Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-06-21 Thread Paul Netsaver
Hi, maybe it was a wrong impression, but my understanding was that javascript code, in addition to being avoided in html tiddlers, has to be executed before DOM creation, so cannot be propagated (or not resolved) up to the end of the chain, so to be executed by the browser after TW rendering. Th

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-26 Thread TonyM
Josiah, Mark, I thought of doing something similar for PDF files I may drop on a wiki, add subjects or keywords to fields in the PDF tiddler such that a search can find the tiddler (containing the PDF). I have just built a subjects alternative tag field using GenTags. And will test it soon.

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-26 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi TT, How would you annotate text? In terms of size, a possibility is to externalize a text by chapter, half-chapter, whatever is appropriate in an iframe. Then pack the unique keywords into the tiddler so that it can be found in searches. So TW has the meta data and can display the text. --

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-26 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Another thought about EPUBs--those that use public domain materials and have open licenses, of which there are a lot--is to deconstruct them into TW. The advantage of E-book is often a lot of care went into the logical design. So, in some ways, they can be better than raw Gutenberg et al as sou

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-26 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jeremy EPUB3 is a very interesting "standard" in its "lag" from the relentless drive-on of the web. Not least because, I think, for the good reason of longevity. E-pubs are not on the cutting edge. The thinking embracing a more "book-wise" sense of being in for the long-haul without too ma

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-26 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Jeremy, Might be a difference between the Apple and the non-Apple world. As an early adopter, my old kindle has a back key. The Paperwhite has a back arrow that gets activated when the top of the screen is touched. The kindle on android can use the system "back" key to return from a visited

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tony > What you propose would be very helpful, however I was thinking it may be > quicker and easier to hand the creation of the alternate static views to the > user, but provide a way to "overlay them" in a dynamic design so that they > appear in the static HTML output. This would possibly

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Dear Paul > I can see that Epub3 format can execute also scripts in JS subfolder. JavaScript support is inconsistent and limited on current readers, hence my interest in techniques to avoid dependence on it. > Why is not technically possible to write JS code in some tiddler belonging to > epub

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mark > The thing with redundant copies is, wouldn't the user have to use the back > key? Or a "return" link? And how would you hide those redundant copies? EPUB readers do not in my experience typically offer a “back” button, but rather navigation via the “spine” of the book (an ordered list

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-25 Thread TonyM
Jeremy, You mention > One aspect that particularly interests me is the production of redundant > static pages to reproduce the functionality of a dynamic experience. For > example, consider a table of a few columns of data that we’d like to > publish such that the user can click on a column he

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-25 Thread Paul Netsaver
I think that this kind of dynamic simulation could offer some possibilities with a small number of combinations only. By the way, imagine that in the rendered html containing tables one wants to use an external pure js pagination library. I can see that Epub3 format can execute also scripts in JS

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-25 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The thing with redundant copies is, wouldn't the user have to use the back key? Or a "return" link? And how would you hide those redundant copies? -- Mark On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 9:58:47 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote: > > Jeremy Ruston wrote: >> >> [...] pre-generate static HTML representations of ever

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-25 Thread Mat
Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > [...] pre-generate static HTML representations of every combination of > sorting for the table, and then construct links between them. So, if the > initial rendering is ordered by first name, and the user clicks on the > column for the second name, they would actually be

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-25 Thread Mat
Mark S. wrote: > > Is there code in the core already to make static pages? Or only in the > node version? > C'mon Mark, you know there is. Tiddler toolbar > Export tiddler (static html) <:-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To u

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-25 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Is there code in the core already to make static pages? Or only in the node version? Thanks! -- Mark On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 1:43:28 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > I very much like the idea of an epub3 output format for TW5. > > As others have noted, the epub3 format itself can be fairly

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
I very much like the idea of an epub3 output format for TW5. As others have noted, the epub3 format itself can be fairly simple (plus the general rule that it is always orders of magnitude easier to generate a particular format than it is to parse/accept that format). We already have a JSZip pl

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread Greg Davis
Mark S. Hi, Well if it is Science Fiction there is always Baen official slush for publication http://baen.com/ If you have not given it to a beta reader and/or editor. You can try the crit forums on Baen's Bar (have to register) the Slush Pile is for general critiques. Other critique forums a

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
You could use node to create a static version. Then import into Calibre. Edit/Clean up. Tweak meta-data. Convert to epub. That sounds like a lot of work, but it's a doable process with (mostly) known steps. I suspect it would be much faster than waiting for someone to write a plugin. The exce

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I guess we're all in the same boat. I've got one medium story finished, but wasn't sure where to submit it. -- On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:44:58 PM UTC-7, Greg Davis wrote: > > Tony > > GO FOR IT ! ! > > Hey, I was IT. Life interrupted but I am trying to get back to the project > I started a

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread Greg Davis
Tony GO FOR IT ! ! Hey, I was IT. Life interrupted but I am trying to get back to the project I started along time ago. First drafts and notes scattered all over. Wish I'd had TiddlyWiki back then to keep track of everything. Best Wishes, Greg On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:12:04 PM UTC-5, To

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread Greg Davis
Hi, Kind of stopped pursing Epubs as got more into TiddlyWiki, but a few notes: Epub3 features are not all backward compatible with epub2 devices / apps and there is a large numer of old epub2 devices / apps. Some may require NCX file. EPUB 2 is XHTML 1.1, CSS 2, UTF-8 encoding Most devices / a

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread TonyM
Josiah, The incentive is very powerful for a sub-sector of users, when I was younger I wanted to be a cosmologist and science fiction writer. An IT career happened instead. Only recently I started to think about writing again because I could build a universe, a solar system and a number of pl

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread Jed Carty
I think that making something to convert from tiddlywiki to epub format wouldn't be too terribly difficult. An epub is pretty much a zip file that contains a set of html files and some metadata so using the static html export for tiddlers would already do the rendering work. I think that you wo

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
I sort of suspect TiddlyDesktop could be refactored as TiddlyBook. On Friday, 25 May 2018 00:14:39 UTC+2, Paul Netsaver wrote: > > Hi > how much would be difficult to export a selection of tiddlers in the epub > open format? > Basically it is a collection of html files with a structure defined,

[tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

2018-05-24 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
It's an interesting question. IS TW already an e-book? Export to common e-book formats would need be mainly via static HTML. You would lose much, most that TW does. Using TW to help produce e-books in other formats would be possible, I think, quite easy. But I find it hard to see the incentive