[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-11-29 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao TonyM I'm replying here from a particular perspective. One of the Reluctant Crap "Forced" Programmer. I like what TW can do. I loathe having to fiddle around trying to get something done (one way around this would be to have a route to pay people to do it for me--but that is another issue)

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-08 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Tony, Is there somewhere I can "subscribe" or follow your efforts on this front? I am 100% behind this! Diego On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 4:40:51 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: > > Folks, > > I plan to start contributing to the TiddlyWiki documentation. I want to > spell out what I am keen t

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-08 Thread TonyM
Diego/Ed/Josiah , I think this thread is the only place to subscribe at this point. In my view we need to hear from a few others who have or can help integrate such documents with the tiddlywiki effort as a whole, it is best not to step on each others toes, however such waiting is often the de

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-08 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Tony, I wonder if we should ask Jeremy to let us use - tiddlywiki.com/dev-docs - dev.tiddlywiki.com - etc. That way we are actually using a tiddlywiki on GitHub. I assume that would be easiest for merging the docs back into the actual tiddlywiki.com. If we cant use that, then

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-09 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao TonyM Three points ... 1 - I do NOT encourage you to open any other forum. Not because I don't think its a good idea but simply because all attempts I seen like that have largely failed so far. The fundamental fact is there are not that many people here. We are a finite number. Though, wh

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-09 Thread TonyM
Thanks for your contribution Josiah, On your response to item 1 I agree in principal but if no one starts to act and say 5 of us worked together in a side Forum posting end product here I see no problem there. On 2 we can start work on side doco now and petition to have it referenced from tidd

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-10 Thread stefct4
Just chiming in to point out that this sounds like a very good idea. Improved, copy-and-pasteable examples would be a huge step forward. Oftentimes I read an explanation on www.tiddlywiki.com, don't quite grasp it, but wonder how much easier this might be if there was a fully usable example. I

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-12 Thread BenTremblay
Nice to see new energy! It's been painful to watch as 80/20 mediocrity has quenched / stiffled so many innitiative. (I used to use Technorati to spider certain topics / key words as a way of surveying / exploring / discovering new blogs. It's like a memory from some long gone golden age.) fair

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-13 Thread TonyM
This looks like a good Solution for Edit Contributions, to specific Tiddlers, Provide a Way to submit tiddlers would help? http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#Comments%20using%20Google%20Drive%20'Forms' Regards Tony On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 09:40:51 UTC+11, TonyM wrote: > > Folks, > > I plan

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread Mat
TonyM wrote: > > This looks like a good Solution for Edit Contributions, to specific > Tiddlers, Provide a Way to submit tiddlers would help? > > http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#Comments%20using%20Google%20Drive%20'Forms' > Kawabunga! - please, everyone, let me first make sure it still works. It

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread morosanuae via TiddlyWiki
Hello everybody, I just want to let you know that the project who seek to improve the TiddlyWiki documentation structure is not dead. It received green light from Jeremy and others and soon we should have a new docs structure. Maybe you should take this also into account. If you want to know more

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread TonyM
Mat, Thanks for the warning, Just exploring, I have not worked through the whole idea, but was thinking multiple contributions in wikitext could be submitted, collated, curated then submitted to GitHub. I would appreciate your ideas, but commenting on any tiddler requiring improved doco is o

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread TonyM
Looks great, We have the desire, the need, the volunteers, a clear image of what we want in the doco and now an improved structure. Can you explain how we would contribute using got or is that a seperate issue? Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread morosanuae via TiddlyWiki
Are you referring to contributing through GItHub? The new structure is not implemented yet, so you'll have to wait a little bit. Anyway we need good docs about contributing through GitHub, although some people are afraid of it from what I understand. This will have it's place in the "Helping the

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
moros...@yahoo.com wrote: > > some people are afraid of it from what I understand. I don't think we are afraid of it so much as non-comprehending of it. In my case I can raise a GitHub Issue (with work & a lot more restrain than my usual want). Doing a "PR" (whatever the hell that is) is someth

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread Furicle
I'm no Git guru, or big GitHub user for that matter. I do use Git a bit for my sysadmin related scripts at work, some html stuff etc. Real GitHub people please feel free to step in as needed The normal flow with GitHub as I understand it is this: 0 - create a GitHub account 1 - 'Clone' or c

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread Furicle
Perhaps this is better - the official docs https://help.github.com/articles/github-flow/ and for an 'illustrated' version of that https://guides.github.com/introduction/flow/ I can see where that's pretty intimidating for someone not used to the tools... -- You received this message because

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/
This explanation was very helpful to me. I kind of thought of clones and branches as altering a timeline in a sci fi movie, where it never goes back to the original timeline again, and gets orphaned. Now I understand it is about branching off, editing, and suggesting adding the change to the or

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread Diego Mesa
I have always had used the following interactive tutorials to teach git: - https://learngitbranching.js.org/ - https://try.github.io/levels/1/challenges/1 On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 3:48:19 PM UTC-6, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote: > > This explanation was very he

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-14 Thread TonyM
Folks, Thanks to the Git Reference materials. I have collated all Git Usage References below I will use these to discover how to submit Doco updates via Git and See if it is suitable for a wider audience, Please share your own experience with Git. Regards Tony On Wednesday, 29 November 2017

[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2018-01-11 Thread Diego Mesa
Just to revive this, I'll share a short Tiddler I've been keeping with some great explanations by Eric Shulman recently (attached). It clarifies the use of < vs << amd { vs {{ in and out of filters, and has been very helpful to me. Im not sure where something like this would go in the current

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-10 Thread Alex Hough
Hi, a suggestion made elsewhere on this group (by me) Build on top of the latest pre-release. Document your play. Then when the pre-release is released collect the play and documentation into an accompanying TiddlyZine. best Alex On 10 December 2017 at 01:42, TonyM wrote: > Thanks for your

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Alex, TonyM & all AlexHough wrote: > > Build on top of the latest pre-release. Document your play. Then when the > pre-release is released collect the play and documentation into an > accompanying TiddlyZine. > Small, slightly quibbling, footnote to Alex: I don't understand why you connec

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-10 Thread TonyM
Alex, I saw you post before about the idea of a tiddlyzine, it sounds interesting but I personally do not have a depth of understanding on this, could you outline the idea of a TiddlyZine? The trick I think is to collect contributors or lift content from Google Groups and post in a dedicated b

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-10 Thread Mat
TonyM, to save you time I'll say this: Expecting people to go to *some other web-address*, be it to some forum or a wiki, will not work. All attempts have failed, and there have been many over the past 10+ years. IMO people go here and to tiddlywiki.com. The most promising strategy I can think

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-10 Thread TonyM
Mat, I made a point of not wanting to step on each others toes, and I want to ensure this. My view is that improved documentation needs to be produced and added to TiddlyWiki.com, and where not practical references from tiddlywiki.com. There is no harm building and collating this elsewhere, es

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2017-12-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao TonyM Your thread is causing me to think. I'm feeling its really beginning to register the problem with documentation in a more move-on-able way. A few comments. To support your overview and mark a few places that maybe don't get so easily noticed ... more sociology of behaviour than a so

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

2018-03-07 Thread Igor Guida
TonyM, I agree with you. I'd like to say thank you to @Jeremy Ruston for the amazing work he did with Tiddlywiky that I love, but I never seen before a so difficult project to find doc for. It's not clear where to found it and if you find something, probably it's not up to date. Igor Il giorno