RE: Is psychology a science?

1999-05-01 Thread Jeff Ricker
This past week, I gave my students a handout that stated the following: "In answering the following question, I would like you to state what YOU believe the answer to be, not what you think I want to hear. Some people (even psychologists) answer with a 'no', others answer with a 'yes'. Is

RE: Is psychology a science?

1999-05-01 Thread Jeff Ricker
I had another thought about this issue. Perhaps a reason why many students are skeptical of psychology's scientific status is that, as scientists, we don't try directly to answer the fundamental question most humans are interested in. This question can be put in several ways, but it typically has

Re: Is psychology a science?

1999-05-01 Thread Jeff Ricker
Earlier today, I wrote about reasons my students gave for saying that psychology is not a science. This past week, I gave my students a handout that stated the following: "In answering the following question, I would like you to state what YOU believe the answer to be, not what you think I

RE: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread Paul C. Smith
Jeff Ricker wrote: Annette Taylor posted a wonderful update describing how she attempted to explain the scientific aspects of psychology to the chemistry instructor who saw psychology as being unscientific. Nevertheless, in a second post, she seemed to take it all back by stating the

RE: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread Dr. Kristina Lewis
the world at large? Feeling discouraged... Kris Lewis Saint Michael's College Colchester VT -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IS psycho

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread RICKER
TIPSters, I take great pleasure in reporting that Annette Taylor has not "gone post- modern" on us! I am sorry, but I read the addresses incorrectly on my mail. My comments were meant for William McCown (I hope I remembered his name correctly), not Annette. Please forgive me Annette. Meekly,

RE: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread Paul Brandon
At 9:52 AM -0400 4/27/99, Dr. Kristina Lewis wrote:Well, guess what? Yesterday, last class, I brought up the question again. Most of the students believe that psychology isn't "really a science" because "humans are too variable and you can't ever really understand what causes behavior" and

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread Gary Peterson
ny hope of convincing the world at large? Feeling discouraged... Kris Lewis Saint Michael's College Colchester VT -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IS psychology a s

RE: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread Jim Clark
Hi On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Dr. Kristina Lewis wrote: I teach History of Psychology to our senior psychology majors--it is required as a "capstone" class. At the beginning of the semester we talk about what it means to say that psychology is a science, and we talk about their conceptions of

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread Mike Scoles
I begin nearly every course be asking, "What is psychology." Until students have had me for at least two courses, they skip over any mention of science. I also put it repeatedly on exams. Some students never get it. (This is even true for graduate students.) When I was interviewing for jobs,

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread Michael Sylvester
maybe! Michael Sylvester

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-27 Thread Tim Shearon
Tipsters: There is something going on with the history and systems class that it takes a long time to see (sometimes even to those who teach it!). To put it in a slightly different context, think of the course as being a problem the students are trying to solve. One of the things we teach in a

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-26 Thread Tom Allaway
With full respect to the legitimate point Annette is making, my pet peeve forces me to point out that one characteristic of science is clear communication and careful use of language. On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Annette Taylor wrote: Needless to say, and here I sit embarassed and upset, I went

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-26 Thread William McCown, Ph.D
Your experience would be pitifully funny if it weren't increasingly common. Science used to be defined in Popperian terms, as an enterprise with its goal as prediction and control. Chaos theory thoroughly destroyed that notion. Complex systems are unpredictable. Unfortunately, what the

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-26 Thread RICHARD PISACRETA
Tom Allaway: With full respect to the legitimate point Annette is making, my pet peeve forces me to point out that one characteristic of science is clear communication and careful use of language. I would like to add that some branches of psych are more scientific than others, in their

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-26 Thread RICKER
Annette Taylor posted a wonderful update describing how she attempted to explain the scientific aspects of psychology to the chemistry instructor who saw psychology as being unscientific. Nevertheless, in a second post, she seemed to take it all back by stating the following: Science used to be

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-24 Thread Charles M. Huffman
Annette Taylor wrote: Apparently not according to the "science" people at our university, particularly the chemistry dept. Our annual students research fair is today, and I have a group of students presenting a poster on research they did in a lab class with me. Imagine my

Re: Is psychology a science?

1999-04-24 Thread Michael Tagler
I hope you asked her what it is that defines a science. Depending on her answer, she may be right or wrong. I would argue that mainstream psychology is not entirely scientific. Of course, we do emphasize the use of the scientific method in most (but not all) of psychology. Having said the

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-24 Thread Paul Brandon
At 1:13 PM -0400 4/24/99, Charles M. Huffman wrote: In the past 3 years, I have taken 3 students before the committee. On each occassion, the Chemistry prof. basically attacked the scientific rigor of the psych experiment in question. Without actually making a statement as such, the implication

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-24 Thread Dave Johnson
On 24 Apr 99, at 8:59, Annette Taylor wrote: What would or what do the rest of you do when this comes up--and please don't tell me you go off like a roman candle because I don't feel like that was very effective--I think I just made an enemy instead of a convert. Dang my fiery nature.

Re: IS psychology a science?

1999-04-24 Thread Mike Scoles
Dave Johnson wrote: I ask them if the National Academy of Science represents "science." I also ask them if the journal *SCIENCE* publishes scientific papers. Or, if the know anything about that journal's beginnings! ** *