[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I think this sentence is depressing: we've adopted new prefixes for messages, classes and variables that mean > that this release will break almost all plugins and customisations created > for earlier versions. Specially the part we've adopted new prefixes for messages, classes and variables

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: > I think this sentence is depressing: > > we've adopted new prefixes for messages, classes and variables that mean >> that this release will break almost all plugins and customisations created >> for earlier versions. > > I'm

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
> > > > In terms of the details of the change, it really is as simple as the > release note says: a search and replace from tw->tc, tm and tv. I think > that that is all anyone needs to know to adapt existing code to the change. > (There are some prefixless classes that have gained the tc prefi

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Julie
To start it out, the list of all messages is in the ToC : +## [[tm-cancel-tiddler|WidgetMessage: tm-cancel-tiddler]] +## [[tm-clear-password|WidgetMessage: tm-clear-password]] +## [[tm-close-all-tiddlers|WidgetMessage: tm-close-all-tiddlers]] +## [[tm-close-other-tiddlers|WidgetMessage: tm-c

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo Apologies, I didn't mean to imply that the actual task of adapting code for 5.0.16 is trivial, just that the nature of the changes is relatively straightforward because they are regular changes. A tool that does the search and replacing may be feasible. In some cases there may still ne

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Danielo, I think you overreact. 1) TW is open source software. You don't have to pay for it and you can influence the development. Be grateful that Jeremy spend so much time in the development of TW, a piece of software that is unique. 2) TW is in beta. It means in principle everything coul

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread PMario
Hi Danielo, Breaking changes are the burden of early adopters :( On the other hand, early adopters have the real possibility to influence the product, like nobody else. So if these changes let's you abandon the scene, imo both parties lose. I think at the moment, we only have 17 days left to in

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread David Gifford
Danielo I concur with what others have said about accepting the breaking changes. This isn't the first beta version with sweeping breaking changes. I had to totally re-do TW5 mall, not only the code but the instructions, last time there was a major breaking change. I guess I better go look at t

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
> > > I think you overreact. > Probably > > 1) TW is open source software. You don't have to pay for it and you can > influence the development. > Be grateful that Jeremy spend so much time in the development of TW, a > piece of software that is unique. > > I'm very grateful. Tiddlywiki is

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
> > > > Breaking changes are the burden of early adopters :( > On the other hand, early adopters have the real possibility to influence > the product, like nobody else. > So if these changes let's you abandon the scene, imo both parties lose. > > I agree with every single word. -- You receiv

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
El miércoles, 3 de septiembre de 2014 02:29:06 UTC+2, David Gifford escribió: > > Danielo > > I concur with what others have said about accepting the breaking changes. > This isn't the first beta version with sweeping breaking changes. I had to > totally re-do TW5 mall, not only the code but t

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-03 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 8:58:09 AM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: > > > El miércoles, 3 de septiembre de 2014 02:29:06 UTC+2, David Gifford > escribió: >> >> Danielo >> >> I concur with what others have said about accepting the breaking changes. >> This isn't the first beta version with

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-03 Thread Alberto Molina
Thanks Jeremy for 5.0.15 and 5.0.16 releases! > The new features and bug fixes are listed below, but the most significant > changes are internal. In particular, we've adopted new prefixes for messages, > classes and variables that mean that this release will break almost all > plugins and cus

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-03 Thread Ton Gerner
@Jeremy, With TW5.0.15-beta it was possible to use overwritten shadow tiddlers as payload tiddlers for plugin development in the browser. With TW5.0.16-beta the original shadow tiddlers are used as payload tiddlers and *not* the overwritten shadow tiddlers. Has something changed? I tried with

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-03 Thread David Gifford
My apologies to Alberto and Danielo for confusing the two of you! I can't believe I did that... Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+u

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-04 Thread CB
Hi, I have been getting following error after upgrading to 5.0.16-beta. I think it is related to MathJax plugin from http://mathjax-tw5.kantorsite.net/ . I am aware that the plugin is for version 5.0.12-beta. But, it has been working fine till 5.0.15. So, I was wondering if there is an easy fi

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-04 Thread Eucaly J
@Ton: Guess you are referring to *TW5 tristate Sidebar * I like that very much, and also try to fix that (by my own) for TW5.0.16-beta I would suggest not to overwrite the major system shadow tiddlers such as $:/core/ui/PageStylesheet $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/sidebar because that might e

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-04 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Eucaly, Glad to hear you like my plugin. Yes, you are right: TW5 tristate Sidebar is one of the plugins I tried to upgrade. And yes, I know that overwriting shadow tiddlers has its shadow side ;-) I warn for it in my guide. As soon as I know a better way, I'll implement that. If upgrading

Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread cmari
Since I said I thought it would be "daunting" (after seeing that there were 1200 instances of "tw-" in my file), I'm coming back to report that search/replace in a text editor made things relatively easy. Half the instances of "tw-" were related to tw-scholar, so I changed those to something else

Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.16-beta

2014-09-02 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi cmari On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM, cmari wrote: > Since I said I thought it would be "daunting" (after seeing that there > were 1200 instances of "tw-" in my file), I'm coming back to report that > search/replace in a text editor made things relatively easy. Half the > instances of "tw-"