Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain

2007-03-26 Thread Stacy Harim
bad to have to go through all of that, huh? Stacy - Original Message - From: cwkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kenneth Olivermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Tmic-list@eskimo.commailto:Tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain

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2007-03-17 Thread Heyjude48458
. I only take anacin when I get a headache, I have not had anything take away the pain for all these years. Ken Yes, Ken...but how do you manage to get through the long days and nights? I am really serious. I'd like to be able to go without all of the medications I take, but the pain

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2007-03-15 Thread Heyjude48458
Hi Ken, My legs and feet swell and turn dark purple when they are in a downward position, but all the tests have come back negative for circulatory problems, even though they sometimes become icy cold to the touch. My new doctor is trying to handle one symptom at a time, then well look

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2007-03-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My legs and feet swell and turn dark purple when they are in a downward position, but all the tests have come back negative for circulatory problems, even though they sometimes become icy cold to the touch.\ Hi, It's very simple if you think back to med school: Circulation in the

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2007-03-15 Thread cwk
spreadsheet and graph where I tracked my progress if anyone is interested.Cody in Austin - Original Message - From: Kenneth Oliver To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain

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2007-03-14 Thread Butcher, Bernie [SFS]
, March 14, 2007 12:29 AM To: Butcher, Bernie [SFS]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain Hi Bernie I am C7 and have normal feelings from just above the upper shoulder blade, but the burning stinging pain is from there down, with my feet and lower legs

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2007-03-14 Thread Candis Kalley
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bernie [SFS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kenneth Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: 3/13/2007 4:22:41 PM Subject: Re: RE: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first

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2007-03-14 Thread Kevin Wolfthal
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Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain

2007-03-13 Thread JHarper33
Hi Ken, My left hand and right calf and ankle (which were the limbs worst affected by TM) have been a little swollen ever since onset -- no idea why. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 3/13/2007 1:01:50 AM Eastern Daylight

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2007-03-13 Thread Butcher, Bernie [SFS]
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain Hi Ken, My left hand and right calf and ankle (which were the limbs worst affected by TM) have been a little swollen ever since onset -- no idea why. Barbara

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2007-03-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ken, I get swelling of my left leg- the leg most affected neurologically. the only thing is to get my feet above my heart. I use an inversion apparatus to flip up and hand by my ankles. It also helps my low back! lying down on your back with tw pillows under your calves woorks too. hope

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2007-03-13 Thread Butcher, Bernie [SFS]
Thanks Frank how long do you hold this pose? BERNARD BUTCHER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:30 AM To: Kenneth Oliver; Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain Ken, I get swelling of my left leg

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2007-03-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hang my ankles 30 minutes, twice a day. my legs/ ankles are locked into a foam filled ankle cuff Cumfy! f

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2007-03-13 Thread Butcher, Bernie [SFS]
Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first. BERNARD BUTCHER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:47 AM To: Butcher; Butcher, Bernie [SFS]; Kenneth Oliver; Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs

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2007-03-13 Thread Butcher, Bernie [SFS]
Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first. BERNARD BUTCHER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:47 AM To: Butcher; Butcher, Bernie [SFS]; Kenneth Oliver; Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs

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2007-03-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first. Completely upside down. I strap my ankles in lie back- the bed is horizontal at this point, but when I move my arms over my head, It swings vertical, me hanging. Feels great F

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2007-03-13 Thread Trudy
: RE: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first. Completely upside down. I strap my ankles in lie back- the bed is horizontal at this point, but when I move my arms over my head, It swings vertical, me hanging. Feels great F

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2007-03-13 Thread Kenneth Oliver
. Just hope I can hang in there for awhile longer. Ken in rain soaked Central Tx. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tmic-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No painDate: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:11:20 EDT Hi Ken, My left hand and right calf and ankle (which were the limbs worst

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2007-03-12 Thread Kenneth Oliver
Hi Kevin, I have had TM since 1981 and in that timeI haven't had a dozen days without pain. Sometimes days it gets hard to bear, but I gave up the so called pain relievers, all I take now is a couple of anacin for headaches.My pain is from the waist, where I still have banding , to my feet. All

Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain

2007-03-09 Thread JHarper33
I guess it depends on which nerves were affected. Just like some have paralysis and others don't, some have the burning/freezing feeling and some don't. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 3/9/2007 11:35:26 AM Eastern Standard

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2007-03-09 Thread Kevin Wolfthal
What's hard for me to understand is that I have pain in places that are also numb. One doctor called it similar to 'missing limb' syndrome, where people who have lost limbs still feel pain in those limbs. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am always surprised and admittably envious to

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2007-03-09 Thread James Bray
Envious? You're envious of people that are in pain? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am always surprised and admittably envious to hear of a TMer who does have pain. I always ask myself how this is can be possible. I know we are all different, but this is one difference I really don't

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2007-03-09 Thread Jim Lubin
I had a lot of pain the first 4 months. I just wanted to die so the pain would stop. I was getting morphine injects and taking a pain cocktail. Around the 5th month I wasn't feeling the pain the same way. I remember telling the doctors that I didn't think I needed the pain cocktail because I

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2007-03-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am always surprised and admittably envious to hear of a TMer who does have pain. Patty, You want to switch symptoms? Any Time, my dear!! I have central pain from my shoulders down- no part untouched! F

Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain

2007-03-09 Thread James Bray
James Bray wrote: It is just *perceived* to be in the leg, because the spinal nerves damaged are the the ones that control sensation for that part of the body. Lol - I really should check before posting. i meant to say perceived to be where you are feeling pain.

Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain

2007-03-09 Thread Kevin Wolfthal
Hi Patty, I think I understand what you mean. Are you saying that at least those of us with TM feel *something* and you have no sensation at all? As one of those who has had pain since the onset of TM in 1988, that's almost 20 years, I can tell you it is nothing to be envious of. It makes me

Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain

2007-03-09 Thread pjv1234
No Jim, you caught a typo that I missed. I meant to say that I'm envious of people who do NOT have pain. Sorry Patti James Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Envious? You're envious of people that are in pain? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am always surprised and admittably

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2007-03-09 Thread pjv1234
I guess typos are also a symptom of TM! Patti James Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = James Bray wrote: It is just *perceived* to be in the leg, because the spinal nerves damaged are the the ones that control sensation for that part of the body. Lol - I really should check

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2007-03-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ah, yes. That's me: burning-freezing feeling. I hadn't heard anyone describe it before, but that's exactly it for me!