Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

2014-12-10 Thread George Veni via Texascavers
Wm, Thanks for the correction, elaboration, and support. George Sent from my mobile phone George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 F

Re: [Texascavers] [greater_houston_grotto] Support Texas Caves when Xmas shopping!

2014-12-10 Thread Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers
Linda, does the TCMA have any numbers as to how this has helped? Donations last year vs YTD this year? Thanks! Charles On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Linda Palit via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > The link from the website provides a larger percentage donation, up to > .

Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

2014-12-10 Thread Wm Shrewsbury via Texascavers
(Now at home and able to perhaps reply) Speaking on behalf of the NSS Board we agree with everything George Veni has posted below concerning KIP, its purpose, and how they handle their material. I must make one clarification though: the NSS did not sent any Grotto newsletters to KIP. The collecti

Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

2014-12-10 Thread George Veni via Texascavers
Mark and everyone, I've been traveling and haven't had the chance to check the KIP website. I called the KIP team to get the latest details but haven't been able to connect yet, so here is what I know so far. KIP does not post anything unless it is described as open access (available freely to

Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

2014-12-10 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
For whatever it's worth, I had nothing to do with sending Huntsville Grotto News issues to KIP. Haven't been in Windy City for 34 years. Does seem like a bit presumptuous for one grotto to submit another grotto's newsletters unless in cooperation with the other grotto. I've never been a sec

Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

2014-12-10 Thread Alex Sproul via Texascavers
I discovered that posting this morning, too. I think it's KIP that is overreacting by removing ALL grotto newsletters; the issue was just raised in the past few days by Huntsville, based on a member who discovered the KIP trove and worried about sensitive info in older issues. I'm not aware of

Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

2014-12-10 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
RD, It would be fine with me if any organization that wanted one could have a private members area. Once KIP got set up for that, it should be pretty simple to offer it to anyone. Still sort of defeats the purpose of open access, though. Generally speaking, cave location information is not cons

Re: [Texascavers] [greater_houston_grotto] Support Texas Caves when Xmas shopping!

2014-12-10 Thread Linda Palit via Texascavers
The link from the website provides a larger percentage donation, up to .05% I think. Smile is .005% but can also be used at same time as link from TCMA page. Thanks to all using these methods of donation. Linda Palit On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, Chris Lafferty via Texascavers < texascavers@texa

Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

2014-12-10 Thread R D Milhollin via Texascavers
Mark, My understanding is that the KIP is an international repository, so the "member's only" access limitation you suggest would have to be extended to all nation's "National" Speleological Association in order to be fair. Perhaps the NSS Archives Committee could be encouraged to set up a simil

Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek Cave Tank Hauls, Jan 2015

2014-12-10 Thread Ellie Watson via Texascavers
Cavers, The Honey Creek Cave Tank Haul is almost here and I only have 15 people committed for both weekends combined. We need tons more than that. If you are committed to come, I need you to please contact me by email or fb message with the dates you will be there. We need as much help as we can g

[Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

2014-12-10 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
George, According to the Karst Information Portal home page, grotto newsletters are soon to be withdrawn from open access. That seems like addressing the potential problem of location information with a sledgehammer. What's the point of having things on KIP if no one can get to them? Maybe they