[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread S. S.
Apologies for the long post that follows. I actually wrote most of this earlier, to focus myself on the proper way forward for TiddlyWiki's Documentation. -- The thoughts below have come into focus while spending spare time reviewing documentation for TiddlyWiki

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread TonyM
Diego, Even a code mirror and visual editor setups would make usefull editions however a toc and a few other features for managing, Notating and commenting on tiddlers would help, and this could be common to editor editions. Always with a reminder of the ability to configure and enhance. Tony

[tw5] Re: uni-link plugin - displaying a subtitle or caption below the tiddler's title

2019-01-11 Thread S. S.
A small suggestion. The tiddler's *title* field is meant to display as normal (raw) text. Displaying the *title* like this is fine: <$view field="title"/> However the *caption* field is generally displayed as wikified (and so can include formatting etc.) Ref Github Issue 3624

[tw5] Re: The best of JavaScript, HTML and CSS

2019-01-11 Thread S. S.
The website's About page says: *How it worksFirst, a list of projects related to the web platform (JavaScript of course but also HTML and CSS) is stored in a database.* I do not know for sure if "*projects related to the web platform*" applies to TiddlyWiki or not. I thought it might. Ghost

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Linux. Bob Timey Wimey. When I try to run one of my existing data folders I get a series of yellow 404 messages similar to: syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - 21:38:31 11 1 2019 XMLHttpRequest error code: 404 syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - 21:38:33 11 1

[tw5] Re: How do I get this javascript working?

2019-01-11 Thread Tiddly Novice
I thought I had, but it turns out I hadn't. Fixed now. Thanks. On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 7:08:43 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > With javascript macros you don't need $:/tags/Macro > > But you do need to set the module-type field to "macro". Did you do that? > > It worked fine when I tested it.

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread Diego Mesa
I mentioned something similar in another related thread: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/GN--K_hYI-c/PVQdChI-AwAJ "We can even imagine simplifying while expanding the supported editions of TW: 1. Bare-Bones 2. Feature Rich - Comes loaded with many plugins making it

[tw5] Re: How do I get this javascript working?

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
With javascript macros you don't need $:/tags/Macro But you do need to set the module-type field to "macro". Did you do that? It worked fine when I tested it. Good luck -- Mark On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 6:27:44 PM UTC-8, Tiddly Novice wrote: > > I'm trying to use the javascript macro

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread TonyM
Adam, I do think "Editions" is the appropriate way to "package" such "Canned" solutions. We need to add some editions and promote them more directly. Regards Tony On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 5:31:00 AM UTC+11, AdamS wrote: > > I think Dave's point goes beyond example TWs. I don't think

[tw5] How do I get this javascript working?

2019-01-11 Thread Tiddly Novice
I'm trying to use the javascript macro provided here: (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/E3iJ0HDtPKk/RY5jsxeakncJ) The code for the Javascript seems to break the code formatting button for posting here. So here's the code without the code syntax button getting used: /*\ title:

[tw5] Re: Multiple TddlyWiki's and Browser Tab Management

2019-01-11 Thread TonyM
Example - use for Quick Access to Multiple locations in a Wiki ;TiddlyWiki.com key information :https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators; target=tiddlywiki> Filter Operators :https://tiddlywiki.com/#Widgets; target=tiddlywiki>Widgets :https://tiddlywiki.com/#Messages; target=tiddlywiki>Messages

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-11 Thread Riz
Hi Jed, If you have an android phone, can you test it on termux? I need to make sure that it is not an issue of my setup. I did a fresh install from scratch with the following commands git clone --depth=1 --branch v5.1.18 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.git git clone --depth=1

[tw5] Re: Multiple TddlyWiki's and Browser Tab Management

2019-01-11 Thread TonyM
Josiah, Bob protects you from the effect of the same wiki opening in many tabs if they are bob wikis. Bob does not stop you opening the same wiki in multiple tabs. The solution I proposed does. In fact this solution could even work for bob, tiddlyserver and timimi files all at once in the

Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Discord Server

2019-01-11 Thread Reece Shaw
Hey Jack, Another person reached out actually about this. I'm going to redistribute when I get home and parse it down a bit I think. I also am to a fault, neurotic in how I organize things... Please see my copied response: Hey Mario! I've actually segmented the channels in a manner that I

[tw5] Re: uni-link plugin - displaying a subtitle or caption below the tiddler's title

2019-01-11 Thread Diego Mesa
This should be part of the core!!! On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 1:52:56 PM UTC-6, R² wrote: > > Thanks a lot Jed! Problem solved after a few tweaks in my first steps :) > > Let me recap this for other newbies... > > *Basic tutorial: how to display a uni-link plugin caption below the title > in

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
AdamS wrote: > > I don't think the TW community is lacking there. There are some > amazing and exotic examples floating around. Excellent. What are examples do you recommend? Best wishes Josiah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jed I think those 3 are great for scope. One author, 3 dimensions. Its very invigorating. I hope this thread leads a step towards a concrete step to show good TW. Josiah On Friday, 11 January 2019 18:12:19 UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote: > > For example wikis I have a few that may be

[tw5] Re: uni-link plugin - displaying a subtitle or caption below the tiddler's title

2019-01-11 Thread
Thanks a lot Jed! Problem solved after a few tweaks in my first steps :) Let me recap this for other newbies... *Basic tutorial: how to display a uni-link plugin caption below the title in your tiddlers*. (1) (a) Create a new tiddler called $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/caption as you will be

Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Discord Server

2019-01-11 Thread Jack Baty
I just joined, thanks for setting up the server. I love the idea! That said, my first impression was one of being a bit overwhelmed. I feel that you may have done a bit of premature optimization with the channels :). Do you think it would helpful, especially for newcomers, to reduce the number

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread AdamS
I think Dave's point goes beyond example TWs. I don't think the TW community is lacking there. There are some amazing and exotic examples floating around. If I'm understanding Dave's point correctly, we should have "empty" TWs available that are roughly optimized for certain tasks. They come

[tw5] Re: Deep Link in TiddlyDesktop?

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
I recommend using Timimi plugin with firefox. https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/ https://github.com/ibnishak/Timimi/releases Cheers Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Discord Server

2019-01-11 Thread Reece Shaw
Hey Mario! I've actually segmented the channels in a manner that I think would be useful for specific topics as someone who is pretty new to utilizing TW, CSS and HTML. Large discord populations become confusing with multiple people having separate conversations so I thought it might be useful

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-11 Thread Jed Carty
I just put out a bug fix release, so 1.2.1 is up. The changes are just fixing bugs. Thanks to mklauber for contributing to this release. It is marked as a prerelease to see what sort of horrible bugs pop up next. It should fix the bugs mentioned here except for the one where changing the

[tw5] Re: uni-link plugin - displaying a subtitle or caption below the tiddler's title

2019-01-11 Thread Jed Carty
Make a tiddler that has your caption in it, it looks like you already have that. In your caption tiddler make a field called list-after and put $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title in that field. That should do what you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[tw5] Re: Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-11 Thread D X
Hi Mark, Every language I've worked in (I know TW is not a language per se, although it does have many language-like features like loops, conditionals, references, substitution, and look-up) has first-class (i.e., usable anywhere and arbitrarily nestable) support for string manipulation and

[tw5] Re: uni-link plugin - displaying a subtitle or caption below the tiddler's title

2019-01-11 Thread
I shouldn't be too far off as sliding the tc-tiddler-caption div below the tc-tiddler-title div on Chrome's inspection tool brings me the exact result I am looking for: [image: Displaying caption below title 2.png] Any hints on that last step? Thanks, R² -- You received this message

[tw5] Re: uni-link plugin - displaying a subtitle or caption below the tiddler's title

2019-01-11 Thread
I guess I should provide more detail... Basing myself on $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title, I created a $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/caption tiddler, tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate and with the following content: <$list filter="[all[current]!prefix[$:/]]"> <$view field="caption"/> I reckoned that by

[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Discord Server

2019-01-11 Thread PMario
Hi Reece, I just joined the server, but I'm completely confused. There are 14 text channels, that overlap each other quite a bit. ... eg: How is "css-help" different to "TW5 help" or "general-questions". Same with "html-help" and "TW5 help". ... There is a "general-chat" and "off-topic"

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread Jed Carty
For example wikis I have a few that may be interesting: A interactive fiction game: http://zorklike.tiddlyspot.com Documentation for a server (it is incomplete, but the idea is there): https://www.ooktech.xyz:8443/SecureNodeServer A photo gallery demo:

[tw5] Deep Link in TiddlyDesktop?

2019-01-11 Thread Marc J. Cawood
After running TW Classic for nearly a decade under AppJS the saving function stopped working so I took another look at TW5 and have managed to get my Wiki up and running with saving using TiddlyDesktop. However, I have to launch TD and then my TW so my question is: can I create a desktop

[tw5] uni-link plugin - displaying a subtitle or caption below the tiddler's title

2019-01-11 Thread
Dear all, I am toying around with the uni-link plugin and finding the features very useful but I would like to display the caption or subtitle immediately below the tiddler's title (and above the date and tags): [image: Displaying caption below title.png] Transcluding the tiddler caption

[tw5] Re: TW for writers: How to concatenate the contents of different tiddlers in one tiddler?

2019-01-11 Thread Jed Carty
I think that a custom exporter would be much more useful than collecting a bunch of tiddlers into one tiddler and then exporting that. You could leave your tiddlers split up and then export them in order into a .txt file so you don't have to do the copy and paste things. That is probably why

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Dave I agree that having Example TW to show would be great. Where are they when we need them? :-) Josiah On Friday, 11 January 2019 16:05:54 UTC+1, Dave wrote: > > Maybe the "Tiddlywiki foundation" could pick several instances of TW > specialized uses and turn them into node-included

[tw5] Re: Logistics 101 -- How to promote Tiddlywiki?

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > Have you tried from a different email provider? > Its bizarre. My email here is an alias in a Google "domain account" ... why its bouncing only on first post to GG remains obscure to me and everyone I asked so far. Previously it worked fine. What I don't like is it weakens

[tw5] Re: TW for writers: How to concatenate the contents of different tiddlers in one tiddler?

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thomas Elmiger wrote: > > > I might have the perfect tool ... > > The general idea is: you collect all your tiddlers in the story river > Then we [you] remove all unwanted elements from the story river... And you > can copy the whole text from the story river and paste it in any other >

[tw5] Re: Query -- Is TiddlyWiki a personal notebook?

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 12:37:14 PM UTC-8, Thomas Elmiger wrote: > > * a comic style starting page on tiddlywiki.com > I've noticed this on other sites. Is this a marketing trend? * a podcast Could that be sustained? What would we talk about? > One last thing not included with

[tw5] Re: The best of JavaScript, HTML and CSS

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Most everything I see there are frameworks and libraries for JS -- not actual products like TW. It's more like "best tools for using JS" than "best things made from JS". -- Mark On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 4:18:16 AM UTC-8, S. S. wrote: > > > I am wondering why TiddlyWiki is not listed

[tw5] Re: Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
That's right Mark. Thank you. On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 6:53:17 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote: > > I forgot case #4, I'll finish it up: > > The filter sees: > > "[[a b]] +[addprefix[mr-fadeIn-]]" > > "[[a b]]" looks like a single tiddler with title "a b", and the macro > performs the prefix: >

[tw5] Re: The best of JavaScript, HTML and CSS

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
Hi S. S., Thank you for sharing. I expect to have TW somewhere in top of list. By the way this site gives some good hints on hot and useful libraries. Cheers Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [tw5] Re: Program flow: how to store a variable in a field without user intervention?

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
Many Thanks Mark. I bookmark this. Cheers Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[tw5] Re: TW for writers: How to concatenate the contents of different tiddlers in one tiddler?

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
How is creating the single tiddler better than just copying the text of your output tiddler and pasting it into a word processor? The temptation, once you put everything into one tiddler, is to start making changes to that output tiddler. But then your changes will be lost to your workflow. If

[tw5] Re: Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I forgot case #4, I'll finish it up: The filter sees: "[[a b]] +[addprefix[mr-fadeIn-]]" "[[a b]]" looks like a single tiddler with title "a b", and the macro performs the prefix: mr-fadeIn-a b -- Mark On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 6:51:53 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > #1 Works as expected

[tw5] Re: Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
Thank you Mark. Thanks Jed. Cheers Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[tw5] Re: Logistics 101 -- How to promote Tiddlywiki?

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Have you tried from a different email provider? On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 5:43:27 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > For reasons no one understands my first posts to GG don't get to the email > group. > > Here is a note about promotion I wrote... > > On Friday, 11 January 2019 14:13:09

[tw5] Re: Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I don't understand the "Lack of String Manipulation" either. Writing filters or macros for these standard tools would not be that difficult. I can only assume there is some philosophical reluctance. Perhaps because filters are supposed to work on *Titles*, not *strings*, and changing a Title's

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread Dave
Maybe the "Tiddlywiki foundation" could pick several instances of TW specialized uses and turn them into node-included snap packages? (Yes, Linux only, but it's a start...) TW for notes TW for writing TW for photo gallery etc... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[tw5] Re: Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread Jed Carty
Mohammad, I don't see how that is unexpected behaviour. You are giving one title in [[a b]] in that context. The [[ and ]] show it as one title, it is the same as if you used Hello +[addprefix[xx-]] as the filter. It is a list of one title as input followed by something to do on that title.

Re: [tw5] Re: Program flow: how to store a variable in a field without user intervention?

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Mohammad, I don't see anywhere that a widget is passed as a parameter to another widget. I guess you mean: actions=<> because create-commentTid CONTAINS widgets. But wrapping it in a macro first causes it to be rendered before being passed. I guess I should say that a widget attribute

[tw5] Re: Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
#1 Works as expected #2 The filter sees: "a b +[addprefix[mr-fadeIn-]]" So thus two outputs. #3 Wikitext is not a cannibal. It does not eat other wikitext! ;-) The text is rendered as a link and then passed. The rendering html code is stripped and it becomes like case #2. That's my

[tw5] Re: Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
Thank you S. S. As you explained: - For case i and ii, I expect the same result as the current output by TW. - The third and fourth case are strange for me @Jed Thank you Jed, see the below case \define mac(p) <$list filter='[<__p__>] +[addprefix[xx-]]'> item: <> \end <> --- <$list

[tw5] Re: The best of JavaScript, HTML and CSS

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
S. S. That is a very good observation. Josiah On Friday, 11 January 2019 13:18:16 UTC+1, S. S. wrote: > > > I am wondering why TiddlyWiki is not listed here: https://bestofjs.org/ > > And if it were listed, which TAGS used in that site would be placed on a > TiddlyWiki listing. > -- You

[tw5] Re: Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread Jed Carty
Your third one is incorrect. [[a b]] is one title, "a b", not two titles. you can see what I mean if you use this: <$list filter='[[a b]]'> item: <> if you put in each of your filters than you can see the differences. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[tw5] Re: Logistics 101 -- How to promote Tiddlywiki?

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
For reasons no one understands my first posts to GG don't get to the email group. Here is a note about promotion I wrote... On Friday, 11 January 2019 14:13:09 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > I and several others would like to see TW better known. > > But, how, in a manageable way? (BIG issue

[tw5] Re: Logistics 101 -- Do you use Telegram?

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
For reasons no one understands my first posts to GG don't get to the email group. Here it is ... On Friday, 11 January 2019 14:34:15 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > I'm thinking that the pretty good #Twitter for #Tiddlywiki, @Tiddlywiki > and @Jermolene >

[tw5] Re: Query -- Is TiddlyWiki a personal notebook?

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Caro Thomas Very useful post. Thanks! Regarding your last slightly anxious point about getting swamped ... *I think that getting swamped by The Swarthy Hordes is unlikely. * More likely is we increase interested users. I think that matters because right now we: (1) have huge innovation; (2)

[tw5] Re: Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread S. S.
This is how I 75% understand it. >From Title List *A title list is a line of text that presents one or more tiddler titles, strung together with a space between each one and the next.If a title contains a space, it needs double square brackets around

[tw5] The best of JavaScript, HTML and CSS

2019-01-11 Thread S. S.
I am wondering why TiddlyWiki is not listed here: https://bestofjs.org/ And if it were listed, which TAGS used in that site would be placed on a TiddlyWiki listing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[tw5] Filter and Macro and Spaced delimited Parameter

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
Consider the below macro \define mac(p) <$set name=cls filter="$p$ +[addprefix[mr-fadeIn-]]"> <$text text=<> /> \end It accepts p as input parameter and adds the prefix mr-fadeIn- and return it. Now consider the below examples <> <> <> <> and their out puts mr-fadeIn-ab mr-fadeIn-a

[tw5] Re: Multiple TddlyWiki's and Browser Tab Management

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
On this one I'm unclear why one should bother? In Bob I have occasionally on one computer done two openings knowing it knows how to handle it. But normally I can't see the added value of bothering to protect from an issue that looks like sloppy practice? Not wanting to dis this. I just don't

[tw5] Re: Multiple TddlyWiki's and Browser Tab Management

2019-01-11 Thread TonyM
Mohammad I will look at pdfs and opening from multiple tabs. And will let you know. I use a wiki that acts as a directory with links to all my wikis so did not notice that. Thanks Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Diego Mesa wrote: > > JournalBook: https://journalbook.co.uk/ > > HN comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18872599 > Thanks. Very pertinent. The simplicity of Journalbook "facing

[tw5] Re: Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
Thank Mark. I am collecting these notes for future reference. Thank you for you time and help. --Mohammad On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 9:02:54 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote: > > You can use wikitext (markup with angle brackets ("<<"), or curly braces > ("{{") ) inside of widgets or other

Re: [tw5] Re: Program flow: how to store a variable in a field without user intervention?

2019-01-11 Thread Mohammad
Mark one more question: \define conc() comment on {{!!title}} \define create-commentTid() <$wikify name="ctitle" text=<> > <$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<> $savetitle="$:/temp/commentName" relationship="comment" parent=<> /> <$action-navigate $to= {{$:/temp/commentName}} /> \end

[tw5] Re: Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
D X FWIW, there is a long thread here that has useful posts about syntax and a couple of crib sheets ... https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/3DyHxqqFQbg/1JP6_DzeAAAJ Best, J. D X wrote: > > >- Hard-to-Intuit / Understand Syntax / Parsing Rules: Do I reference >something in a

[tw5] Re: TW for writers: How to concatenate the contents of different tiddlers in one tiddler?

2019-01-11 Thread Stefan Pfister
Hi Tony, Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2019 22:53:34 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM: > > Stefan, > > Eric has given you a great solution. I think others where confused as to > why you wanted to do this. When your text is broken into separate tiddlers > you can reorder them, tag them separately and more. In