Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-09 Thread John Gentilin
lsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 5:22 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful?? | | Well, that's subjective, so I won't argue. I find it not only elegant, | but far better than one thread pool f

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav
>From: Endre Stølsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 5:22 AM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful?? > >| >| Well, that's subjective, so I won't argue. I find it not only elegant, &g

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-09 Thread Endre Stølsvik
| | Well, that's subjective, so I won't argue. I find it not only elegant, | but far better than one thread pool for the whole server, but it's a | matter of stylistic preference. I'm glad you found a good solution that | works for you, and as I said before your other argument about the | server-

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-08 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, >It wasn't the overhead of the extra thread pool that bothered me, it's >more the fact that Tomcat would be unable to amortize thread creation as >well. Eg. if I have one thread pool with max 75 threads for *all* >requests, then Tomcat only has to create 75 threads, period. But if I >need a

Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-08 Thread Greg Ward
[me] > * to forward both SSL and non-SSL requests with mod_proxy, you'd >need two HTTP connectors in Tomcat, meaning two thread pools [Yoav Shapiro] > This is a serious stumbling block? Really? I buy your other > (redirect-related) argument but not this one at all. You can easily > configu

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-08 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, > * to forward both SSL and non-SSL requests with mod_proxy, you'd >need two HTTP connectors in Tomcat, meaning two thread pools This is a serious stumbling block? Really? I buy your other (redirect-related) argument but not this one at all. You can easily configure thread pools to c

Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-08 Thread Greg Ward
On 07 September 2004, Endre St?lsvik said: > The mod_jk approach of inventing a new binary protocol and whatnot is > maybe not the right solution for this. A simple raw forwarding of the > requests from Apache HTTPD to Apache Tomcat would be incredibly nice. Do what I did: try to replace mod_jk wi

Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Didier McGillis
did it, and I got a little ahead of myself and had to restart. Do it will clean everything and you should be fine. From: QM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why is Tomc

Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread QM
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:57:10PM -0400, Lon Palmer wrote: : It's obvious to me ( and probably to everyone else that uses : it ) that then entire process of installing mod_jk is broken. It takes too : much fiddling and effort. I don't share that view. I've setup mod_jk a few times, and it was v

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Lon Palmer
wheel gets the grease for a reason. If a lot of people are complaining about mod_jk, it's broken. Weather technically broken or perceptually broken does not matter. Broken is broken. Regards, Lon -Original Message- From: QM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 200

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Shapira, Yoav wrote: | | > Even if it isn't for anything else, a transparent forwarding | mechanism | >between a "specific subset of the server's URL namespace" (quote from | >ServletContext) of the server holding the listen call at port 80, and | >Tomcat, will always be neede

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Gerardo Juarez
mentation has never been an area of > high interest to most tomcat developers. Moreover, as Tomcat as > maturing the importance of the connectors in general is going down IMHO, > with more and more standalone installations. > > Yoav Shapira > Millennium Research Informatics >

Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread QM
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 06:25:46PM +0200, Endre St?lsvik wrote: : Do you really deny that mod_jk is somewhat hard to install? I mean, : probably 50% av the "OH MY WHATEVER - I CAN'T GET THIS TO WORK!!!" mails : are related to mod_jk.. Yes, but "posts to list" != "users." : Even if it isn't for

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, You have a unique talent for either misunderstanding my posts or taking them out of context ;) >Do you really deny that mod_jk is somewhat hard to install? No, I don't deny it's hard to install, and I didn't deny it in my original email. I said it's easy to download, and it is. >What if yo

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Greg . Cope
> | Moreover, as Tomcat as maturing the importance of the connectors in > | general is going down IMHO, with more and more standalone > installations. I've missed the begining of this but in most environments I have worked in tomcat/app servers are used behind webservers, so connectors or proxie

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Shapira, Yoav wrote: | | Hi, | I would point out a few things: [ - chop - ] Do you really deny that mod_jk is somewhat hard to install? I mean, probably 50% av the "OH MY WHATEVER - I CAN'T GET THIS TO WORK!!!" mails are related to mod_jk.. | Moreover, as Tomcat as maturin

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Shapira, Yoav
om: Greg Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:27 AM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful?? > >On 03 September 2004, Peter Alvin said: >> But why is it so >> incredibly painful to

Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-07 Thread Greg Ward
On 03 September 2004, Peter Alvin said: > But why is it so > incredibly painful to install Apache/Tomcat/Connector? It always > takes me about two days. I look forward to it as much as doing my > federal tax returns. I'm in complete agreement with you. Even finding the right files to download i

Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-03 Thread John Gentilin
I just built mod_jk, I think it was random luck that I actually got it running. For me, there are two things that would help out greatly. 1) As always, documentation but in this case, as mod_jk evolves, the install docs seems to be notes that are a diff from the previous rev. It also doesn't he

RE: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-03 Thread Filip Hanik \(lists\)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 7:06 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful?? From: "Peter Alvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don't get me wrong; I love Java; I love Tomcat. > But why is it

Re: Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-03 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Peter Alvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don't get me wrong; I love Java; I love Tomcat. > But why is it so > incredibly painful to install Apache/Tomcat/Connector? It always > takes me about two days. I look forward to it as much as doing my > federal tax returns. It took two days the first ti

Why is Tomcat/Connector Installation So Incredibly Painful??

2004-09-03 Thread Peter Alvin
Don't get me wrong; I love Java; I love Tomcat. But why is it so incredibly painful to install Apache/Tomcat/Connector? It always takes me about two days. I look forward to it as much as doing my federal tax returns. My 2 cents: This installation process has to get as easy as running a setup.ex