Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-10 Thread Paul Brandon
Interesting! Conan Doyle made that statement about Houdini. On Jun 9, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Christopher Green wrote: > He does all of this so apparently effortlessly that some True Believers have > claimed he is deluded about not having true psychical powers. :-) > > All in all, a very entertainin

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-10 Thread Christopher Green
er that he decides has already been resolved > conclusively? > > Scott > > > > From: Christopher Green [chri...@yorku.ca] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:38 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subje

RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-10 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
conclusively? Scott From: Christopher Green [chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:38 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem It connotes a general defensiveness about the topic

Re:[tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-10 Thread Michael Palij
On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:54:21 +, Paul C Bernhardt wrote: >Do we know exactly when Bem did the studies that were published >in JPSP? > >If he'd been doing studies for decades he could eventually have gathered >enough type 1 errors to result in the publication we saw in JPSP. I have spent only a l

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Christopher Green
It connotes a general defensiveness about the topic being discussed. Do I think that (especially experimental) psychologists are (still) defensive about anyone even asking questions about telepathy under the guise of psychological research? You bet your sweet bippy (for those who are old enough

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Gerald Peterson
He does a super show. We managed to have him visit us a few years ago and I did his Intro, but this was before his current Project Alpha show, which sounds fascinating! Would be a good show for a History and Systems class? G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU On Jun 9, 2012, at 4:45 PM

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Beth Benoit
Speaking for Chris Green (dare I do that without seeming to attempt to channel his thoughts?? heh, heh, just a little psi-humor), I have to believe that he's trying to convey that this topic is being beaten to death. (But maybe that's just because it conveys what I'm thinking.) My gmail counter i

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Jeffry Ricker
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Christopher Green wrote: > Y''know, guys, the BemBash-alooza is getting a little > methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much-ish now. The phrase, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks," usually means that a person asserts something so fervently that others infer tha

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Christopher Green
Y''know, guys, the BemBash-alooza is getting a little methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much-ish now. On related, but not so personal note, I went to see the "mentalist" who goes by the stage name Banachek last night. He was originally trained, as a teenager, by James Randi to fool psychologists

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
Do we know exactly when Bem did the studies that were published in JPSP? If he'd been doing studies for decades he could eventually have gathered enough type 1 errors to result in the publication we saw in JPSP. Paul On Jun 9, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Michael Palij wrote: Just another comment on the

RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Michael Palij
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:14:17 -0700, Scott O Lilienfeld wrote: >Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982. He was >beginning to conduct work on psi (using the ganzfeld procedure, if I recall) >even back then. He also spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of >paranor

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Jeffry Ricker
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Paul Brandon wrote: > In the Skeptical Inquirer, among other places! > And if you search on 'quantum' and 'precognition' you will get some hits. Yes, some of these were the articles I was vaguely recalling. It's been a long time since I've read them--my interests

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul Brandon
; issues. See: > > http://www.amazon.com/Unconscious-Quantum-Victor-J-Stenger/dp/1573920223 > > ...Scott > From: Jeffry Ricker [jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edu] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 12:56 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: Re: [tips] The

RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
12:56 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Paul Brandon mailto:pkbra...@hickorytech.net>> wrote: contemporary physics (quantum theory -> string theory) seems to be in an 'anythi

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Jeffry Ricker
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Paul Brandon wrote: > contemporary physics (quantum theory -> string theory) seems to be in an > 'anything is possible' mode, so I'm not sure that a working physicist would > make an a priori judgement on precognition. I tried to see if an actual working physicis

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
> From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie [helw...@dickinson.edu] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 2:18 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem > > When Bem came to give a talk at Dickinson he

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul Brandon
Addendum: Bem's theories clearly violate classical (Newtonian) mechanics. However, contemporary physics (quantum theory -> string theory) seems to be in an 'anything is possible' mode, so I'm not sure that a working physicist would make an a priori judgement on precognition. On Jun 9, 2012, at

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul Brandon
The Skeptical Inquirer (http://www.csicop.org/) has a series of articles about l'affaire Bem, including argument with psychologist James Alcock. I don't think that any physicists were involved, though. For what it's worth, I knew Darryl slightly when he was a graduate student (we had the same

RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Michael Palij
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:14:17 -0700, Scott O Lilienfeld wrote: >Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982. He was >beginning to conduct work on psi (using the ganzfeld procedure, if I recall) >even back then. He also spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of >paranor

RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
Saturday, June 09, 2012 2:18 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem When Bem came to give a talk at Dickinson he said that he had been investigating paranormal events for many years. He said it was a long interest of his and he alw

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread MiguelRoig
e Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 2:18:57 AM Subject: RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem When Bem came to give a talk at Dickinson he said that he had been investigating paranormal events for many years. He said it was a long interest of his and he always wo

RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-08 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html -Original Message- From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:13 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem Hi Part of the problem with Bem's advice to &qu

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-07 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
rg.edu>> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:13:16 PM Subject: Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem Hi Part of the problem with Bem's advice to "tell a story" (i.e., "make up a story"?) when writing papers is that one can never be sure what is fact and what is just

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-07 Thread MiguelRoig
ime. Miguel   - Original Message - From: "Jim Clark" To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:13:16 PM Subject: Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem Hi Part of the problem with Bem's advice to "tell a st

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-07 Thread Jim Clark
Hi Part of the problem with Bem's advice to "tell a story" (i.e., "make up a story"?) when writing papers is that one can never be sure what is fact and what is just for the sake of the story. Here, for example, the "tell a story" model makes me skeptical that Bem was as unsympathetic to paran

Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-06 Thread Jeffry Ricker, PhD
On Jun 6, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Jeffry Ricker, PhD wrote: > Paranormal Circumstances: One Influential Scientist's Quixotic Mission to > Prove ESP Exists > From his research to his personal life, Daryl Bem's never been one to follow > the crowd. > by Yudhijit Bhattacharjee > From the March 2012 issu