garym wrote:
I'm not talking about improving on the TOUCH DAC (which is quite good).
I'm talking about potentially improving on crappy sound cards that
convert everything to 16/48 no matter what and do other odd things.
edit: and of course one doesn't need a $10k DAC to improve on such
stefcon1 wrote:
External DAC's are a waste of money IMO; tried a few and couldn't hear
much difference. I've recently had a massive cull of my HIFI equipment
and now just have my PC feeding music files to my Touch, which then go
to active speakers. Simple set up and sounds fantastic. Just an
garym wrote:
Although I don't entirely disagree with you, I'd say that not ALL
external DACs are a waste of time. They can be critical if one is trying
to feed audio from a PC to stereo or active speakers and one wants to
avoid a crappy soundcard in the PC. What it takes for an external DAC
and thats why i triyng to convinve OP that actually using the digital
input on the Denon is the best he can do with that amp .
Modern AV are basically made for digital sources .
And with the risk of being called a hifi herretic AD convert and then do
volume in software and then DA has the
stefcon1 wrote:
Fair point but to my ears, external DAC's don't improve any on the
internal DAC of the Touch. There may be some out there that do improve
the sound quality but i haven't heard one. I've spent many fruitless and
expensive years upgrading and came to the conclusion that most of
Mnyb wrote:
and thats why i triyng to convinve OP that actually using the digital
input on the Denon is the best he can do with that amp .
agree! Optical out from TOUCH to Denon amp digital input is very likely
the best possible way to use the Denon amp with a Touch. (and also
agree that
my touch is connected to denon by optican cable, how should i do to use
touch dac instead denon dac keeping touch connected to denon?
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nervoteso wrote:
my touch is connected to denon by optican cable, how should i do to use
touch dac instead denon dac keeping touch connected to denon?
does the Denon have analog (RCA) inputs (right/left). And if so, does
the Denon allow passthrough of the analog signal without reconverting it
I have a Peachtree DAC iT and cannot hear a difference with the Touch's
DAC
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Until recently I was using a mk 1 Cambridge Audio DACMagic. Can't
comment on the DACMagic Plus, but the standard one is definitely lower
end as far as DACs go - but still streets ahead of the Touch's built-in
DAC. You will not fail to hear an improvement. I'm always amazed when I
see comments
nervoteso wrote:
I don't know, touch is connected from its optical outp to optical denon
inputs
Then you're already NOT using the Touch's DAC. You are instead using the
Denon's DAC. And if you add a DAC in between the TOUCH and the Denon,
it will still be using the Denon DAC unless the Denon
garym wrote:
Then you're already NOT using the Touch's DAC. You are instead using the
Denon's DAC. And if you add a DAC in between the TOUCH and the Denon,
it will still be using the Denon DAC unless the Denon has a pure analog
pass-thru capability (and as pointed out, many AV receivers do
Mnyb wrote:
I'm in doubt that there is any actual analog pass through on that amp ?
The vast majority of AV amps just run the analog inputs trough an AD
converter and it's then aviable just like any other source and then
outputs thought the built in DA converters .
It makes sense ona lot
nervoteso wrote:
i've a denon amp 1804 and 2 celestion speakers f10
But if it's a the AVR1804 just connect the Touch to one of its digital
inputs ?
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Mnyb wrote:
But if it's a the AVR1804 just connect the Touch to one of its digital
inputs ?
yes it is already connected to denon, but i thought dac would improve it
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nervoteso wrote:
yes it is already connected to denon, but i thought dac would improve it
I'm in doubt that there is any actual analog pass through on that amp ?
The vast majority of AV amps just run the analog inputs trough an AD
converter and it's then aviable just like any other source and
pinkdot wrote:
I personaly think the touch dac is pretty good. If the Cambridge will
improve your sound depends also on the rest of your system. So I would
recommend you to listen to the setup before buying. Nobody can garanty
you a noticable sound improvement.
Conect your Touch with an
Do try at home I first it does seem to have nice feature set multiple
inputs and can be used as preamp . And balconied outputs if needed . But
if your only motivation is sound quality do try at home .
Important try to match volume levels when listening , this not the same
as having the same
Ok,it also have a headphone amp and a reasonable price tag .
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sub.
Bedroom/Office:
Hi i would like to improve quality from touch, i' m going to buy a
cambridge magic plus dac , how about? Is it a good dac? Also how should
i setup touch to plug this dac? Thanks
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I personaly think the touch dac is pretty good. If the Cambridge will
improve your sound depends also on the rest of your system. So I would
recommend you to listen to the setup before buying. Nobody can garanty
you a noticable sound improvement.
Conect your Touch with an optical cable to the
Just got a dac 100 few weeks back but did not see significant diff. Pls
try first as suggested above.
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Thanks again John!
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I've managed to get the Touch to play through a USB DAC but it seems to
have killed the internal sound effects. I've made sure the volume is up
and the appropriate options are selected, and tried several reboots. Is
this to be expected, and can I bring them back if so? If not, does
anyone know
The problem usually has to do with ALSA card numbers. The music goes
to the default ALSA device. The schemes for USB change what actual
device is called default so the musiv goes to the USB DAC. The
effects channel is hardcoded to go to device 2. When a USB DAC is
plugged in it usually manages to
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