Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2011-01-08 Thread Gazjam
Soundchecks Mods V2.0 now up, albeit in Beta stage. Well worth it, even the Display Off mod, which I thought I would never do. Sound quality improvement is worth it...IF you use your Touch solely as a digital transport and have either a Controller, Ipeng or an Android controller for

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2011-01-08 Thread praganj
I just installed the new toolbox from soundcheck. It works great ! Many thanks to Klaus (soundcheck) ! :) -- praganj praganj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41091 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2011-01-05 Thread fullerms
Please dont kill me, but can someone point me to the links for Klaus' SB Touch modifications? I searched on the Sound check website, but cant find any mods or links to mods on it. Its been a long day and maybe I am missing something, but can someone tell me where to look for the mod information?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2011-01-05 Thread Covenant
Have a look here: http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/squeezebox-touch-great-base-for-network.html Hopefully the mods will be available this Sunday coming. -- Covenant Covenant's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2011-01-05 Thread soundcheck
They will. ;) -- soundcheck 'soundcheck's au...@vise - Squeezebox Touch Modification Blog' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/squeezebox-touch-great-base-for-network.html) soundcheck's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2011-01-05 Thread fullerms
Covenant;599968 Wrote: Have a look here: http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/squeezebox-touch-great-base-for-network.html Hopefully the mods will be available this Sunday coming. Thats the website I was looking in, and they are not there. Your statement seems to imply that they are not

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2011-01-05 Thread firedog
at http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/squeezebox-touch-great-base-for-network.html he's says he will put the 2.0 revisions of his mods up on Jan 9. The 1.0 revisions were taken down. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-11-26 Thread magiccarpetride
Jan Madsen;576052 Wrote: However, going to network server and wired LAN really woke up the Touch. Not sure what do you mean by 'going to network server'? As opposed to using Touch's internal server? Now that you're on the network server, if you were to switch back to wi fi from the wired LAN,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-11-26 Thread Jan Madsen
Yes, running Squeezebox Server on a pc in my network instead of using the internal server. A couple of days ago I tried the internal server again, with USB-disk hooked up, and I'm convinced that running external SB Server provides a better SQ. Concerning wifi versus wired LAN, I'm not sure I can

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-11-26 Thread Covenant
Does anyone know whats happening on the Soundcheck site? Klaus said it was undergoing maintenance but would be back on 14th November. I am keen to try his new development which is supposed to improve WLAN quality. -- Covenant

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-11-26 Thread praganj
Jan Madsen;591074 Wrote: Yes, running Squeezebox Server on a pc in my network instead of using the internal server. A couple of days ago I tried the internal server again, with USB-disk hooked up, and I'm convinced that running external SB Server provides a better SQ. Concerning wifi versus

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-11-26 Thread magiccarpetride
praganj;591125 Wrote: Nice power supply. On one photo there was your system. Try to have more space between your components, if possible. From my experience 30-40cm is enough. Than you will have even better sound :) Why is that? Is there a plausible explanation for the 30-40 cm distance

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-11-26 Thread Mnyb
magiccarpetride;591150 Wrote: Why is that? Is there a plausible explanation for the 30-40 cm distance between the components? EM fields diminish with the Square of the distance.. Can be more plausible if the Equipment is ungrounded .All countries does not have mandatory GND in all wall

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-09-12 Thread Jan Madsen
In a setup with Touch's local server and USB disk those scripts probably made some improvements, however it was not easy to tell. However, going to network server and wired LAN really woke up the Touch. I must say that sound quality at this moment is brilliant. You just want to sit there and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-09-05 Thread Jan Madsen
Would wifi disabling and the rcS.local script install give you higher sound quality if your setup is Touch with local server and USB-disk? Doesn't the advantage of wired network apply only if Touch is streaming from external Squeezebox Server? I use the wifi for controlling Touch with

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-09-05 Thread Phil Leigh
Jan Madsen;574384 Wrote: Would wifi disabling and the rcS.local script install give you higher sound quality if your setup is Touch with local server and USB-disk? Doesn't the advantage of wired network apply only if Touch is streaming from external Squeezebox Server? I use the wifi for

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-21 Thread goopie
I installed Soundcheck's software mods and when I power up the Touch it won't connect to my network. So, reading through the posts I found the problem - I connect via wireless and the mod shuts down the wireless module. I have to connect wirelessly. I live in an apartment and don't want to run an

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-21 Thread Phil Leigh
goopie;570806 Wrote: I installed Soundcheck's software mods and when I power up the Touch it won't connect to my network. So, reading through the posts I found the problem - I connect via wireless and the mod shuts down the wireless module. I have to connect wirelessly. I live in an

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-21 Thread goopie
Undoing the mod is just a matter of Factory resetting the Touch or deleting the rcS.local script isn't it? I've done that btw. I left the asound.conf (digital out only) script installed. Is modifying the script to keep wireless just a matter of deleting these two lines - iwconfig wlan0 txpower

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-21 Thread Phil Leigh
goopie;570815 Wrote: Undoing the mod is just a matter of Factory resetting the Touch or deleting the rcS.local script isn't it? I've done that btw. I left the asound.conf (digital out only) script installed. Is modifying the script to keep wireless just a matter of deleting these two

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-21 Thread goopie
I've modified the rcS.local script to keep wireless. Now it's time to have a good listen. Thanks for your help Mr Leigh. -- goopie goopie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16161 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-21 Thread krochat
Phil Leigh;570810 Wrote: You can still apply he asound.conf mod if you are only using an external DAC. I have applied these mods, and several times when I go to use the system it pretends to play (correct clock detected on S/PDIF out, track position bar moving in the display), but there is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-16 Thread firedog
pdawg17;569425 Wrote: What's wrong with using wireless? Does it actually make the audio sound worse (downsampling?) or is it just the fact that more power is being used to support wifi and in turn that makes the audio sound worse? Nothing wrong with using wireless. If that's what works best

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-16 Thread garym
firedog;569520 Wrote: If you want to use wireless b/c of personal preference or placement issues - the mod isn't for you, don't concern yourself with it. Think of it this way. You can buy a porsche and you can buy a Ferrari. I sort of think about the TOUCH as the Porsche and the TRANSPORTER

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-15 Thread firedog
Hi- Did soundchecks mods and everything worked fine. Today I had to reset the Touch b/c of network problems. So I reinstalled his mods, and set the proper file settings for flac as pcm. Now, whenever I try to play a 96k file, I get an error message that it is an unsupported sample rate;

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-15 Thread Phil Leigh
firedog;569232 Wrote: Hi- Did soundchecks mods and everything worked fine. Today I had to reset the Touch b/c of network problems. So I reinstalled his mods, and set the proper file settings for flac as pcm. Now, whenever I try to play a 96k file, I get an error message that it is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-15 Thread firedog
Yes, I don't have any files above 96k on my server -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-150 amp, MF V DAC3, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-08-15 Thread pdawg17
What's wrong with using wireless? Does it actually make the audio sound worse (downsampling?) or is it just the fact that more power is being used to support wifi and in turn that makes the audio sound worse? -- pdawg17

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-25 Thread soundcheck
Phil Leigh;556765 Wrote: T I've installed the tweaks. Will do some listening after the football (soccer) So Phil - what do you think? It's 4days. Are you still shocked? :D I think krzys described the improvements quite well the other day. Meanwhile there are quite some people who

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-25 Thread Kuja
Not everybody agrees... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79914page=6 iPhone;557715 Wrote: I'm doing testing also. I did the software mods and in 90 minutes of listening tests with well known tracks, so far haven't heard/noticed any difference whatsoever with my very

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-25 Thread Kuja
And yes.. Touch has a very good SPDIF out as it is. I already wrote about this experience in some other thead: Kuja;557432 Wrote: Together with some friends, we compared Touch and Audiolab 8000CDM dedicated CD transport. They were feeding an old Wadia Digimaster X-32 DAC. The Touch was

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-25 Thread soundcheck
Kuja;557877 Wrote: Of course I can it try by myself and see. :) You better hurry up. Don't forget to invite your friends. ;) -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-25 Thread Phil Leigh
soundcheck;557855 Wrote: So Phil - what do you think? It's 4days. Are you still shocked? :D No - not shocked. I haven't had any chance to do any critical listening yet. I need to try and do an A/B. I'm working on it. I had a quick listen yesterday and it all sounded good, but I don't

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-25 Thread tonyptony
I did the listed configuration mods including turning off the analog outs. Major difference? No, but there is a small one (at least in my system). Just a bit more clarity in what seems like sounds that are set further back in the soundstage. Maybe that translates into improved calrity throughout?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-24 Thread leadc4ge
JohnSwenson;556585 Wrote: Important things are to run external server, over a wire, and only send PCM (no flac decoding on the Touch). I want to try this. How should I make the SB server send PCM only? -- leadc4ge Main Hi-Fi system. Amp: Totem Acoustics

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-24 Thread Gazjam
In the SettingsAdvancedFiletypes of the Web UI change the FLAC settings to this: FLAC: Disabled MP3: Disabled PCM: FLAC Disabling FLAC in the top entry tells the Touch NOT to decode Flac onboard, but instead on the external server. -- Gazjam

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-24 Thread leadc4ge
Thanks! Is it necessary to restart the server? -- leadc4ge Main Hi-Fi system. Amp: Totem Acoustics Amber Speakers: Totem Acoustics Hawk. Source: Squeezebox Touch Extras: XTZ Sub Amp 1 DSP, Two XTZ 99W12.18P subs. Cabling by Supra. Got a Boom in the bedroom

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-24 Thread Gazjam
Yeah, I'd restart the server just to reset everything. Gaz. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79857

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-24 Thread JohnSwenson
leadc4ge;557587 Wrote: Thanks! Is it necessary to restart the server? No its not necessary to restart the server. You need to make the change and click on the Apply button (don't forget the Apply button!). The next song that plays will use the new settings. It won't change in the middle of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-21 Thread Mnyb
Also if one set FLAC = PCM (disabled) you get another weird effect . If i do this in 7.6 i get mp3 if I synk Touch and an ip3k player and tries a 24/96 track. Maybe i have disable some more settings so that only choice that remains for the server is PCM. Just slightly curious ,when i tried

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-21 Thread Phil Leigh
JohnSwenson;556585 Wrote: ...The suggestion that all you have to do is run ADM to tell you if there is any change is only valid if the AD converter you are using is significantly better than the Touch itself. From my tests I do know the Touch has significantly less than 50ps jitter. You

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-21 Thread krzys
I'm a long time user of Squeezeboxes, first SB2 and now the Touch. I only use the digital output. In my opinion, Touch sounds much better than SB2 even a bit moded (transformer balanced output, filter chokes removed and linear supply). The sound has much more details, much better soundstage and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-21 Thread Phil Leigh
krzys;556750 Wrote: I'm a long time user of Squeezeboxes, first SB2 and now the Touch. I only use the digital output. In my opinion, Touch sounds much better than SB2 even a bit moded (transformer balanced output, filter chokes removed and linear supply). The sound has much more details,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-21 Thread Gazjam
Good stuff Phil, Yours and Johns opinions are among the ones that matter I'd say. I certainly hear a good improvement..music flows better, better sense of musicians playing together rather than seperate sounds clashing. Timbre and tonal quality improved noticably too. Better clarity too, these

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-20 Thread Kuja
Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. Sometimes it depends on how much someone expects/wants it to work. For some people this is what works: http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/whatamess.html http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/index.html To restore a significant temporal (time) symmetry to any person's

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-20 Thread JJZolx
firedog;556474 Wrote: My questions: how/why do these mods work (if they do)? The theory is that reducing CPU activity will reduce EMI and RFI within the unit that can adversely affect the sound. I dunno. Disabling processes that are doing almost nothing and consuming some tiny fraction of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-20 Thread JohnSwenson
I have tried Soundcheck's script and it does work, it does improve the sound. But its only part of a whole environment designed to get the best out of the device. Important things are to run external server, over a wire, and only send PCM (no flac decoding on the Touch). Thats the starting

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experts - comments on these Touch mods

2010-06-20 Thread Phil Leigh
IF you change file settings to stream FLAC as WAV/PCM, note that the standard convert.conf will not support files higher than 96k (ie no downsampling via SOX). -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) -