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From: Don Cooper
To: Mike Flannigan
Cc: o...@texascavers.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
And LET ME - Not David Locklear this time - make this assertion/prediction:
If you think your electric bill is high now
And I heard on the news this morning that by 2010, gas will be $7-10/gal.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:54:08 -0500From: wavycaver@gmail.comTo:
mikeflan@att.netCC: ot@texascavers.comSubject: Re: RE: [ot_caving] an option to
drillingAnd LET ME - Not David
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:54:08 -0500
From: wavyca...@gmail.com
To: mikef...@att.net
CC: o...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
And LET ME - Not David Locklear this time - make this assertion/prediction:
If you think your electric bill is high now - just
...@texascavers.com
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And I heard on the news this morning that by 2010, gas will be $7-10/gal.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:54:08 -0500
From: wavyca...@gmail.com
To: mikef...@att.net
CC: o
This was also pointed out in the story.
From: fholt@townandcountryins.comTo: power_lou...@hotmail.com;
wavyca...@gmail.com; mikeflan@att.netCC: ot@texascavers.comDate: Fri, 27 Jun
2008 15:02:15 -0500Subject: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
Our incomes will not increase
That is the same media who tells us every couple months
about cars that run on water. What morons.
Mike
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:
Very interesting. I knew that we don't make hydrogen, but that's the
term the media uses when reporting it.
And LET ME - Not David Locklear this time - make this assertion/prediction:
If you think your electric bill is high now - just wait until you charge up
your car every night with house current!
I will bet that you're looking at a $500 per month increase (above your $200
to $300 per month bill) if
a living. Apparently waste cooking oil is the new
gold. Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:10:29 -0500 From: wavyca...@gmail.com To:
power_lou...@hotmail.com CC: qui...@clearwire.net;
fh...@townandcountryins.com; o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] an
option to drilling What makes ISOLATING hydrogen
their neighbors when they allowed the government to erect hundreds and
hundreds of wind machines as far as they eye could see. His point was that he
thought this is a fad industry which would fall by the wayside and, when wind
power was no longer useful, there would be all those machines
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From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:05 AM
To: Don Cooper
Cc: qui...@clearwire.net; Fritz Holt; o...@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
Heard a couple of interesting stories on the news this weekend
...@clearwire.net; Fritz Holt;
ot@texascavers.comSubject: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
“Heard a couple of interesting stories on the news this weekend and this
morning. One was on the wind farms in West Texas. Apparently a lot of ranchers
are leasing their land to the government for wind farms
Interesting concept. Out west - southwest of Houston, out in the sprawling
farmland is a Children's Home which was given a large wind-turbine many
years ago. It's long since fallen into disrepair and no longer actually
generates power. It hasn't in years. But it's still turning.
My brother
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From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:02 PM
To: rdmilhol...@charter.net; 'Don Cooper'
Cc: qui...@clearwire.net; 'Fritz Holt'; o...@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
I'm sorry, I mis-spoke. It is the power companies funding
What makes ISOLATING hydrogen expensive is the energy cost.
(You do not make hydrogen. It is the most abundant element in the
universe. Yes, you probably know that anyway)
If you consider free energy such as tidal forces - (something that's
only just beginning to be harnessed - think 'wind
Fritz,
My complaint is that we started after many and did not devote enough government
resources to it. Most of Europe did. Even Spain was ahead of us at one time and
still is I think. We lost sight of the OPEC oil problem in a hurry. There is a
new company in Idaho? (if my memory is right)
KWh:kilowatt hour or 103 W·h
MWh: megawatt hour or 106 W·h
GWh: gigawatt hour or 109 W·h
TWh: TeraWatt hour or 1012 W·h
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, qui...@clearwire.net wrote:
Fritz,
My complaint is that we started after many and did not devote
enough government resources to it. Most of
...@townandcountryins.com; ot@texascavers.comDate: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:56:29
-0500Subject: Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
Fritz,
My complaint is that we started after many and did not devote enough government
resources to it. Most of Europe did. Even Spain was ahead of us at one time and
still is I
...@townandcountryins.com; ot@texascavers.comDate: Sat, 21 Jun 2008
06:56:29 -0500Subject: Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
Fritz,
My complaint is that we started after many and did not devote enough
government resources to it. Most of Europe did. Even Spain was ahead of us
at one time
'no new refineries have' I think that was what the big deal was when they lost
one in Rita. Not enough capacity.
...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling Here's an idea: What about
turning all of that electricity generated by a wind turbine into hydrogen?
Right there in the wind turbine itself. Using water and electrolysis. If
hydrogen truly is going to be the portable energy source (for fuel
.
From: fh...@townandcountryins.com
To: qui...@clearwire.net; o...@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:46:03 -0500
Subject: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling
Quinta,
Wind turbines are being erected as fast as private enterprise can construct
them. I
Quinta,
Wind turbines are being erected as fast as private enterprise can construct
them. I would believe that tax incentives are given by the federal government.
You regularly see them being transported on large flatbed trucks heading west
on Interstate 10 in the Houston area. The latest issue
Plus, I'm not sure you can get enough energy from turbines to power some of the
larger cities. But, I'm not a turbine expert, so what do I know.
From: fholt@townandcountryins.comTo: qui...@clearwire.net;
ot@texascavers.comDate: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:46:03 -0500Subject: RE: [ot_caving
I work in a shop that repairs large industrial turbines.
In a few years, all of these windmills are going to have to be overhauled.
Whoever is there to get the contracts is going to make millions of
dollars. The cost of this will be paid by increases in electric bills.
We have a turbine
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