Silke Meyer silke.me...@wikimedia.de wrote:
[...]
For me, it is important that I don't have to deal with that domain any
longer. Simply keeping the CNAME causes on work at all. If you at WMF
want to handle the certificate question in the future, you can go
ahead. At the Hackathon, I
I wrote:
I can't login to willow and nighsthade via ssh. They both show some welcome
text and nighshade ends up at showing the Last login: ..., willow at The
following screen sessions are active Nothing happens then, neither it
continues, nor the connection gets disconnected.
Anybody
(anonymous) wrote:
I can't login to willow and nighsthade via ssh. They both show some welcome
text and nighshade ends up at showing the Last login: ..., willow at The
following screen sessions are active Nothing happens then, neither it
continues, nor the connection gets disconnected.
(anonymous) wrote:
[...]
JIRA however is much more complicated. You know from your own
experience (https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-748 has now been
unresolved for over three years) that few of the Toolserver admins
have time and knowledge with regard to JIRA, while in the WMF camp
(anonymous) wrote:
I would vote strongly to keep the wiki and also JIRA somewhere
accessible. Both contain a serious amount of history and documentation.
Can that be done?
[...]
These are two very different problems.
AFAICS the wiki can be moved rather easily; your mail trig-
gered me to
Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, can we have a list of all the accounts that expired in
the Big Catastrophic Deadline of the 6th (and have no
redirects to other places, maybe)? We're bound to have
hundreds of dead tools in this moment and I'd like to avoid
chasing them
Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote:
[...]
This is what we planned and why amette implemented the htaccess variant.
You can put it into your home and even if you remove all your stuff with
burnbridges the htaccess file will stay there if it has a labs url in it.
WMF can get
Marlen Caemmerer marlen.caemme...@wikimedia.de wrote:
It would be very nice in this festive season if someone
could resolve the pending JIRA requests for lost and changed
SSH keys first
(cf.
Silke Meyer silke.me...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Just a little reminder:
Your toolserver accounts will expire on January 6th, 2014. You can renew
it with acctrenew as usual.
If you had an expired account and you want to come back and collect your
data: Your account has been reactivated until
Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote:
Today, I hacked together a JIRA migration tool. [...]
As I said on Bugzilla: Pretty cool! :-)
If someone is just interested in a backup of their project,
but doesn't necessarily want to migrate it to another bug-
tracker (yet), JIRA provides XML
Hi,
most of dbreps's jobs have been waiting for more than a
month with:
| scheduling info:queue instance
medium...@mayapple.toolserver.org dropped because it is temporarily not
available
| queue instance
longrun2-...@hawthorn.toolserver.org dropped
(anonymous) wrote:
[...]
It's all about work-load; all the migrations, changes and stuff taking
place at the moment just stops me of doing my work. I should bug fix
and develop bots for wikidata and commons, instead I have to migrate
to Labs and GIT. And as it looks like git will - even if
Maciej Jaros e...@wp.pl wrote:
Is there any how-to on moving SVN repo. along with it's
history to TL? Is it possible/planned at all?
Also could you clarify on ...WMF doesn’t provide SVN
hosting, but volunteers can create an SVN project in
Labs.. I can create a repo in my home dir or what?
Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
Would .htaccess work also for expired accounts then, and
could operators/roots do something about them? We still have
tons of users entering, say, interiot and soxred's tools and
getting slightly unhelpful results.
The User account expired
Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
.htaccess is your friend :-)
[...]
To be a bit more explicit :-):
| Redirect /~$USERONTOOLSERVER/ http://tools.wmflabs.org/$TOOLONTOOLS/
in ~/public_html/.htaccess should redirect all requests from
the former to the latter while preserving
Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
.htaccess is your friend :-)
[...]
To be a bit more explicit :-):
| Redirect /~$USERONTOOLSERVER/ http://tools.wmflabs.org/$TOOLONTOOLS/
probably better to use Alias. (at least for most people)
Eh, how? The Alias directive seems to allow only
Marlen Caemmerer marlen.caemme...@wikimedia.de wrote:
installed SSL cert.
Doesn't work at least on FishEye and JIRA.
Damn...forgot this installation...fixed.
And works -- thanks! I closed
https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1657.
Tim
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I wrote:
installed SSL cert.
Doesn't work at least on FishEye and JIRA.
Damn...forgot this installation...fixed.
And works -- thanks! I closed
https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1657.
Matthew found an issue with the certificate that prevents
using for example curl with the
(anonymous) wrote:
yes, there is a minor problem with ngnix I haven?t time to fix yet.
Also there is a harmless error-message about quota at login.
The funny thing with the quota error-message is, it works correct if I
do have over-quota when loggin-in. Not so if the quota is not
(anonymous) wrote:
Today^W Yesterday, I was asked about some file numbers, which involved
subcategory traversing, which is an inefficient problem. It seemed a
good problem for comparing toolserver and labs. And toolserver db sucks:
willow: 31m5.157s (user 0m4.038s)
labs: 0m4.271s (user
(anonymous) wrote:
That is a sge scheduler problem.
I could not commend your sge ticket because jira does not
accept my jira token. The load limit is set ok because we
use np_load_* values which is the load divided by the number
of cores on this host. So e.g. sge stop scheduling jobs on
Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote:
As I told, I'm driving a pywikipedia bot (Alebot) into willow; I installed
pywikipedia at $HOME, I set
PYTHONPATH=/home/alebot/pywikipedia [,.]
into .environment file, and I am reviewing at my best python scripts to run
them by qsub/qcronsub.
Hi,
a qstat -j of a simple job yields inter alia:
| scheduling info:queue instance
longrun-...@willow.toolserver.org dropped because it is temporarily not
available
| queue instance short-...@willow.toolserver.org
dropped because it is temporarily not
Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Since a few days I'm getting weird errors when submitting tasks.
My Cronjob calls
/home/mazder/public_html/replicate-sequences/update-submit.sh
which conains the following command:
qcronsub -l h_rt=0:05:00 -l virtual_free=100M -l arch=* -l
Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote:
I have a cronietab job that now gives this error message:
error: commlib error: can't connect to service (Connection refused)
Unable to run job: unable to send message to qmaster
using port 444 on host damiana: got send error.
Exiting.
Now it has
I wrote:
[...]
Plus medium and longrun queues in yarrow are in error state. I tried
cleaning them, but they failed again.
I think I found the culprit:
| timl@yarrow:~$ df -i /var/spool/cron/atjobs
| FilesystemInodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
| /dev/mapper/yarrow0-var
Marlen Caemmerer marlen.caemme...@wikimedia.de wrote:
I would like to reboot ortelius, one of the web servers at
tomorrow, Tuesday 1830 UTC
Apparently, wolfsbane rebooted today as well:
| timl@wolfsbane:~$ uptime
| 16:49pm up 5:00, 2 users, load average: 1.16, 1.24, 1.47
|
(anonymous) wrote:
[...]
Plus medium and longrun queues in yarrow are in error state. I tried
cleaning them, but they failed again.
I think I found the culprit:
| timl@yarrow:~$ df -i /var/spool/cron/atjobs
| FilesystemInodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
|
(anonymous) wrote:
[...]
Database replication came up yet again in the office hours. Many
developers (myself included) seem to be holding off on Labs until database
replication is up and running. The sooner this can happen, the better. But
the remaining sticking point seems to be
(anonymous) wrote:
until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight
together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and against Labs.
Some mails and discussion in the last days gives me now the impression that
this was wrong and (at least some of) you are eager
Hi,
at the office hour yesterday
(cf. http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20130430.txt):
| [...]
| Coren multichill: The long story short; replicating
| databases is happening soon (Within the month)
| Replicating multiple copies of commons and wikidata
|
Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote:
I've a Toolserver account - I remember registration procedure just like a
terrible nightmare and I survived only thanks to lots of luck.
Now, server refuses connection. I use Pageant, usually login is very simple
- I load my key, then I open Putty, I
Marlen Caemmerer marlen.caemme...@wikimedia.de wrote:
[...]
yes, that is true. I try to find out but all I found until
now was that some requests get redirected from nginx not to
ortelius/wolfsbane web servers but to apache.
Usually there should be svn and nagios and the svn error log
is
Byrial Jensen byr...@vip.cybercity.dk wrote:
I am planning to make some maintenace reports for the Danish
Wikipedia at regular intervals, like once a week or once
every few days, but the exact time to run the programs
doesn't really matter.
So what time of the day is it best to run such
(anonymous) wrote:
[...]
If you are using sge you have not really care about. If you
can use the hole cluster (linux and solaris) we mostly have
enough capacity. It is only important that you can specify
which resources (memory, runtime) you need.
[...]
BTW, is the Queue State on
Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
Just wondering what the latest news is here? Can someone check the
Atlassian bug? is the Atlassian bug in a public tracker that anyone
can view?
Still broken for me. I did notice that JIRA looked a bit different.
Did we upgrade recently?
By the
Morten Wang nett...@gmail.com wrote:
If you wonder what the standard indexes are, there's a link to the SVN
source on https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Database_access#Database_schema
[...]
... the outdated SVN source :-). Thanks, I fixed this. Be
aware, though, that this doesn't reflect
(anonymous) wrote:
few minutes ago I had to clean ortelius' /tmp again because it was nearly full
(there is up to 13GB space).
Using temp-files is a great thing and we all know that clean-up is boring
stuff
– but please: If you can not make your tools clean after them self then YOU
have to
I wrote:
few minutes ago I had to clean ortelius' /tmp again because it was nearly
full
(there is up to 13GB space).
Using temp-files is a great thing and we all know that clean-up is boring
stuff
– but please: If you can not make your tools clean after them self then YOU
have to clean
Maciej Jaros e...@wp.pl wrote:
I've notice that there are no keys and so probably no
indexes on toolserver databases. Is this intentional?
I've used below queries - both show no keys/indexes on revision table:
SHOW COLUMNS FROMplwiki_p.revision;
SHOW INDEX FROM plwiki_p.revision;
I've
DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote:
after our discussion about more roots I got the impression that for some of
you the topic of more roots is quite urgent. To be honest I feel not very well
to just add a few roots at the moment.
So I thought a compromise and created a new user-group:
Hi,
from about 3:00Z to about 3:20Z, no login was possible to
nightshade and yarrow, (not existing) passwords required for
willow and the webserver returned 404s. MZMcBride had an
open session into willow, and loads of accessible servers
were within limits
(cf.
I wrote:
[...]
- The listed mail address for the Toolserver admins is
ts-adm...@toolserver.org. While this may work during such
an outage (I didn't try) and personal mail addresses for
admins can be found in the toolserver-announce archives,
we should prefer an address routed
(anonymous) wrote:
great parts of the toolserver-cluster were down or very slow in the last few
hours. AFAIS it was a problem with the user-store or rosemary (where the user-
store is physically connected). I rebooted rosemary, but the reboot showed
problems with its IPv6-address. I tried to
DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote:
Couldn't the search not be automated à la (untested):
several important partitions (for example database-partitions) live on this
SAN. I have no idea what happens if a partition is mounted on 2 hosts, so I
like to avoid blind mounting.
On Linux and
Marlen Caemmerer marlen.caemme...@wikimedia.de wrote:
I have become sick as my baby has with high fever and it seems the rest of
the family will join.
Yesterday I was already in hospital with the baby but without me thinking
about their treatments it wont work.
She has a resistant bactery
(anonymous) wrote:
wasn't thinking about a paid job, but harvesting the vol-
unteer potential of the toolserver usership.
AFAIK the WMF accepts only paid persons anymore.
But if the users would like to help, they can it even now: Update the pages in
the wiki, write a patch for cron, add
Chris Grant chrisgrantm...@gmail.com wrote:
For the Unix irregulars, log into the server and execute mail. [...]
Or you can use mutt. I find it's more user friendly.
It is :-). What I like about mail compared to other tools
is that it doesn't do anything not needed, i. e. no ~/Mail
(anonymous) wrote:
So we should add more roots, ideally of course Solaris/Linux
bilinguals with 20+ years of HA and MySQL replication expe-
rience and lots of spare time on their hands, practically
any bright mind who can track down some bug, update the pup-
pet configuration and care for
I wrote:
for those of you not having seen TS-1553, mail forwarding
seems to have stopped working. So if you haven't received
the usual job reports that you were expecting, you might
want to login to all servers and check if there is mail for
you. You can query all servers by:
| for
Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote:
ssh'ing to yarrow gives:
| [tim@passepartout ~]$ ssh yarrow.toolserver.org
| The RSA host key for yarrow.toolserver.org has changed,
| and the key for the corresponding IP address 91.198.174.216
| is unknown.
| The fingerprint for the RSA key
(anonymous) wrote:
What features should it have?
- A possibility to mark ticket/reports as non-public,
- the possibility to have projects/components
- very good would be a LDAP-interface or a SSO-integration
Why not just use the WMF Bugzilla? That would clear the
toolserver admin's plate
I wrote:
At some point I even logged in, clicked an issue, clicked Edit (which uses
AJAX) and then the Edit screen wouldn't load due to me not being
authenticated (while I still saw my nickname on the top right).
I have the same problem lately when I use JIRA. The session loss
happens
Morten Wang nett...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like this was a PEBKAC[1], should have used qcronsub and not cronsub.
Thanks to Sumurai8 for spotting that and suggesting ways to debug if the
problem continues!
It appears that qcronsub doesn't allow me to specify all options in the
shell script,
(anonymous) wrote:
At some point I even logged in, clicked an issue, clicked Edit (which uses
AJAX) and then the Edit screen wouldn't load due to me not being
authenticated (while I still saw my nickname on the top right).
I have the same problem lately when I use JIRA. The session loss
(anonymous) wrote:
for those of you not having seen TS-1553, mail forwarding
seems to have stopped working. So if you haven't received
the usual job reports that you were expecting, you might
want to login to all servers and check if there is mail for
you. You can query all servers by:
|
I wrote:
Thanks. I don't want to fiddle to much with SGE's in-
testines, so I will probably either use | mail timl in my
script or have my MUA insert the log in the status mail.
I looked if I could submit this totally fascinating and
innovative idea of mailing the output as a RFE
(anonymous) wrote:
Thanks. I don't want to fiddle to much with SGE's in-
testines, so I will probably either use | mail timl in my
script or have my MUA insert the log in the status mail.
I looked if I could submit this totally fascinating and
innovative idea of mailing the output as a
(anonymous) wrote:
We currently have no plans for having the user databases on the same
servers as the replicated databases. Direct joins will not be
possible, so tools will need to be modified.
This is unfortunate, and a huge step backwards from the situation on
the toolserver.
For
(anonymous) wrote:
Please see the documentation on Toolserver wiki [1] to set this up. It uses a
command of -m with another variable depending on when you want mail sent.
[1]
https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Batch_job_scheduling#arguments_to_qsub/qcronsub
[...]
That just sends
(anonymous) wrote:
Please see the documentation on Toolserver wiki [1] to set this up. It uses
a command of -m with another variable depending on when you want mail sent.
[1]
https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Batch_job_scheduling#arguments_to_qsub/qcronsub
[...]
That just sends
(anonymous) wrote:
Thanks. I don't want to fiddle to much with SGE's in-
testines, so I will probably either use | mail timl in my
script or have my MUA insert the log in the status mail.
I looked if I could submit this totally fascinating and
innovative idea of mailing the output as a
(anonymous) wrote:
[...]
I think I'd add general direction of centralizing everything under a single
Wikimedia Foundation is a bad idea as a permanent blocker. Maybe there's a
reasonable case for why deprecating the Toolserver and creating Wikimedia
Labs is a great idea, but I don't see it
Merlissimo m...@toolserver.org wrote:
[...]
Does anybody know if vixie cron (=cronie on ts) supports
sth. similar? That would solve the problem.
[...]
Not as far as I know (or see in the code).
Tim
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Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not only a question of space, but also of availability.
I don't know about Debian or Solaris, but on Fedora some
packages are sent to a farm up north when they don't compile
in the current release and noone volunteers to fix it. I
wouldn't want
Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
I think it really makes sense to define the names of a set of available
functions. That would really make much simpler the development of
portable tools, or working on different languages, without having to
relearn the framework used.
That said,
MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
[...]
I'm a bit concerned about the diversity of the tools made by each of us.
Almost every user utilises its own library of files for providing a
skin, db access... Which make integrating them into something coherent
quite hard.
These multiple frameworks
Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
I'm a bit concerned about the diversity of the tools made by each of us.
Almost every user utilises its own library of files for providing a
skin, db access... Which make integrating them into something coherent
quite hard.
These multiple
DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote:
[...]
I believe we had
several issues already in the past when the installed soft-
ware differed between the Solaris servers. Which brings me
to: Does anyone know an established format a) in which pro-
jects could write down their requirements and b) that
Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
Which brings me
to: Does anyone know an established format a) in which pro-
jects could write down their requirements and b) that covers
both Debian and Solaris? So when admins need to (re-)in-
stall a server, they wouldn't have to guess which
DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote:
[...]
If you are a Debian-user too, you can help me a little bit: Insert needed
packages at [1] and help other users to find packages for their needed
liberies.
[...]
Does this mean that all the accumulated JIRA requests for
Perl modules Co. will get
Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote:
Personally, I rather we wait for the Pywikipedia devs to fix that script,
This is not going to happen anytime soon. Considering the state of the
code base (two hundred exceptions for three hunderd wikis, long
functions and no automated testing -
DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote:
Is there any roadmap to move off ZWS?
we plan to do this at the next maintaince-window, which is planed for 7. Dec
at the moment.
a) Thanks!
b) After further reading, environment variables seem to be
cleared by Apache's suEXEC which the toolserver will
(anonymous) wrote:
I haven't tested it, but the possibility to SetEnv
PERL5LIB in an .htaccess file should be an elegant solu-
tion to this, and according to the Zeus documentation, there
seems to be no such thing in ZWS.
#!/usr/bin/perl
BEGIN {
if ( $ENV{SERVER_SOFTWARE} =~ /Apache/
Mashiah Davidson mashiah.david...@gmail.com wrote:
Once again, a question on query killer. Below its report informs that
with near-zero replag a very simple count(*) only query on s6 takes
too long, and the killer expects SLOW_OK would help.
I think something is wrong fundamentally once such
River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
Given WMDE's recent fundraising changes which now allow sup-
porting WMF directly, are there any plans to blur the clear
distinction between WMF's farm and the Toolserver database
servers with the accompanying headaches in the near future?
Not that I
River Tarnell river.tarn...@wikimedia.de wrote:
This was not announced in advance since we only learnt about the changes
about 10 minutes ago. Sorry.
Is this something we can do about in the future?
I've asked WMF (i.e., Tim) to let us know about schema changes in
advance next time, so
River Tarnell river.tarn...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Can you notice http://status.toolserver.org/ password to toolserver users?
I will give out the password for status.toolserver.org to trusted
Toolserver users on request. Trusted means that I know who you are,
and we've had some kind of
I wrote:
perhaps this would be a good moment to transfer Geohack to a regular
mediawiki-extension on the main servers.
I hear this was also the plan of brion vibber before he go.
Who we need to ask now for this?
I asked Brion on the Paris meeting and he said he'd have a look. But,
I
Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
I don't have any suggestions as to your actual problem, though. I
don't see a script to populate rev_len in maintenance/, so I guess
someone would have to write one.
If someone does, please update bug #18881. There is Bryan's
patch in
Ryan Kaldari kald...@gmail.com wrote:
I tried shell_exec() and exec() instead of system() and it gives the same
resullt - a zero byte file with no error. Any idea why it would work from
the command line but not from PHP?
Are you sure there is no error? STDERR is usually discarded
by
Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
perhaps this would be a good moment to transfer Geohack to a regular
mediawiki-extension on the main servers.
I hear this was also the plan of brion vibber before he go.
Who we need to ask now for this?
I asked Brion on the Paris meeting and
Fuz Kabir fuzka...@yahoo.com wrote:
I have been using wikipedia toolserver for a week.
I'm collect data for research from
http://toolserver.org/~kolossos/templatetiger/template-choice.php?lang=enwiki
but when I want to download a template for my database it limits 2500 records
at a time
River Tarnell ri...@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote:
there was an unscheduled outage at ~17:20 UTC for around 15 minutes, caused
by
a kernel panic on the NFS server (hyacinth). the cause is currently unknown.
Sun has identified the cause of the panic as a faulty DIMM. we will replace
River Tarnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
when I go to
URI:https://journal.toolserver.org/toolserver/entry/on_tools_and_memory_use,
fill out the form, answer the simple math question and ei-
ther press Preview or Post, I get again to
Hi,
when I go to
URI:https://journal.toolserver.org/toolserver/entry/on_tools_and_memory_use,
fill out the form, answer the simple math question and ei-
ther press Preview or Post, I get again to
URI:https://journal.toolserver.org/toolserver/entry/on_tools_and_memory_use
with no changes
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