More heads up info on travel to Mexico.
Thought the third to last paragraph mentioning Monterrey was especially
interesting.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/03/04/mexico.spring.break/index.html?hpt=Sbin
FYI
Josh
-- Forwarded message --
From: Nathaniel Farrar nc...@virginia.edu
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Subject: Popular Science Magazine Online!
From: Cheryl Jones
(Boldly plagiarized from a post by David Riggs on CaveChat)
Popular
This is it, the last call for volunteers to speak at the TSA
Convention on Saturday, March 27. We have a great list of speakers,
currently the emphasis is on biospeleology and Mexico caving. Any and
all caving-related topics are welcome, contact me as soon as possible
over the next week.
texascavers Digest 5 Mar 2010 18:51:11 - Issue 997
Topics (messages 14049 through 14061):
Re: CBSP
14049 by: Heather Tucek
14053 by: Butch Fralia
14054 by: Jim Kennedy
Texas police warn spring breakers: Stay out of Mexico border towns
14050 by:
I'm looking for a Tralfamadorian explorer named Salo...
-WaV
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net wrote:
See the article at:
http://is.gd/9IEMJ
Anyone up for a trip?
Lee Skinner
-
Visit
I'd ask Kilgore Trout.Mar 5, 2010 07:01:50 AM, wavyca...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm looking for a Tralfamadorian explorer named Salo...-WaV
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net wrote:
See the article at:http://is.gd/9IEMJAnyone up for a trip?Lee
Karstification (the creation of a landscape that drains internally) can
occur in substances other than limestone, in particular, ice. If you got
liquid methane, it is pretty cold. The broad basins looks to me like
craters. (Look to the upper right of the black and white photo for
perfectly
See the article at:
http://is.gd/9IEMJ
Anyone up for a trip?
Lee Skinner
Does anyone know where White Canyon, Utah is, and its geologic
context? I'm skeptical that the karst terrain image shown there at the
above Web site displays limestone karst topography--though some features
I just want anyone who is planning a caving trip to Titan, Mars, or the Moon
know that I am available to serve as the team's field archaeologist should you
encounter any exo-cultural materials; I could use a long vacation. Unless, of
course, you are planning to survey The Vaults of Yoh-Vombis.
Donald,
I am not familiar with White Canyon, Utah, but a Google search reveals a canyon
by that name in the Lake Powell area. It appears to be a slot canyon, at least
in places, in sandstone.
Larry Pardue
http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/white_canyon/
On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:40
Donald,
I am not familiar with White Canyon, Utah, but a Google search
reveals a canyon by that name in the Lake Powell area. It appears to be a
slot canyon, at least in places, in sandstone.
Larry Pardue
http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/white_canyon/
Evidently so.
I have hiked a section of White Canyon, Utah, an area I believe is called the
Black Box, and I agree that it is not karst topography. It is mostly, if not
all, formed in sandstone, like other Southern Utah slot canyons. While there
could be limestone layers present, the canyon has been formed
texascavers Digest 5 Mar 2010 21:24:57 - Issue 998
Topics (messages 14062 through 14071):
Re: TCMA Deep and Punkin Preserve
14062 by: Charlie Averyt
14066 by: Geary Schindel
Re: Howie's Harness ?
14063 by: Joe Ranzau
14067 by: Nikki Green
14068 by:
Hello,
This is an advertisement for a small number of open spots for the UT Grotto
PEP trip to Conrado Castillo in Mexico. This trip is coming up VERY SOON.
Our previous transportation problems have been solved, and we have a couple
spots available.
IF:
a. you have at least a little survey
Is there any news on Howie's Harness ?
That was one of the big vendors at ICS.They have been a regular at
NSS Conventions for many years. It seems like they even came to
a TCR one time.
-
Visit our website:
What kind of news?
He made two very nice harnesses for Sara and me. Went to the extra
hassle of making a removeable padded neoprene liner for comfort rappels.
Joe
On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:45 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any news on Howie's Harness ?
That was one of the
I read on another caver list-serv that Howie sold all of his remaining
stock to IMO. IMO is not planning on bringing sewing machines to
conventions to customize things either.
Nikki Green
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 5, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Joe Ranzau jran...@gmail.com wrote:
What kind of
It wasn't IMO, but Bruce Smith's On Rope 1.
Mark Minton
Quoting Nikki Green thelogicl...@gmail.com:
I read on another caver list-serv that Howie sold all of his remaining
stock to IMO. IMO is not planning on bringing sewing machines to
conventions to customize things either.
Nikki
not planning on bringing sewing machines to
conventions to customize things either.
Well, that's a bummer. Sewing is a dying art, and much needed in the caving
world to customize packs, knee pads, caving suits..maybe I should learn how
to use the one my mother left me..
You can come by and visit me or Becky Jones, we're both still sewing stuff
(Becky, a lot more than me but then again, I'll have more free time) LOL.
Geary
From: germa...@aol.com [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 3:15 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re:
He does GREAT work too! In fact both of them do!
-- Original Message --
From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
To: germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com,texascavers@texascavers.com
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: Howie's Harness ?
And he sews, too. The all-round caver. Maybe we should put a sewing machine
out on the Deep/Punkin preserve so Geary can sew now that he won't be busy
running the place :-)
-Original Message-
From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
To: germa...@aol.com
Ron Rutherford does some sewing in the Driftwood/Rolling Oaks area, a
little closer to home for some. Custom caving pants are in the works.
-Original Message-
From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
To: germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
In the business, we call this a quadruple threat – I can sing, dance, sew, and
I’m good looking – I’ll even clean out the Loo when needed. I just don’t do
windows.
G
From: germa...@aol.com [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:01 PM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject:
Mark,
The TSS has one cave in it's files that fits that description: Frios
Blowhole (BRE099). It is on the Pine Mountain East 7.5' quadrangle. We
have coordinates. Jerry Atkinson was in contact with the owner in 1995.
One of the notes in the database says While it is possible to
Watkins Cave was renamed to Glowworm Cave at the Owner's request...
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Jim Kennedy
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 2:15 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] RE: caves in Brewster and Reagan counties
Gee, the reports of my demise are a bit premature. I wrote that report for the
landowner back in 1995 when we explored and surveyed the cave on the ranch. We
can certainly give you a good head start on the caves that are known on the
ranch.
Jerry Atkinson
Texas Speleological Survey
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
texascavers@texascavers.com mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
at texascavers-ow...@texascavers.com.
I respectfully request your permission to add
cave4l...@gmail.com
to the subscribers of the texascavers mailing list.
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:18 PM, texascavers-h...@texascavers.com wrote:
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
texascavers@texascavers.com mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
at texascavers-ow...@texascavers.com.
I respectfully request your permission to add
Where do they find those idiots to write press releases? That area in
Utah is just a classic stream-dissected plateau, not karst. Look at
the photo right-side up and that's obvious. The link to a larger view
of the Titan photo doesn't work, so I'll reserve judgement on that
one, but I do
It goes something like this:
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1174
- Fofo
Mixon Bill wrote, on 5/3/10 7:03:
Where do they find those idiots to write press releases?
...
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Visit our website: http://texascavers.com
To Fofo and all,
With reference to phd comics! One can easily prove any two numbers equal. I
remember this from high school days ugh, 50 some years ago:
Given:
One can maintain the equality of an equation as long as the same operation is
done to both sides.
a+b=cMultiply both
If a is going to turn out to equal b, then a-b has to be 0, therefore in your
first step you multiplied both sides of the equation by 0. In caving terms,
this would be equivalent to the following: If you start out in a cave with 2
stalactites of equal length, and you break both of them off and
Bill,
The problem is in the fourth step. For it to be equivelent you have to
square the whole function on each side not the invidual variables. For
example the square of 2 plus the square of 3 are not equal to the square of
(2+3). Besides a-c is the square root of a2-2ca+c2
not a2-ca+c2
would y'all mind keeping math out of the list, I have more than enough of it
in school, thank you
Nico
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Josh Rubinstein kars...@gmail.com wrote:
Bill,
The problem is in the fourth step. For it to be equivelent you have to
square the whole function on each
Multiplying by zero is not a problem; division is. This is
similar to the problem below.
a = b
ab = b2
ab-a2 = b2-a2
a(b-a) = (b+a)(b-a)
a = b+a
1 = 2
Mark Minton
At 05:08 PM 3/5/2010, Ed Goff wrote:
If a is going to turn out to equal b, then a-b has to be 0,
therefore in your first
Anyone here interested in working with a Boy Scout Troop during the CBSP
weekend next week?
I think they will be tasked with helping to start to move the Cavers Camp, or
some other task Jim or Cory seems fit.
On past work weekends, I have taken Scouts to Turtle Shell in the AM and
Caver's Camp has already been moved, by the way...
On 5 March 2010 07:20, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
Anyone here interested in working with a Boy Scout Troop during the CBSP
weekend next week?
I think they will be tasked with helping to start to move the Cavers Camp,
or some other task
Wow!
Y'all work quick! Is there a map showing the new location?
Mark
From: Heather Tucek [mailto:trog...@cavechat.org]
Sent: Fri 3/5/2010 7:28 AM
To: Alman, Mark @ EOS
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] re: CBSP
Caver's Camp
It's maybe 100 yard further in from where it was before. You can see it from
the old camping area. Not sure if a new map is really necessary...
On 5 March 2010 07:28, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
Wow!
Y'all work quick! Is there a map showing the new location?
Mark
If the camp is 100 yards further in, the map at:
http://cavetexas.org/maps/cbsp.html should be satisfactory for the moment.
I’ll someone will get me a GPS location for the approximate center of the
camping area, I’ll update the online map with the correct coordinates and move
the “pointer” to
We moved the fire ring less than 100 feet, not 100 yards. The old map and
directions are perfectly good.
Jim, CBSP Project Coordinator
From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:11 AM
To: 'Heather Tucek'; mark.al...@l-3com.com
Cc:
Is Colorado bend next weekend?
_
From: Jim Kennedy [mailto:jkenn...@batcon.org]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:17 AM
To: Butch Fralia; Heather Tucek; mark.al...@l-3com.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] re: CBSP
We moved the fire ring less than 100
Folks,
I wanted to let people know about some recent developments at the Deep and
Punkin Preserve. Recently, the TCMA board of directors voted to remove the
second floor of the back porch structure because of safety and liability
concerns. This was decided as the best option for the site. A
I would like to thank Geary for his years of hard work out at Punkin and Deep.
He stepped up in the beginning and took over as the TCMA Preserve Manager. His
years of hard work have resulted in many improvements to the property. Geary's
dedication to the preserve has set a high standard for
High standard indeed. The property has come a long way, and I’ve personally
had many good times there. Thanks for your service!
Charlie
Thomas,
Thanks for your kind words, it has really been a pleasure to have been involved
with the project and to get to know so many wonderful Texas cavers. I'm sure
someone else will step up and bring some fresh ideas and strong hands to the
site and it will continue to be the wonderful
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