The switches I've replaced in my Dana 1990 failed with the rubber cracking
around the
part that provides the spring. I think the first one that failed was
shorted (which caused
me to think that the processor was confused, as no other buttons worked
until I found
the one stuck down). So at least
Thanks for the link, interesting site.
Cheers
Rob K
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Subject: [time-nuts] DIY Physics Article
Here is a recent DIY
Rather then a simple lock LED I think what would be interesting if possible to
place a CCD next to a Rubidium or Cesium cell to view the luminance at the
hyperfine transiton. I am sure someone has done this but I have not seen it.
Thomas Knox
From: robkimber...@btinternet.com
To:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 08:23:34AM -0500, James Robbins wrote:
Hello Andrea,
Thanks for your insight into repairing Racal 1992 switches. Could I
ask for more detail about which 6x6mm tactile PCB switches you
actually used? Also, any more detail about what part of the switch
needed tape?
Hi
I've often wondered if there are actually more than two people selling all
of the FE's being auctioned. There's not much of a way to tell. I've had
orders from various sellers come in combined for shipping over the years.
I've had an interesting time with one order from Nichegeek. It took a
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote:
Hi
I've often wondered if there are actually more than two people selling all
of the FE's being auctioned. There's not much of a way to tell.
The only way I can figure is to look at the location they ship from.
If the photos and
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:14:34 -0700
Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote:
Rather then a simple lock LED I think what would be interesting if possible
to place a CCD next to a Rubidium or Cesium cell to view the luminance at
the hyperfine transiton. I am sure someone has done this but I have not
At 12:12 PM 2/22/2012, Chris Albertson wrote:
The only way I can figure is to look at the location they ship from.
My last package from nichegeek has a UPS label from Sain Store, Dong
Guan Sunrain e-commerce center, building 7 Songke Yuan in Dongguan.
--
newell N5TNL
Hi
I have had orders combined by sellers who listed different cities as their
locations...
Bob
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To: Discussion of precise time
Hmm in interesting prospect. However its unclear to me as to the benefit of
trying this. I do know what gets lost. Its not just a dimming of the light
1-2% as stated its also the modulation on the light beam. I think 286 Hz
thats critical to locking the system.
So the ccd is very capable of
It might even be simpler than that.
Same pictures, same location, same business; different ebay stores for each
sales rep - paid on commission or by the piece.
Perhaps the next time I buy something from overseas I will ask.
Sometimes there is a bit of struggle with language but for the most
The trend with Rb clocks is to try and make then smaller and cheaper.
If all you need to do is detect the amount of light a one-pixel sensor
is enough. If you divide the sensor into multiple pixels you just get
more noise because fewer photons fall on each pixel. So a
photo-transisor is ideal
I was thinking you could view it through fiber
Thomas Knox
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:19:57 +0100
From: att...@kinali.ch
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article)
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:14:34 -0700
Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:57:01 -0800
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the next generation of Rb physics packages will use a laser as
the light source and have the laser, Rb cell and detector all in one
glass envelope. I've seen one like this that is just tiny. But as I
The 8170 isn't smart enough to calculate the leapsecond immediately.
Instead, it uses its error correction routine which takes about 4
minutes after the event to realize that it is one second off, then
updates the time to match. Details quite far down the page at
That is interesting, I spoke with a friend at NIST and they were still using
discrete components on the prototypes developed as part of the CSAC for
symmetricom. Coherent population must have been how they made a very labor
intensive prototype affordable. My thought on a CCD were directed more
The MINOS Collaboration has made progress in its effort to use the Fermilab to
Soudan MN neutrino beam to investigate the effect reported by the OPERA
Collaboration of neutrinos travelling faster than the speed of light. The
current MINOS methodology has two parts: (1) to retrospectively
Hi,
(sorry to Tvb for stealing a good subject line)
I'm just getting into clocks and oscillators, so please excuse any
ignorance. I like probably many new list watchers saw Dave Jones of
EEVBlog fame with his used FE-5680A and thought - geez I didn't realize
those were so cheap, I'd like an
There are 3 5061's listed on ebay at the moment. Anyone know anything about
them?
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Hi:
While learning more about the HP 5071A Cs standard came across this description of an option that uses GPS to discipline
the 5071A. Does anyone have any experience using this option?
http://www.symmetricom.com/media/files/support/ttm/product-manual/man-xl-option-hp5071-cesium.pdf
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Don Barr don.b...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
(sorry to Tvb for stealing a good subject line)
I'm just getting into clocks and oscillators, so please excuse any
ignorance. I like probably many new list watchers saw Dave Jones of
EEVBlog fame with his used
From
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/02/breaking-news-error-undoes-faster.html?ref=hp
:
BREAKING NEWS: Error Undoes Faster-Than-Light Neutrino Results
...
It appears that the faster-than-light neutrino results, announced
last September by the OPERA collaboration in Italy, was
Marvin ,
Sounds like you're making great progress on a nanosecond timing system.
Question: what are you doing with the Novatel data? Is it used to error correct
later on or are you using it to steer in near real time?
Answer: on the 5071A serial port; I issue a SYST:PRINT? command every 5
Welcome aboard,
as already pointed out here, just follow and you will learn. Of course you
are supposed to search and read about whatever catches your attention while
reading here. At times we provide URLs for a learn more action. You can
start reading the Thunderbolt manual to learn, for example,
The same seller also had some 5061B's and FTS 4065A's as well, all were
untested or in various states of disrepair. I was tempted on a few the had
missing parts not related to the Tube. Did anyone purchase any of these?
Thomas Knox
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:17:42 -0500
From:
It depends on the meaning of bad connection... was it not correctly
seated in the connector and so distant from the optical receiver? We
don't know... hope someone can tell or the experiment be repeated.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Marco IK1ODO ik1...@spin-it.com wrote:
From
Could be on the electrical side of the adapter, not the optical side. It's not
impossible to get 60 ns of phase or trigger error with RF connectors.
/tvb (iPhone4)
On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Marco IK1ODO ik1...@spin-it.com wrote:
Well, timenuts friends, how may a fiberoptic bad connection
Yes, so it can help knowing what kind of adapter is being used.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Tom Van Baak (lab) t...@leapsecond.comwrote:
Could be on the electrical side of the adapter, not the optical side. It's
not impossible to get 60 ns of phase or trigger error with RF connectors.
Marvin Marshak wrote:
We have just started operating the HP5071A cesium clocks in the last few
days and are interested in suggestions for optimal operation and
monitoring of these units. The HP5071As can be controlled and read out
via a serial connection, and
the device has many
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:01:53 -0700
Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote:
That is interesting, I spoke with a friend at NIST and they were
still using discrete components on the prototypes developed as
part of the CSAC for symmetricom. Coherent population must have
been how they made a very labor
Did anyone else notice Google's salute to Mr. Hertz today?
Steve
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Hi
Simple answers:
1) Your GPSDO is more accurate than your Rb
2) Your Rb is more stable for short periods of time than your GPSDO
3) Now you need more stuff...
Bob
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Actually I did sort of notice it but really thought it was spam
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Steve steve-kr...@cox.net wrote:
Did anyone else notice Google's salute to Mr. Hertz today?
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We routinely get asked to check the 5071A. We look at the lights and
messages. We hook up a couple counters and a couple of GPSDO's. We look at
it for a day. It's always doing what it's supposed to do..
Bob
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Neither an electrical field, nor a magnetic field will go anywhere by
themselves. Maxwell discovered that an electromagnetic wave exists when the
changing magnetic field causes a changing electric field (and vice versa)
and a wave cannot exist unless it is moving. Hertz proved the existence of
Yes, the you need more stuff is the most dangerous step. Soon you will
need a time interval counter and you'll start to hunt for an SR620.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote:
Hi
Simple answers:
1) Your GPSDO is more accurate than your Rb
2) Your Rb is more
In message 9a458dba-3875-43b2-8383-5ca2f86be...@leapsecond.com, Tom Van Baak
(lab) writes:
Could be on the electrical side of the adapter, not the optical
side. It's not impossible to get 60 ns of phase or trigger error
with RF connectors.
I don't buy that explanation.
It's very hard to get 60
Fellow Time-Nuts,
I am trying to run LH on an Alix 3D3 single-board PC:
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d3.htm
Being only a 500 MHz Geode CPU, there is not much power to work with.
Still, running Debian Linux with Wine allowed me to make LH work..
BUT: A single second tick takes about 3-4
That sort of behavior is usually traceable to USB serial port driver issues.
I have run the program just fine on a 90 MHz Fujitsu Milan laptop with passive
matrix LCD display.
-
BUT: A single second tick takes about 3-4 seconds to show up..
What about writing an active temperature controller that runs under native
Linux?
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Achim Vollhardt avoll...@physik.uzh.chwrote:
Fellow Time-Nuts,
I am trying to run LH on an Alix 3D3 single-board PC:
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d3.htm
Being only a 500 MHz
Maybe they checked the connector by replacing the whole
fiber optic cable with a new one, and while doing that
had the oh sh.. moment of realizing the length of the
old one was 20 meters different than it was supposed to be.
I think this sort of thing has happened to all of us
with significant
For a history on the color subcarrier you can try:
http://www.videointerchange.com/pal_secam_conversions.htm#3.579545 Color
Subcarrier Explained
Here in Italy, before the digital switchover, our national broadcast
company used to sync the PAL color subcarrier to a Cs reference and my
company sold
The Great American Philosopher George Wallace (racist former governor of
Alabama) supposedly said, If those university professors are so smart why
can't they park their bicycles in a straight line?
Those OPERA Collaboration scientists should hire my ex-wife. She could help
them out a lot. Her
Are you running the v3 beta? I normally run the program 24/7 on a 300 MHz
laptop here, acting as both a server for two Thunderbolts and a client.
There were some improvements to CPU utilization in the current beta, and its
UI response should be essentially instantaneous.
-- john
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Achim Vollhardt avoll...@physik.uzh.ch wrote:
Fellow Time-Nuts,
I am trying to run LH on an Alix 3D3 single-board PC:
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d3.htm
Being only a 500 MHz Geode CPU, there is not much power to work with. Still,
running Debian Linux with
http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/09/22/1841217/cern-experiment-indicates-faster-than-light-neutrinos?sdsrc=rel
Looks like they found the problem!
Didier KO4BB
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Achim wrote:
Being only a 500 MHz Geode CPU ...
A single second tick takes about 3-4 seconds to show up ... and user
interaction is painful at best
I run two copies of LH, plus two copies of a Symmetricom monitoring
program, simultaneously under Windows XP Pro on an old Dell with a
233 MHz
Being only a 500 MHz Geode CPU, there is not much power to work with.
Still,
running Debian Linux with Wine allowed me to make LH work..
Wine may not be the best platform for a somewhat-nonstandard app like LH.
Suggest buying a cheap laptop running Win2K at a hamfest for $50, and moving
on
Maybe the loose connector meant the clock at one end *never* synced with
the GPS and just happened to be 60ns fast. Tighten the connecter, clock
resyncs, problem solved.
Jim
On 23 February 2012 09:57, Rick Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote:
Maybe they checked the connector by replacing
http://www.raspberrypi.org/
I recall that this is the week they start the volume sales of the Raspberry Pi.
Perhaps a suitable controller for LH.
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The explanation is that the connector was loose, by 20 meters. Hard
to believe the signal can jump a 20 meter air gap but apparently so.
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Examples of GPSDO, rise time, impedance and trigger level:
http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/gpsdo-rise/
/tvb (iPhone4)
On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote:
In message 9a458dba-3875-43b2-8383-5ca2f86be...@leapsecond.com, Tom Van
Baak
(lab) writes:
FWIW, I'm running an Atom D510 motherboard with an 8 port serial card.
I'm using Windows 7 and VNC for remote access (the machine runs
headless). I am regularly running LH v3 beta, TimeLab (reading PPS data
from a TIC), TAC32, and GPSCon each on its own serial port
simultaneously without any
In message b81e52be-e1b5-430e-bdb0-5e54d9728...@leapsecond.com, Tom Van Baak
(lab) writes:
Examples of GPSDO, rise time, impedance and trigger level:
... But no examples of *fiber* connector being involved.
I simply don't buy the story that tightening the connector makes
a consistent 60
I think we are thinking to much. In the real world any press is good press, and
careers have been made on less, nearly everyone has heard of Cold Fusion, I
bet you could still find investors.
Thomas Knox
(and his weak sense of humor)
From: t...@leapsecond.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012
I read that the news came from sources familiar with the experiment. Is there
any official press release? Or only rumors?
Antonio I8IOV
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On the train this morning I picked up a copy of the Metro (there are usually
numerous copies on any train, as its free and does not take long to read).
There was an article about financial institutions being concerned about the time
of their clocks being purposely altered by GPS manipulation
Indeed cold fusion is here again... in Italy... google Rossi-Focardi, if
interested.
Yes, I'm actually struggling finding something about this news flash...
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:35 AM, iov...@inwind.it iov...@inwind.it wrote:
I read that the news came from sources familiar with the
Hi, Marvin
Congratulations on receiving the funding to keep the experiment alive
and to get the right equipment. I've thought of our conversation in
early November many times.
Is it coincidence that your posting arrives on the same day that a 60
nS error was found in the OPERA experiment?
Bill
Ah, Didier, that link is to a thread started in September, 2011.
Do I have to sort through the 1000+ comments to find something recent?
Bill Hawkins
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From: Didier Juges
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
The roots of Lady Heather lie in a program written in the mid 1980's for
controlling a Magellan GPS board (a multiplexed single channel receiver - Bruce
has it now). That program ran under DOS. The code is pretty much straight
ANSI C. I modified it to work with the Tbolt and added the
I saw this just before leaving home and I must admit I posted it before reading
it...
But by now everyone knows what the problem was!
Didier KO4BB
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things...
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From: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net
Sender:
Maybe I at last found something:
http://www.nature.com/news/flaws-found-in-faster-than-light-neutrino-measurement-1.10099
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:53 AM, shali...@gmail.com wrote:
I saw this just before leaving home and I must admit I posted it before
reading it...
But by now everyone
On 02/22/2012 11:26 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message9a458dba-3875-43b2-8383-5ca2f86be...@leapsecond.com, Tom Van Baak
(lab) writes:
Could be on the electrical side of the adapter, not the optical
side. It's not impossible to get 60 ns of phase or trigger error
with RF connectors.
I
Try this:
http://www.nature.com/news/flaws-found-in-faster-than-light-neutrino-measurement-1.10099
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Magnus Danielson
mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:
On 02/22/2012 11:26 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In
Try this one:
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/02/breaking-news-error-undoes-faster.html
Rick
On 02/22/12 19:42, Bill Hawkins wrote:
Ah, Didier, that link is to a thread started in September, 2011.
Do I have to sort through the 1000+ comments to find something recent?
On 02/23/2012 02:14 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote:
Try this:
http://www.nature.com/news/flaws-found-in-faster-than-light-neutrino-measurement-1.10099
Still unverified rumours level. Best article so far thought.
Cheers,
Magnus
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Italy has rewritten the laws of Physics many time throughout history. And I
am sure as our understanding increases the Laws will be rewritten many times
in the future. But sadly I do not believe this is one of those times. I googled
Rossi-Focardi and at least their device looks to have some
An interesting related paper called UTC Time Transfer for High Frequency
Trading Using IS-95 CDMA Base Station Transmissions and
IEEE-1588 Precision Time Protocol
http://www.endruntechnologies.com/pdf/PTTI2010_WhitePaper.pdf
This is the ultimate in legal insider trading machines built
Well said regarding the willingness to discuss the science in public,
Magnus. Too often we get the media wanting to hang someone for a mistake
rather than help the process of understanding. The folks at OPERA should be
commended for being open about what is going on, even if no one is ever
Hi all.
I PURCHASED THE FTS UNITS AND ONE OF THE HP5061a. Havent had time to look
at them but one of the fts powers up but i dont have any docs to figure out
what os wrong..it says ion current is 0.
Should this be that low??
On Feb 22, 2012 3:21 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote:
The same
I purchased a 5061A with all parts installed and with the FTS tube. The
5061B with the FTS tube was listed later and sold.
The unit seems to operate with good Beam I, good 2nd Harmonic, and almost
zero Ion Pump I but it will not 'lock'. I have not had a chance to look
into it yet but I suspect
Interested
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote:
I purchased a 5061A with all parts installed and with the FTS tube. The
5061B with the FTS tube was listed later and sold.
The unit seems to operate with good Beam I, good 2nd Harmonic, and almost
zero Ion
I'll do it.
I work full time and this is my hobby. So, it may be a while before I get
into it though.
Joe
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:22 PM
To: Discussion of precise
Tightening up a connector may make a few pSec difference, in terms of
absolute delay length, but it could have a very large effect if it
caused enough reflection - then the entire time-length of the cable,
or some multiple of it, would come into play.
Ed
On 2/22/12 4:38 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
On the train this morning I picked up a copy of the Metro (there are
usually numerous copies on any train, as its free and does not take long
to read).
There was an article about financial institutions being concerned about
the time of their clocks
On 2/22/12 2:26 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message9a458dba-3875-43b2-8383-5ca2f86be...@leapsecond.com, Tom Van Baak
(lab) writes:
Could be on the electrical side of the adapter, not the optical
side. It's not impossible to get 60 ns of phase or trigger error
with RF connectors.
I
Why would this (60ns error, and connector issue) have not shown up in
the time transfers and validations done by the labs cited?
Brent
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote:
On 2/22/12 2:26 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In
It sounds like you hit a home run Joe. If the tube is good the rest should be
easy. There are quite a few clean clocks with only a bad tube.
Thomas Knox
From: jlt...@att.net
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:15:59 -0600
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5061's on ebay
I
Hi Dave;
I have a Datum 4065C manual on disc somewhere if you cannot find a manual on
line.
Thomas Knox
1-303-554-0307
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:09:23 -0600
From: lasersurp...@gmail.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5061's on ebay
Hi all.
I PURCHASED THE FTS UNITS
I think so. But time will tell.
I also have some units with bad tubes and this looks promising.
Joe
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:20 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject:
At 01:35 23-02-12, you wrote:
I read that the news came from sources familiar with the
experiment. Is there
any official press release? Or only rumors?
Antonio I8IOV
Antonio, vedi Battiston su Le Scienze
sorry for previous message in Italian, had to be a personal one :-)
Marco IK1ODO
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Hi Ken,
The Rb systems require being heated to vaporize the Rb metal and to have a
stable (more or less) temperature. For the FE-5680 the 15 volt current should
run between 750 to 850 milliamps when properly heat sinked. Mine is riding
around 840 milliamps at the moment. The Rb is on the
Seems the problem is possible asymmetry in the speed of network
connections. You really can not detect this with simple pings.
But what if you send 100MB messages?Even using NTP at the tens of
millisecond level you can measure the one way speed accurately if the
message is long enough.
The illegal use of Global Positioning System (GPS) jammers in the UK has
been revealed in a groundbreaking study. Could something like this
explain the recent GPS outage reported here? See:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17119768
Cheers,
David
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On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 06:52:57PM -0500, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote:
I wrote:
Speaking from extensive experience, if you need 2 now, plan on needing
somewhere between 5 and 31 more over the next year or two.
Stewart replied:
That is my experience.
I never managed to find any exact
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:23:23 -0800
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
Seems the problem is possible asymmetry in the speed of network
connections. You really can not detect this with simple pings.
But what if you send 100MB messages?Even using NTP at the tens of
Hi
Like any other electronics, Rb's reliability decreases as temperature goes up.
There are a lot of parts in there and the vast majority do not need to be
heated. Running them hot kills them. Been there and done that with several Rb's.
Put a fan or heat sink on it. You will significantly
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:18:26 -0700, Dave hartzell wrote:
I received a few used units, and one was bad. I contacted nichegeek
via eBay with the issue and symptoms, and they are sending me a
replacement. Assuming it comes half as fast as the original shipment,
and it works, my transaction
Here is a recent DIY Physics article on eBay Rb oscillators for anyone
interested. It's probably more basic level (read my level) than many/most
on this list. But it may be interesting or useful to others here.
I would not fully trust NTP, and as already explained taking your GPS
outside as a reference for just a while is not really going to help.
But..why not using GPS inside the building? Some receivers are quite
sensitive, so probably you will not need an external antenna to pick up a
signal. Probably
Moreover most of actual GPS receivers are indoor capable (once got a lock
with the antenna outside). I have briefly tested the uBlox and the NavSync
for this feature and it works as expected.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:52 AM, pablo alvarez
pabloalvarezsanc...@gmail.com wrote:
I would not fully
There is a thread at
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/product-reviews-photos-and-discussion/racal-dana-1992-teardown/
that has some detailed pictures of the innards of the switches, by the look of
them a rubber keypad repair kit should work.
Mike,
Pretty cool site. Thanks for posting. I hadn't stumbled across that site before.
Cheers, Graham ve3gtc
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