[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Yeah I actually do have system level encryption turned on, so I'm fine if someone were to physically steal my laptop but I primarily use TiddlyWiki at work connected to my work domain. I don't necessarily trust every IT user that walks in the door or is planning to leave the company. So the tec

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

No, the TiddlyFox saver is incredibly useful and is probably here to stay, given that the actual space it takes is very small. The only thing it requires is that the host has access to the page DOM, which can be accomplished several ways and has some very good use cases. I'm not Jeremy, but I do ha

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Suppose I decide to retain an old Firefox, just to run Tiddlyfox. Tiddlywiki has code to save data to the local HTML file via Tiddlyfox. Is the plan for TW5 to retain that code for a long time, or is the plan to retire that code shortly after Firefox makes TiddlyFox obsolete? i.e. If I contin

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

You can still use the default save, which saves as a download. I don't think that this ability was available in the original TWC. So you can still have your guerrilla wiki, though it takes a little more thought. Just keep clicking save whenever you need to save. When you need to start a new se

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

One of my main use-cases for Tiddlywiki is to capture my configuration when I build/rebuild a machine. In the old days, on a fresh OS, I could - login - download from tiddlywiki.com - And begin capturing my config Or I could copy my existing TW knowledge base from a backup, and capture

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 3:37:20 PM UTC+2, Jim W wrote: > > I converted over to Node.js but I guess now I've lost the ability to > encrypt all my tiddlers > ? There's a plugin >

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

RichardWilliamSmith wrote: > > As a more practical matter, do you think it will be possible to update the > main site before Firefox 57? I think it would be best for us (you) to have > a clear message on the front page about the change to previous behaviour. > Advice about usage on TiddlyFox sh

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Hi Jeremy, Beaker Browser is very interesting and will probably be the locus of lots of interesting, geeky experiments but it's not the solution we need as a community. As a more practical matter, do you think it will be possible to update the main site before Firefox 57? I think it would be b

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Ciao Jeremy There is NO Windows version of the Beaker Browser. That is a major downside. Its been "coming soon" for a very long time. We are not all Mac users. Best wishes Josiah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscrib

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Thanks for the interesting discussion. I’d just like to throw in that Beaker Browser actually makes a pretty good substitute for Firefox+TiddlyFox: https://beakerbrowser.com The confusing thing is that Beaker’s raison d’être that you’ll read about on their site is

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Ciao Arlen (1) Please post you PAYPAL link regularly here. Otherwise people here won't understand you need support. (2) Arlen Beiler wrote: I didn't write TiddlyServer for geeks :) Right. At the moment there are quite a few TiddlyDesktop users who really should convert to TiddlyServer. I don'

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Not exactly, but I am sure April Mackenzies everywhere use tiddlywiki. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Birthe C wrote: > > I for one was were happy to read that you considered a solution that was > easy enough for an old lady like myself to use. > ??? Are you April Mackenzie ??? @TiddlyTweeter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

I didn't write TiddlyServer for geeks :) I just haven't gotten around to making it dead simple yet. Ok, I actually just wrote it as a static file server wrapper around Node TW5. Future versions will probably have more features. I don't really want to bundle Node since it is already so simple to

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Hi Riz, I for one was were happy to read that you considered a solution that was easy enough for an old lady like myself to use. Tiddlyserver is happily running on my Windows computer, but I have had absolutely no luck on my linux laptop. I am absolutely not technical but I just love tiddlywi

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

WRONG THREAD Do a new one in which in will tell you about textbases, evernotes and appropriate th/(m)emes. J. x On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:38:28 UTC+2, Riz wrote: > > > > > >> >>> Tiddlywiki is really mostly for 'geeks' at the end of the day :-). >>> >>> Well, I disagree, but as

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Which users are hitting problems? I'm only 1 rev behind (my general philosophy) and TiddlyFox is working fine. At what rev will TF break for sure? All this hype made me work on the batch solution. Then I updated and found that I didn't need it -- yet. I see lots of debate on solutions. If solut

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

1) TiddlyWiki is slow too if you fill it with images like OneNote 2) Ok, use WordPad instead 3) If you're thinking about managing links, you're a geek 4) If you're downloading barebones TW thanks to system restrictions, then you're going to be geeky enough to understand the default save mechanis

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Ciao Mark S. The thing you miss is NOW. A lot of users of Firefox ARE (A) hitting problems already and (B) the solutions are CLEAR already. And (C) the solutions are NOT so well documented yet for TiddlyWiki. Josiah x On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:48:13 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > To u

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 10:24:19 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote: > > > >> Tiddlywiki is really mostly for 'geeks' at the end of the day :-). >>> >> >> Well, I disagree, but as it won't add anything to the main point of >> discussion, I am not elaborating on that. >> >> > It relates to the

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

GIVE Arlen money ... or are you a cheapskate that uses his stuff for nothing, forever? Arlen Yes, I will continue to support TiddlyServer in my spare time. I > actually took off work at times to work on it, but now it is going to have > to be a spare time project unless maybe if people support

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

To use your expression, why get into combobulations for something that's not a problem yet? Why would anyone expect documentation for something that (A) isn't a problem and (B) has no well-defined solutions? That doesn't mean the group shouldn't be thinking about it, of course. Once solutions

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Ciao Mark S. You hit exactly the Catch-22. Mark S. Beginning to happen? Where? > Its OBVIOUS that Firefox 57 will cause grief. Tiddlywiki.com is NOT a medium for that updateness. @Jermolene is one person and I am unhappy seeing EVERYTHING we don't deal with being dumped on him. In any case

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Ciao Stef ... > ste...@gmail.com wrote: With TiddlyDesktop, you download and install one > set of binary files and you're done. > I AGREE. If TiddlyServer could be packaged like that then the issue would be done. It probably could be. TiddlyDesktop was essentially exactly that: an installab

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 3:57:06 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Just use TiddlyServer. > > Why get into combobulations you don't need when Arlen made a replacement > already? > This is no problem for me personally, as I'm running TiddlyWiki in all kinds of incarnations already (

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

> > Tiddlywiki is really mostly for 'geeks' at the end of the day :-). >> > > Well, I disagree, but as it won't add anything to the main point of > discussion, I am not elaborating on that. > > It relates to the conversation in terms of the question: How much technical interest can we expect

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 6:53:01 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Ciao Mark S. > > Mark S: ... TiddlyWiki.com. It has instructions for saving that work fine. >> > > NO it doesn't for what is beginning to happen now. > Beginning to happen? Where? Hasn't happened yet. Solutions a

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Just use TiddlyServer. Why get into combobulations you don't need when Arlen made a replacement already? ste...@gmail.com wrote: > > > since TiddlyDesktop is based on NW.js, I wondered whether building a new > TiddlyDesktop version with most recent NW.js might fix this issue (but > maybe it's

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Ciao Mark S. Mark S: ... TiddlyWiki.com. It has instructions for saving that work fine. > NO it doesn't for what is beginning to happen now. My opinion of your opinion is its (a) loading up @Jermolene with too much work and (b) Tiddlywiki.com on stuff like this is nearly always out of date.

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

I converted over to Node.js but I guess now I've lost the ability to encrypt all my tiddlers ? There's a plugin to manually encrypt tiddlers but it looks abandoned without the importan

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

There is a central location. It's called TiddlyWiki.com. It has instructions for saving that work fine. It's just that you're anticipating a future problem. Clearly the crop of work-arounds for that future problem are still in discussion, so it would be superfluous (at last, after 30 years I ge

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Didn't I see something somewhere suggesting that TiddlyDesk would no longer be developed? On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 5:55:54 AM UTC-7, ste...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 6:22:36 AM UTC+2, JWHoneycutt wrote: >> >> >> 5) TiddlyDesktop is my one and only savio

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 3:19:11 PM UTC+2, ste...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Yes, I encountered such problems as well. However, since TiddlyDesktop is > based on NW.js, I wondered whether building a new TiddlyDesktop version > with most recent NW.js might fix this issue (but maybe it's n

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 3:10:47 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > > The main problem you will get over time with TiddlyDesktop is that the > "rendering engine" is out of date so more modern designed pages that use > the later CSS will begin to break down in TiddlyDesktop as the und

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

TiddlyDesktop is RETIRED, I believe. TiddlyServer, effectively, replaces it. The main problem you will get over time with TiddlyDesktop is that the "rendering engine" is out of date so more modern designed pages that use the later CSS will begin to break down in TiddlyDesktop as the underlying

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 6:22:36 AM UTC+2, JWHoneycutt wrote: > > > 5) TiddlyDesktop is my one and only savior - it is the ONLY way I > currently know how to reliably update a tiddler, save to Dropbox, and find > it later. > I like TiddlyDesktop, and I think it might be a fairly acces

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

> > >> 2. The opening HTML is replaced by a TW itself. It should show links to >> the various TW as it does now. In addition, that tiddlywiki should also >> have a control panel, which would allow the user to new TW paths, and >> modify settings. It won't be hard to cook up a button that wil

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 7:54:55 AM UTC-4, RichardWilliamSmith wrote: > > ...imagine telling someone "oh, right, you've accidentally nested a list >> of all your notes inside a list of all your notes, so your 'wordprocessor' >> crashed. Just restart it and figure out a way to delete

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

> > On the other end of debate is people who do not have the necessary admin > privileges to install node js on their system. -- Riz You can copy the node.exe file into the TiddlyServer (downloaded from the releases page) or TiddlyWiki directory (downloaded from the main code page) and then every

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

> > 1. Consider packing it to deb/exe/whatever-mac-uses formats. The installer > should ideally place necessary shortcuts and menu entries in the > corresponding folder to each OS. > Excellent idea. I started researching how we might do that. My best guess so far is nexe: https://github.com/ne

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

It is time to consider user friendliness of the solutions too. For those who are used to TW and can find their way around a problem, these solutions will do. However, can you imagine telling someone knew stuff like: "Oh, and by the way, the only way to save it, is to download a new copy every

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

This is OPINION. Its obvious we have MANY methods to save TW. Perhaps the single biggest issue is lack of a RESOURCE POINT that DOCUMENTS in detail how to set them up. The current situation is a good example, IMO, where lack of centralisation makes its very difficult for newbies to: (a) under

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

@ Mark S I remember simple batch files, and appreciate how this is not that different. Except that this feels entirely different. > Here's all that's needed to launch TW as an app. >>> >>> Put this script as a text file in your default download directory and >>> name as "launch_tw.ps1" >>> >

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Tiddlyserver is great. Thanks very much for the work you've done on it. It's worked flawlessly for me so far. In my opinion, the 'default' saving mechanism is badly flawed to the extent that there is no auto-save. That's enough to stop me from using it. At the moment, I do all my writing in Tid

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

My bad, I see I misunderstood you. Yes, I think having many options available to us is a good thing. TiddlyServer will serve any file in any directory it is told to serve. Whether or not it will have the correct content-type header is another matter, but if it doesn't, please feel free to open an

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

I didn't say setting up TiddlyServer was so hard. I said that setting up a batch file is no harder than setting up a server. Multiple options is always a good thing. I'm trying to point out that there is nothing intrinsically wrong with the default save mechanism. Each approach is likely to ha

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Hi Mark, I'm wondering why you think TiddlyServer is hard to set up. I'm curious if you've tried it yet, and if you have, I would be happy to answer any questions you have and/or walk you through the setup, since it will help me know how to write the documentation. How can I help you use TiddlyServ

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

I forget that a lot of people find script files something mysterious. In the early days before the registry, everyone using a computer had to know about bat files when doing software installs. Here's all that's needed to launch TW as an app. Put this script as a text file in your default downl

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

>From the FirefoxESR page: "Who is it not for? Individual users who always want the latest features, performance enhancements and technologies in their browser without waiting for them to become available in ESR several development cycles later." Unfortunately I fall into that camp but the furt

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

No, I haven't. The main reason is because it keeps the file size down: 2 MB vs 80 MB. I guess there is nothing that would prevent someone from doing it, though. I am also thinking that TiddlyServer may be the permanent TiddlyFox/Chrome saving solution. It had been discussed in Hangouts, and the fi

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Mark, One of my projects is to allow the generation of batch files from tiddlers. This could ultimately allow the generation of the batch file with ease. Regards Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this gro

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

In my opinion, Tiddlyserver is the best solution. It's a really neat piece of work. You can use it to expose as much or as little of the filing system as you like and it seamlessly integrates with Tiddlywiki folders. I really think it's a great piece of work. I wonder whether Arlen has already

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

I don't understand your objection in #2. You're saying you'd rather install an entire server or application on your system rather than deal with a 5-line batch file? On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 9:22:36 PM UTC-7, JWHoneycutt wrote: > > Thank you all for the thoughtful replies. > > It seems a

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Thank you all for the thoughtful replies. It seems as though there is confusion about the best way forward. 1) TiddlyFox is going away sometime - so I don't want to get too enamored with it (Yes it is an installed add-on (Legacy) that does not work for me now) 2) @Mark S - The beauty of a solut

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Jim, I have just jumped to FireFox ESR as a portable app, Not because I was forced to, to use tiddlyfox but because most of my preferred plugins just turned legacy. As much as I would like to keep using the latest version of Firefox the current direction may not be the best. If additional secur

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

It's simple. Start with the question: What's wrong with the default save? The only thing wrong with the default save, is that it doesn't save to the original directory and file name where you started. Outside of that, you can click save all day long inside of your browser session and everything

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

How about https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/? I presume that will still work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegro

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Jim: I don't really like the idea of using something like FirefoxESR Why? Has it got diseases? Lol. Its just Firefox that lags behind on cutting edge. But it has full security updates. Once 57 fully comes in it will be the ONLY Mozilla supported Firefox left that will run TiddlyFox. It should

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Ciao Mark S. & all, Three quick points ... 1 - *Firefox is not over till spring NEXT year (my point), and worth underlining*, I think. 2 - TiddlyServer is definitely the easiest route after that (I think something you'd agree with, Mark?) 3 - Your batch system for saving I read about before.

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

You can also use the default save mechanism. Works every time everywhere. To make it more convenient, you then use a simple batch launch script whenever you start up (just like a regular desktop app). I've made one for Windows (I have another post about it). I'm confident that one could be made

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

TiddlyFox cannot be updated unless Mozilla change their API which there is NO sign they will do. I wrote an overview post concerning keeping your Firefox going till at least spring next year .

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

To the best of my knowledge, there is no planned replacement for TiddlyFox (Jeremy, please correct me if I'm wrong). The extension mechanism that TiddlyFox relies on will be removed from Firefox when version 57 gets here. The mechanism that replaces it will not support the functionality needed t

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Forgive my ignorance, I've looked for some kind of consensus on what happens when TiddlyFox stops working when Firefox 57 gets here but haven't really found one. For a long time TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox user what's the best course of action if I'm not willing to give up standard Firefox (I don't re

[tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

Hi, Tiddlyfox is slated to stop working altogether with Firefox 57 and they might be preparing you for that eventuality by disabling it. If you goto "about:addons" (type it in the address bar) do you see Tiddlyfox listed as running? (it should say 'legacy' but it might also be disabled by defau