Re: tld processing performance at startup

2005-09-23 Thread Peter Rossbach
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:22 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tld processing performance at startup Setup a META-INF/context.xml inside your app And check Tim's tipps :-) regards Peter Tim Funk schrieb: There is an option to disable TLD processin

RE: tld processing performance at startup

2005-09-23 Thread Brad Flynn
/ScreenshotServer.jsp ? This is totally new to me so I appreciate your patience with a no0b! Cheers. Bradley -Original Message- From: Peter Rossbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:22 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tld processing performance at startup Setup a META

Re: tld processing performance at startup

2005-09-23 Thread Peter Rossbach
unzipped directory rather than a war file so we can update stuff faster (copy some jar files, stop/start). Auto reload is not compatible with our web app so we don't have that enabled. This web log post: http://www.webweavertech.com/costin/archives/000164.html suggests that the reason for the

Re: tld processing performance at startup

2005-09-23 Thread Tim Funk
eload is not compatible with our web app so we don't have that enabled. This web log post: http://www.webweavertech.com/costin/archives/000164.html suggests that the reason for the poor performance may be a design flaw in the jsp spec which makes it necessary to do a lot of work. The ideal way wou

tld processing performance at startup

2005-09-23 Thread Jilles van Gurp
stin/archives/000164.html suggests that the reason for the poor performance may be a design flaw in the jsp spec which makes it necessary to do a lot of work. The ideal way would be for the tld descriptors to always be in the META-INF directory. However, the spec doesn't require this and t

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-17 Thread Andrew Miehs
u just push all the traffic straight through anyway, we decided not to put Apache between our users and our Tomcat servers. If I didn't need to use re-writes, and complicated rules on our apaches, I would also use THTTP for performance reasons. Andrew On Sep 16, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Pe

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-16 Thread Peter Flynn
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 18:52, Mark Thomas wrote: > KEREM ERKAN wrote: > > Tomcat is harder to configure and -sadly- it has a far worse documentation > > than Apache (for now). > > I look forward to seeing your documentation patches in Bugzilla ;) I will certainly document how to fix my problem onc

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-16 Thread Peter Flynn
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 13:50, Andrew Miehs wrote: > We did some comparisons between running Tomcat 5.0 standalone, or TC > 5.0 and Apache 2.0 > > If you are ONLY delivering JSPs, we found that we could only deal > with 50% of the requests when running combined Apache TC and mod_jk OK, that's u

Tomcat directory protection (was: Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-16 Thread Peter Flynn
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 13:29, Hassan Schroeder wrote: > KEREM ERKAN wrote: > > Apache has better directory/file restricting and handling than Tomcat > > better in what way? What actual *security* issue are we talking > about -- in other words, what exploit is Tomcat susceptible to > that Apache is

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread KEREM ERKAN
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:53 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: mod_jk performance > > KEREM ERKAN wrote: > > Tomcat is harder to configure and -sadly- it has a far wo

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Xuekun Hu
Well since I don't understand German, I don't konw how he tested. However in my stress testing which lots of static and JSPs, I found Apache + mod_jk performance is a littlle higher than TOMCAT only. I configured Apache with mod_cache. So I think only handling JSPs, TC only could be b

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Mark Thomas
KEREM ERKAN wrote: Tomcat is harder to configure and -sadly- it has a far worse documentation than Apache (for now). I look forward to seeing your documentation patches in Bugzilla ;) Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PR

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread KEREM ERKAN
> -Original Message- > From: Lionel Farbos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 5:49 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Cc: KEREM ERKAN > Subject: Re: mod_jk performance > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:27:29 +0300 > KEREM ERKA

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Lionel Farbos
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:27:29 +0300 KEREM ERKAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well, mod_jk > 1.2.10 seems slower than 1.2.10 when stress > > tested. The > > > tests completed in more time. I do not have the actual test > > results, > > > because we have been using 1.2.10 for several month

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread KEREM ERKAN
> > Well, mod_jk > 1.2.10 seems slower than 1.2.10 when stress > tested. The > > tests completed in more time. I do not have the actual test > results, > > because we have been using 1.2.10 for several months, maybe > I can send > > them when I test 1.2.14. > > > I'm interested in such test

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Lionel Farbos
So, I think your solution with F5 BigIPs->Tomcat is equivalent to the solution with Apache/mod_jk->Tomcat But the last is free and I don't know the difference in performances between the 2 solutions. On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:14:01 +0200 Andrew Miehs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We run F5 BigIPs as

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Lionel Farbos
5.5 can be found at: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/ The Apache Tomcat team. - > Cheers, > > Kerem > > > -Original Message- > > From: Lionel Farbos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:51 PM > > To: T

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread KEREM ERKAN
ion. Is there a 1.2.14 really or did you write 14 by mistake? Cheers, Kerem > -Original Message- > From: Lionel Farbos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:51 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Cc: KEREM ERKAN > Subject: Re: mod_jk performance >

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Andrew Miehs
We run F5 BigIPs as our loadbalancers, and have seperated images, etc onto another server IE: i.domain.com for images, and www.domain.com for dynamic content. F5 provides a feature call iRules to do the splitting between hosts for you, but I would NOT use this on a high traffic site. Andre

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Lionel Farbos
But, in a web site, there is never only JSPs : there is a lot of static files (images, css, js, ...) So, if you don't have a apache in the frontend to deliver theses static files, there is an overload for the TC server... So, your tests stressed only light JSPs or a real site ? and what is your

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Lionel Farbos
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:55:08 +0300 KEREM ERKAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mod_jk > 1.2.10 had some performance problems > but I did not thoroughly test why. Is is proved ? Where do you find this ? I tested mod_jk 1.2.14 (but not stressed it) and it seems to be a good version.

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Andrew Miehs
We did some comparisons between running Tomcat 5.0 standalone, or TC 5.0 and Apache 2.0 If you are ONLY delivering JSPs, we found that we could only deal with 50% of the requests when running combined Apache TC and mod_jk Andrew On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Lionel Farbos wrote: I use Apa

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Lionel Farbos
000 "marc ratun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I just read an article about webapp benchmarks [1] and they mentioned that > apache+mod_jk+tomcat is about 30% slower than pure tomcat. > > This is sad. Until now I believed that the performance decrease wit

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread KEREM ERKAN
> -Original Message- > From: Hassan Schroeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:30 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: mod_jk performance > > KEREM ERKAN wrote: > > Apache has better directory/file restricting

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Hassan Schroeder
KEREM ERKAN wrote: Apache has better directory/file restricting and handling than Tomcat better in what way? What actual *security* issue are we talking about -- in other words, what exploit is Tomcat susceptible to that Apache is not? -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL P

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Andrew Miehs
Apache is easier to configure, but at a 50% performance hit for pure JSP pages Andrew On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:18 PM, KEREM ERKAN wrote: Apache has better directory/file restricting and handling than Tomcat, it is more customizable and it is much user/admin friendly to configure

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread KEREM ERKAN
harder to configure and -sadly- it has a far worse documentation than Apache (for now). Best regards, Kerem > -Original Message- > From: Hassan Schroeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:13 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: mod

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Bruno Georges
Kerem, You are probably right, I personnaly never faced any issues with any of them. However, Tom can you be more specific about the type of traffic your app has to serve and what are performance/response time requirements. Hardware and network, server and JVM configuration can also be either a

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Hassan Schroeder
KEREM ERKAN wrote: ... I am looking to the security side of the problem and Apache+mod_jk does its job better than only Tomcat concerning security. How so? -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Mladen Turk
marc ratun wrote: Hi, I just read an article about webapp benchmarks [1] and they mentioned that apache+mod_jk+tomcat is about 30% slower than pure tomcat. This is sad. Until now I believed that the performance decrease with apache/mod_jk would be marginal. Why would that be sad? 30

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread KEREM ERKAN
AFAIK mod_proxy performs worse than mod_jk. Just my 2 cents. Kerem > -Original Message- > From: Bruno Georges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:58 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Cc: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org > Subject: Re:

Re: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread Bruno Georges
Marc If the performance of your app is not acceptable using mod_jk , you could try other alternatives and still keep apache in front to serve static content and use other modules. You can use apache mod_proxy to forward request on 8080 [or whatever your run tomcat on] to tomcat without going

RE: mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread KEREM ERKAN
stress tested Apache+Tomcat and only Tomcat and it seems like %30 is too high. I can suggest using mod_jk 1.2.10 with Tomcat 5.5.9, surprisingly you get very similar results. Mod_jk > 1.2.10 had some performance problems but I did not thoroughly test why. I hope this may help a little. Che

mod_jk performance

2005-09-14 Thread marc ratun
Hi, I just read an article about webapp benchmarks [1] and they mentioned that apache+mod_jk+tomcat is about 30% slower than pure tomcat. This is sad. Until now I believed that the performance decrease with apache/mod_jk would be marginal. Putting apache/mod_jk before tomcat is very nice. I

Re: Performance proxy_ajp vs. mod_jk when TOMCAT integration with Apache

2005-08-16 Thread Xuekun Hu
proxy_ajp is mod_jk successor in Apache2.1/2.2 core. You can find more info: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.1/mod/mod_proxy.html http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.1/mod/mod_proxy_ajp.html http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.1/mod/mod_proxy_balancer.html Thx, Xuekun On 8/17/05, Christine Ho <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Performance proxy_ajp vs. mod_jk when TOMCAT integration with Apache

2005-08-16 Thread Christine Ho
Hi, Can somebody tell me what the difference between the proxy_ajp and mod_jk is. thanks, Christine --- Mladen Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xuekun Hu wrote: > > Hi, > >>From performance point, which connector will be > used for TOMCAT > > intergration

Re: Performance proxy_ajp vs. mod_jk when TOMCAT integration with Apache

2005-08-15 Thread Mladen Turk
Xuekun Hu wrote: Hi, From performance point, which connector will be used for TOMCAT intergration with Apache? proxy_ajp or mod_jk? I read some docs which said mod_jk should have better performance than proxying. While proxy_ajp in Apache2.1 is an addition to the mod_proxy and uses Tomcat&#

Performance proxy_ajp vs. mod_jk when TOMCAT integration with Apache

2005-08-15 Thread Xuekun Hu
Hi, >From performance point, which connector will be used for TOMCAT intergration with Apache? proxy_ajp or mod_jk? I read some docs which said mod_jk should have better performance than proxying. While proxy_ajp in Apache2.1 is an addition to the mod_proxy and uses Tomcat's AJP protoc

Apache2 and mod_jk2 POST performance problems (GET is fine)

2005-06-29 Thread Joe Kislo
to is that performance on a POST request is abysmal, while GET requests is just fine. As seen here: ab -n 1000 http://localhost/tomcat/test Time taken for tests: 0.300519 seconds Requests per second:3327.58 [#/sec] (mean) ab -p testpost -n 1000 http://localhost/tomcat/test Time taken

RE: monitoring performance

2005-06-17 Thread Hossein S. Attar
e response time (both total average response time and per-servlet average response time)? Thanks, Hossein > -Original Message- > From: Peter Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:18 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: monitoring performance > &

Re: monitoring performance

2005-06-17 Thread Peter Lin
you can easily setup JMeter to monitor tomcat and save the results to a log. peter lin On 6/17/05, Hossein S. Attar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: > > Is it possible to instruemnt Tomcat to collect statistics such as > averasge response time (for each servlet), etc and then somehow get > the

monitoring performance

2005-06-17 Thread Hossein S. Attar
Hi: Is it possible to instruemnt Tomcat to collect statistics such as averasge response time (for each servlet), etc and then somehow get these statistics programatically (e.g., using an API). I'm trying to write a program that needs to get such statistics, therefore monitoring tools that re

RE: Poor Performance Tomcat5.5.7, Apache2.0.52, Solaris 9

2005-06-04 Thread George Sexton
M > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org > Subject: Poor Performance Tomcat5.5.7, Apache2.0.52, Solaris 9 > > I am hoping someone has experienced this before. > > The installation is a binary install of Tomcat and a binary > install of mod_jk 1.2.6 connector. > > We have been

Poor Performance Tomcat5.5.7, Apache2.0.52, Solaris 9

2005-06-02 Thread BATCHELOR, SCOTT \(CONTRACTOR\)
I am hoping someone has experienced this before. The installation is a binary install of Tomcat and a binary install of mod_jk 1.2.6 connector. We have been running performance tests on this install and Tomcat is very, very cpu intensive topping out at 55% of the cpu's on the box. I

Re: genStrAsCharArray not available in JspC and performance increase?

2005-05-28 Thread Remy Maucherat
using JspC from the command line. > > trimSpaces is there... but not genStrAsCharArray. > > Its in the source but it just doesn't have a command line option. > > 1... does it make sense for me to just recompile my 5.5.4 production > server with this enabled? Whats the per

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Peter Lin
ne realizes how many lines Jasper2 generates to setup the tag. Jasper2 does a much better job than jasper1 in tomcat 4.0.x. If I remember correctly, jasper2 was first released with jasper 4.1.x. The initial version of jasper2 fixed some major performance issues like deeply nested try/catch and methods

genStrAsCharArray not available in JspC and performance increase?

2005-05-28 Thread Kevin Burton
the source but it just doesn't have a command line option. 1... does it make sense for me to just recompile my 5.5.4 production server with this enabled? Whats the performance gain? 2. Can we make this an option in JspC moving forward? I don't see why it can't be a command l

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Kevin Burton
Remy Maucherat wrote: For production configuration for Jasper, see: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/jasper-howto.html#Production%20Configuration Do you know offhand if genStrAsCharArray has to be passed to jspc? I didn't notice this as one of the command line options in 5.5

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Kevin Burton
Remy Maucherat wrote: It will obviously use more CPU and make more API calls. However, it does not allocate any objects, but instead will reuse per page objects (which is very fast). So overall, it sounds weird to me that the bottleneck would be on tag invocation. In the end, it's hard to beat

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Kevin Burton
Peter Lin wrote: Back in 2002, I wrote several pages using JSP + java and JSP + JSTL to measure the actual cost of from a performance perspective. The performance difference isn't noticeable if a page has less than 50 tags. With 200+ tags, the performance difference does range from 2-5x s

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Kevin Burton
a big performance hit when development is set to "true" btw. I'll try to play with the above setting... thanks. Kevin -- Use Rojo (RSS/Atom aggregator)! - visit http://rojo.com. See irc.freenode.net #rojo if you want to chat. Rojo is Hiring! - http://www.rojonetworks.com/Jobs

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Kevin Burton
Peng Tuck Kwok wrote: Just to check are your precompiling the jsp page? Yes... we're precompiling them before we deploy. I'd recommend most people do that if they have the time. Kevin -- Use Rojo (RSS/Atom aggregator)! - visit http://rojo.com. See irc.freenode.net #rojo if you want t

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Kevin Burton
Dakota Jack wrote: You have to be and are comparing apples and oranges, Kevin, Perhaps... but my point was that JSP 2.0 doesn't HAVE to be this slow! :) because JSP *is* Java. DOH! It cannot run slower than what it is. No.. it could run slower... I'm sure the Tomcat developers will find

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Dakota Jack
ting JSTL, it's pretty clear it's > > using much more memory and causing more GC. The performance you see is > > the result of JSTL using more memory. > > It will obviously use more CPU and make more API calls. However, it > does not allocate any objects, but instead will reus

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Peter Lin
at how > > many classes are involved in executing JSTL, it's pretty clear it's > > using much more memory and causing more GC. The performance you see is > > the result of JSTL using more memory. > > It will obviously use more CPU and make more API calls. Howeve

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Remy Maucherat
e memory and causing more GC. The performance you see is > the result of JSTL using more memory. It will obviously use more CPU and make more API calls. However, it does not allocate any objects, but instead will reuse per page objects (which is very fast). So overall, it sounds weird to me that

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Peter Lin
see already, using JSTL means a single line of code gets converted to several lines of JSTL api calls. once you look at how many classes are involved in executing JSTL, it's pretty clear it's using much more memory and causing more GC. The performance you see is the result of JSTL using m

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Remy Maucherat
On 5/28/05, Kevin Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been tuning our application trying to get the maximum performance > out if the system as possible. > > I've been throwing the system at jprofiler and allowing it to tell me > where to optimized. > >

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Dakota Jack
parameters of the test situation. On 5/28/05, Peng Tuck Kwok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to check are your precompiling the jsp page? > > On 5/28/05, Kevin Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been tuning our application trying to get the maximum perf

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-28 Thread Peng Tuck Kwok
Just to check are your precompiling the jsp page? On 5/28/05, Kevin Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been tuning our application trying to get the maximum performance > out if the system as possible. > > I've been throwing the system at jprofiler and allow

Re: The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-27 Thread Dakota Jack
blem with JSP and JSP is not a dog if used properly. That's all I have to say about that. On 5/27/05, Kevin Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been tuning our application trying to get the maximum performance > out if the system as possible. > > I've b

The amazingly slow performance of JSP (profiler results)

2005-05-27 Thread Kevin Burton
I've been tuning our application trying to get the maximum performance out if the system as possible. I've been throwing the system at jprofiler and allowing it to tell me where to optimized. In short Tomcat is slower than our DB, filesystem,. network and all other systems b

RE: isapi_redirect performance issues

2005-05-24 Thread Derrick Koes
List Subject: Re: isapi_redirect performance issues I did the packet trace and here is some more information: There are more packets with IIS as compared to Apache – with IIS the response body is in a separate packet than the packet containing the Status Code 200 and also I see "HTT

Re: isapi_redirect performance issues

2005-05-24 Thread ahmed
2005 3:19 pm Subject: isapi_redirect performance issues > We are using Tomcat 5.5.9 with IIS on the front end. IIS is > serving all > the static content and forwards the servlet requests to Tomcat > using > the latest version of isapi_redirect.dll and ajp13 protocol. After > depl

isapi_redirect performance issues

2005-05-23 Thread ahmed
noticing 8x to 10x performance slowdown when connecting to the application via port 80 as opposed to the direct port 8080. I tried using Apache WebServer in front instead of IIS and that works great – the performance problem is ONLY when using IIS in the front. Unfortunately my application has to be

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Burton
Dakota Jack wrote: Why don't you break it down and find out where the time is going? So in summary.. now that I'm suspicious that its a tag instantiation issue I'm going to load up the webapp with FULL instrumentation... its about 8x slower but I think I'll need that level of granularity here.

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-18 Thread Dakota Jack
op of > >: it > > > >What does your profiler report? > > > >-QM > > > > > > > I can't for the life of me figure it out! > > It certainly reports that doTag is taking a LOT of time but not WHY its > taking a lot of time. > &g

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Burton
e but not WHY its taking a lot of time. Its reporting that reflection is hurting performance but this is only about 200ms vs 2500ms for the tag stuff. So I might have been wrong that Reflection is causing the problem and it MIGHT be a problem with the tag constructor or some other issue whi

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-18 Thread QM
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 02:19:15PM -0700, Kevin Burton wrote: : So its clearly not JUST reflected methods its something else on top of : it What does your profiler report? -QM -- software -- http://www.brandxdev.net/ tech news -- http://www.RoarNetworX.com/ code scan -- http://www.JxR

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-18 Thread Tim Funk
To execute a tag file requires creating some new objects which migh have an overhead not quite comparable to RequestDispatcher.include() Thats probably the issue. -Tim Kevin Burton wrote: Tim Funk wrote: Its not reflection killing you. For example, time this: <%=System.currentTimeMillis()%> ${

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Burton
Tim Funk wrote: Its not reflection killing you. For example, time this: <%=System.currentTimeMillis()%> ${more.cowbell} <%=System.currentTimeMillis()%> Where more is any java object and cowbell is a property (getCowbell()). In simple timing trials - even where iterations is greater than 2000

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-18 Thread Tim Funk
Its not reflection killing you. For example, time this: <%=System.currentTimeMillis()%> ${more.cowbell} <%=System.currentTimeMillis()%> Where more is any java object and cowbell is a property (getCowbell()). In simple timing trials - even where iterations is greater than 2000 - I get subsecon

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Burton
Dakota Jack wrote: Why would you have to have an entirely new "reflection" for more than one database call? That sound like a design SNAFU to me. Looks to me like you should be having one use of reflection instead of 1000. I don't have to have it. Tomcat is *doing* it. Forget the DB. If I h

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-17 Thread Dakota Jack
Why would you have to have an entirely new "reflection" for more than one database call? That sound like a design SNAFU to me. Looks to me like you should be having one use of reflection instead of 1000. Jack On 4/17/05, Kevin Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dakota Jack wrote: > > >1000 on

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-17 Thread Kevin Burton
Dakota Jack wrote: 1000 on a page? Really? That seems very odd to me given my experience. What would a page like that look like? Do you have examples? So psuedo code... - get a list of objects from your DB.. Say 500 - for each object tag A tag B tag C fn:length And so forth... That

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-17 Thread Dakota Jack
x27;s done? > > > > > > > Well I think I'm going to have to review all forms of code that cause > this and rewrite them. > > The BIGGEST problem as I currently see it is with .tag files. These use > reflection but I can't figure out a way to rewrite them

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-17 Thread Kevin Burton
rite them. I think if i were to do this it would yield DRAMATIC performance improvements. The REAL issue is that enabling developers to shoot themselves in the foot like this is really irresponsible and probably needs to be removed or a HUGE warning be placed before examples. Kevin -- Use Ro

Re: Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-17 Thread QM
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 03:44:59PM -0700, Kevin Burton wrote: : We've had a few bottlenecks in our code that have since been removed but : the remaining big bottleneck is Tomcat. The JSP engine is creating : compiled code that is heavily relying on reflection. : [snip] : : Is there ANY way to g

Reflection for custom taglibs killing performance...

2005-04-17 Thread Kevin Burton
I've been spending this week running a profiler across our webapp and Tomcat. We've had a few bottlenecks in our code that have since been removed but the remaining big bottleneck is Tomcat. The JSP engine is creating compiled code that is heavily relying on reflection. Reflection shouldn't

Re: Performance monitoring

2005-04-05 Thread Francesco Del Moro
CHESS-CODE:s04hchmi42m2t3k3s41ktl27o8s9c9pa8b9c0c8cpt8dge8v2voo0 - Original Message - From: "Tony Tomcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Peter Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: Re: Performa

Re: Performance monitoring

2005-04-05 Thread Jess Holle
Somewhere one does cross the hazy Heisenberg uncertainty principal line, i.e. noticeably impacting performance by trying to hard to measure performance... -- Jess Holle e wrote: http://mc4j.sourceforge.net/ScreenShots.html On Apr 5, 2005 2:20 PM, Tony Tomcat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I s

Re: Performance monitoring

2005-04-05 Thread Tony Tomcat
> > peter > > > On Apr 5, 2005 2:20 PM, Tony Tomcat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I started writing a Filter for my tomcat to monitor performance but > > then I started wondering.. Is there a solution already out there that > > I can use? Can I pull data from

Re: Performance monitoring

2005-04-05 Thread e
http://mc4j.sourceforge.net/ScreenShots.html On Apr 5, 2005 2:20 PM, Tony Tomcat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started writing a Filter for my tomcat to monitor performance but > then I started wondering.. Is there a solution already out there that > I can use? Can I pull dat

Re: Performance monitoring

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Lin
ore Tomcat instances. so if you don't count the status servlet and tomcat, nothing exists :) peter On Apr 5, 2005 2:20 PM, Tony Tomcat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started writing a Filter for my tomcat to monitor performance but > then I started wondering.. Is there a solution

Performance monitoring

2005-04-05 Thread Tony Tomcat
I started writing a Filter for my tomcat to monitor performance but then I started wondering.. Is there a solution already out there that I can use? Can I pull data from Tomcat's MBeanServer? What I would like to know is how long my servlets are taking to run. I need the Min, Max and Av

Configuration for best performance in a high latency environment

2005-02-22 Thread Jason Bainbridge
All, I am wondering if anyone out there has any experience with tuning Tomcat to improve performance in high latency (~700ms) environments? I've basically just been experimenting and learning what I can from the available resources on the web but there doesn't seem to be much out

Re: Performance of different Tomcat Releases

2005-02-01 Thread QM
On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 11:52:37AM -0600, sudip shrestha wrote: : I would like to know if there is significant performance improvement : from 5.0.x to 5.5.x. Is there some sort of relative performance study : done by anybody? Tomcat 5.5 is supposed to include several performance enhancements

Re: Performance of different Tomcat Releases

2005-02-01 Thread Peter Lin
look here http://cvs.apache.org/~woolfel/tc_results.html http://cvs.apache.org/~woolfel/benchmark_summary.doc peter On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:52:37 -0600, sudip shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to know if there is significant performance improvement > from 5.0.x t

Performance of different Tomcat Releases

2005-02-01 Thread sudip shrestha
I would like to know if there is significant performance improvement from 5.0.x to 5.5.x. Is there some sort of relative performance study done by anybody? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e

Re: javaMail performance in tomcat

2005-01-28 Thread Mark
in this case you'll get out of your servlet faster - but it still ddesn't answer about is 400ms for email to be send is a good value. --- xand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I do normally is start a separate Thread called > MailSenderWorker, > this object is the responsible for sending emails

Re: javaMail performance in tomcat

2005-01-28 Thread xand
What I do normally is start a separate Thread called MailSenderWorker, this object is the responsible for sending emails. You lose some control over the process (suppose that peer was unreacheable (bad address, for example), you will not be able to show an error message to your client. But when

javaMail performance in tomcat

2005-01-28 Thread Mark
Hi, My servlet sends an email using Authentication to mail server. It took 400ms to send one small ( 3K text )e-mail. Does anybody know if it fast enough for 3MB/800Kb network ? Is there any way to make it faster? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail

Re: performance/scalability impact of many webapps in one container

2005-01-18 Thread Remy Maucherat
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:12:06 -, Varley, Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > For reasons beyond my control, a web application > > (apache/Tomcat/PostgreSQL) that I support will need to be partitioned > > into one context per customer (to support one database per customer). > > I'm wondering

RE: performance/scalability impact of many webapps in one container

2005-01-18 Thread Varley, Roger
> > For reasons beyond my control, a web application > (apache/Tomcat/PostgreSQL) that I support will need to be partitioned > into one context per customer (to support one database per customer). > I'm wondering: > Do you really need one database per customer? In a similair situation, we resol

Re: performance/scalability impact of many webapps in one container

2005-01-17 Thread Remy Maucherat
x27;m wondering: > > 1. What the performance implications are (if any) of having up to 300 > contexts in one container? With Tomcat 5.x, it's ok, it will just use more memory. With 4.x, it's bad (one background thread per context = 300 background threads). > 2. Are there any

Re: performance/scalability impact of many webapps in one container

2005-01-17 Thread QM
customer, or just one datasource definition per customer? If you can share, what's the reasoning behind this? : 1. What the performance implications are (if any) of having up to 300 : contexts in one container? Depends mostly on your hardware (memory, CPU, network bandwidth per host), attitude to

performance/scalability impact of many webapps in one container

2005-01-17 Thread Joel McGraw
For reasons beyond my control, a web application (apache/Tomcat/PostgreSQL) that I support will need to be partitioned into one context per customer (to support one database per customer). I'm wondering: 1. What the performance implications are (if any) of having up to 300 contexts i

Re: Monitoring Performance Tomcat 5.0.28

2004-12-31 Thread Peter Lin
The jakarta JMeter monitor sends requests to Tomcat's status servlet and uses the stats there to generate a performance graph. You can monitor multiple servers with jmeter. If you use a third party tool, it will have lots of other features, but it most likely will not be able to utilize the

Re: Monitoring Performance Tomcat 5.0.28

2004-12-31 Thread Jukka Uusisalo
Hari Mailvaganam wrote: Hi: What would be the best way to monitor the performance of Tomcat - while in production? I have used /manager application and JMeter. Not in production but during performace tests and development servers. I am not sure is this best way but for my purpose it is pretty ok

Re: Monitoring Performance Tomcat 5.0.28

2004-12-31 Thread Peter Lin
you could use jmeter's tomcat5 monitor. there's a coupl of commercial tools out there that can monitor your production servers. peter On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:27:05 -0800, Hari Mailvaganam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: > > What would be the best way to monitor

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