( from me ) about the NSS Convention, please send an e-mail privately at. dlocklea...@gmail.com I

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

2008-07-28 Thread Philip L Moss
I am looking forward to the day when the NSS Photo Salon is shown live on my 65 inch LCD TV in my living room, along with the exploration programs, and video salon, etc. David Locklear The opinions offered below are my own. I hope the NSS never shows the photo salon or any other

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

2008-07-28 Thread William H. Russell
I am looking forward to the day when the NSS Photo Salon is shown live on my 65 inch LCD TV in my living room, along with the exploration programs, and video salon, etc. David Locklear The opinions offered below are my own. I hope the NSS never shows the photo salon or any other

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

2008-07-28 Thread Bill Walden
Philip, I cannot agree more! I don't think that the NSS has done anything or failed to do anything to retain and attract members. I've noted that service clubs are having the same problem and that started with the 1990's or late 80's. The grotto to which I belong, The Central Ohio Grotto

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

2008-07-28 Thread Bill Walden
Re: [Texascavers] NSS ConventionA reply to William Hart Russell: The NSS Convention moves around enough that it is within a day's drive for most of us every few years. My family has always made it a vacation - a week at convention and a week touring. I don't believe that digital interaction

[Texascavers] NSS Convention

2008-07-28 Thread Gill Ediger
At 09:11 PM 7/28/2008, William H. Russell wrote: In the digital age one should not have to attend a convention to be a committed member. It might be to increase retention we need to find directors that are more comfortable with digital interaction. They will spend the time and energy

[Texascavers] TSA Colorado Bend SP Project Leadership change

2008-07-28 Thread rafal kedzierski
This upcoming year I have to focus on my job and career more than I really would like - I have to pass my accreditation exams - so being in charge of Colorado Bend SP is something I can't do. Still love caving, still love the Hill Country and the park, I am just going to come out to support

[ot_caving] FW: Army Mechanical Mule

2008-07-28 Thread Fritz Holt
This most interesting post was sent to me by a life-long friend and retired US Army major with whom I recently became re-acquainted. I also find it interesting that the rear legs are like a person walking forward and the front legs like the action of walking backwards. Fritz

Re: [ot_caving] FW: Army Mechanical Mule

2008-07-28 Thread CaverArch
Fritz, the climbing robot was even creepier! Roger This most interesting post was sent to me by a life-long friend and retired US Army major with whom I recently became re-acquainted. I also find it interesting that the rear legs are like a person walking forward and the front legs like the

Re: [ot_caving] FW: Army Mechanical Mule

2008-07-28 Thread David
Now they need to work on a giant tarantula model, and give it artificial intelligence. - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: