2string1 wrote:
> I get it, but I still get the feeling that you all think, if it looks
> good it can't sound good...
I have a Squeezebox Touch.
It looks good, and also sounds good.
Squeezebox: Classic/SB3, Duet,(Controller x2) Boom x3, Radio and Touch
x3
Server: Noah Blk Mini-ITX Case,
RussellMrgn wrote:
> I have a Squeezebox Touch.
> It looks good, and also sounds good.
Well...when I said,you all...I didn't mean you. You just came in the
picture...:D
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sckramer wrote:
> and to A/B test!
>
> I systematically test this stuff, best music first no matter what!
Have you also tried double-blind ABX testing?
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid
The official specification for coax S/PDIF is RCA not BNC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF The professional AES interface even
uses an XLR connector!
Since the S/PDIF signal is quite low frequency, the connector won't have
much influence on the signal anyway. I just have to laugh at these
Gazjam wrote:
> Sorry friend, that's your assertion not mine.
> Your conclusions are your own business of course.
Of course. I guess the only difference with your conclusions and mine is
that my conclusions are based on empirical scientific research, while
yours seem to be based on subjective
Pascal Hibon wrote:
> The official specification for coax S/PDIF is RCA not BNC.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF The professional AES interface even
> uses an XLR connector!
> Since the S/PDIF signal is quite low frequency, the connector won't have
> much influence on the signal anyway. I
Pascal Hibon wrote:
> The official specification for coax S/PDIF is RCA not BNC.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF The professional AES interface even
> uses an XLR connector!
> Since the S/PDIF signal is quite low frequency, the connector won't have
> much influence on the signal anyway. I
Shouldn't this discussion move to the "audiophile" section?
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
If you like to diy, here's some of the things I did with the touch
always tried to keep it very clean... could return to stock if chose to:
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sckramer wrote:
> For historical purposes :D ...but If you like to diy, here's some of the
> things I did with the touch
>
> Transformer decoupled BNC, Removed TOSlink (its in series with the coax)
> this made an immediate difference, EDO (can disable the analog DAC, and
> get 24/192), screen
2string1 wrote:
> Perhaps not... We all can't do blind test like you... I read and look
> and try them out.. I'm not saying your wrong, but you seem to be stuck
> on using your eyes and not your ears... rather then reading reviews and
> listening...
Sorry, but you completely misunderstand. The
garym wrote:
> Perhaps you might benefit from educating yourself on blind tests vs
> sighted tests. See:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment
Perhaps not... We all can't do blind test like you... I read and look
and try them out.. I'm not saying your wrong, but you seem to be stuck
2string1 wrote:
> So what are you using for linear power?
For the raspi/digi+/picoreplayer (new main digital) the CiAudio VDC-SB
(used to use this with the touch)
And I use this:
2string1 wrote:
> You have some merit to that statement. You possible could be LOOKING at
> an old vintage rusted up, zip cord sysytem and automatically hate it
> just because it looks like Schiit YOU seem to be stuck on what looks
> right vs sounds right...
Perhaps you might benefit from
I get it, but I still get the feeling that you all think, if it looks
good it can't sound good...
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2string1 wrote:
> I get it, but I still get the feeling that you all think, if it looks
> good it can't sound good...
My transporter looks really cool and it sounds good too.*
*But in a single blind test against my TOUCH with Benchmark DAC I, I
can't reliably recognize which is which. But I
2string1 wrote:
> I get it, but I still get the feeling that you all think, if it looks
> good it can't sound good...
I get the feeling you make strange generalisations... :)
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the
2string1 wrote:
> Well thanks for that...A local dealer has a Transport and I almost
> bought it because it's looks cool but read it wasn't as good as the
> Touch. So I didn't. Sorry you waisted 2000 grand. You should have listen
> and not looked...
You seem to struggle with lots of incorrect
Yup... just like you guys assumed I paid $200 for the Black Cat which I
didn't...
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garym wrote:
> My transporter looks really cool and it sounds good too.*
>
> *But in a single blind test against my TOUCH with Benchmark DAC I, I
> can't reliably recognize which is which. But I still like my
> Transporter because it looks nice and is well built. I just don't claim
> it has
2string1 wrote:
> Don't know how he does it.This is a quote of the web site.
> Black Cat Silverstar 75! is terminated with BNC connectors and comes
> with custom adapters for RCA. These proprietary adapters maintain a true
> 75 Ohm impedance.
Black Cat provides the adapter as a convenience, the
sckramer wrote:
> Black Cat provides the adapter as a convenience, the BNC is the ideal
> 75Ohm connection.
Correct...in reality there is no such thing as a 75 ohm RCA... so why
not have the option, so if down the road you buy components that have
BNC connectors...
Its is in the very few cases where it matters depending on the devices
you use . So one cabt really say .
However spdiff usually measures better under good conditions . The
consumer grade optocouplers are usually not the fanciest one can get
OK thanks...I'm looking at a cable that has combonation BNC/RCA
adapters. Will that take away quality? The cable is the Black Cat
Silverstar 75 Digital Cable.
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2string1 wrote:
> Toslink's optical vs rca digital cable from the touch into my DAC. Which
> is better?
In most (almost all) cases they should produce identical audio. One is
optical one is S/PDIF. Unless a cable is broken or you have some sort
of grounding problem, should produce identical
garym wrote:
> In most (almost all) cases they should produce identical audio. One is
> optical one is S/PDIF. Unless a cable is broken or you have some sort
> of grounding problem, should produce identical output to the DAC.
Optical has the theoretical benefit that it provides 100% galvanic
2string1 wrote:
> OK thanks...I'm looking at a cable that has combonation BNC/RCA
> adapters. Will that take away quality? The cable is the Black Cat
> Silverstar 75 Digital Cable.
Mixing connectors and adapters is usually a bad idea - the connection is
supposed to be impedance matched, but you
Toslink's optical vs rca digital cable from the touch into my DAC. Which
is better?
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toby10 wrote:
> $200 for a copper cable? Oh, wait, it's been Cryogenically Treated (it
> actually says so in the specs). Spend $5 at MonoPrice.com and stick it
> in your freezer! :)
I'm very fond of blue jeans cable for moderately priced, high quality
cables.
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
Julf wrote:
> Mixing connectors and adapters is usually a bad idea - the connection is
> supposed to be impedance matched, but you need to have a pretty bad
> mismatch to actually affect the sound.
Don't know how he does it.This is a quote of the web site.
Black Cat Silverstar 75! is terminated
Have recent direct hopefully helpful experience with this, albeit I own
a Transporter not a Touch.
Had read that BNC was the best digital connection with the Transporter,
so i decided to go with that.
Also read that digital is digital, so go with a decent "non nonsense"
cable - went with
garym wrote:
> I'm very fond of blue jeans cable for moderately priced, high quality
> cables.
> http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
>
> p.s. @2string1, respectfully, you need an "audiophile intervention"
> I've noticed that you have a seeming attraction to not very useful
> audiophile
$200 for a copper cable? Oh, wait, it's been Cryogenically Treated (it
actually says so in the specs). Spend $5 at MonoPrice.com and stick it
in your freezer! :)
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2string1 wrote:
> No problem... I'll go away... So if I'm not mistaken you have a $2000
> music server. WOW... What do you have plugged into it a 5 dollar cable?
> I don't think spending $125 is a big deal on a digital cable...Why don't
> you take a walk. No need to reply if you have nothing
Thank You and yes it is my money, my system and my ears. Thank You very
much...
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Play nice now boys!
But as has been said by others, at the end of the day the final choice
comes down to you, as it's you who is going to buy the item.
Most would say to demo some cables of both types, expensive and cheap in
your own system first before you decide on the one to go for..
RussellMrgn wrote:
> Play nice now boys!
>
> But as has been said by others, at the end of the day the final choice
> comes down to you, as it's you who is going to buy the item.
> Most would say to demo some cables of both types, expensive and cheap in
> your own system first before you
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