Re: [Trisquel-users] Edit these 3 privacy-invading Mozilla about:config settings.

2013-09-12 Thread dadix
about:config Name: network.http.sendRefererHeader Default value in my Abrowser is 2 not 1. Than you for informations. It is very useful.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-09-12 Thread mikko . viinamaki
>Please install the "iucode-tool" package (from contrib) and the "intel-microcode" package (from non-free). [...] >Intel doesn't publish to the general public much data about microcode updates, therefore we only have very spotty information Wow, I wouldn't touch that with a 20 foot barge pole

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread fernando . negro
+1 (I really don't come here for this... And have better things to do, than to talk about this kind of subjects... Being a pessimist about it all, I always have to find the patience - even when exposing it, in a more serious manner, on my own publication - to talk about it... So, to make it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread mikko . viinamaki
>PayPal put a hold on the funds. Paypay is a criminal organization, they do this all the time to countless people, just because they can. Here's but the tip of the iceberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paypal#Criticism

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread fernando . negro
+1 (I really don't come here for this... And have better things to do, than to talk about this kind of subjects... Being a pessimist about it all, I always have to find the patience - even when exposing it, in a more serious manner, on my own publication - to talk about it... So, to make it

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Also this prompt http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/2nm9h.jpg (installer prompting for non-free firmware)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread Andresmp
ok... back on subject? Lembas http://www.mailpile.is/blog/2013-09-05_PayPal_Freezes_Campaign_Funds.html it seems paypal unfroze their funds and they are back in the game.

Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA Decryption capabilities

2013-09-12 Thread oralfloss
How is receiver computer B going to get the "shared key"?

[Trisquel-users] Watching Vevo videos without Gnash

2013-09-12 Thread ejectmail
Does anybody know how to watch Vevo videos or other videos that are "restricted from playback on certain sites" without Gnash? I have a potpourri of Firefox addons that allow me to watch any video but these in HTML5 (note: downloading videos from YouTube is prohibited by its terms of service)

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread jason
In fact, Ubuntu already *has* separate repositories for non-free stuff, so they're already on their way. They'd need to move perhaps a few more packages into there and follow it up with a statement denouncing that repository as not being "part" of Ubuntu... which, if you accept Debian being f

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread jason
"You cannot compare Debian with Ubuntu." Oh indeed I can. Please re-read what I said about that. Ubuntu doesn't currently claim to be 100% free, nor did I say that they did. But if you accept Debian's argument then all that Ubuntu needs to do is flip some switches around and then be in a po

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread jason
It comes from the Debian installer. Check it out. Select Expert mode while installing it to reveal it (and even more) such dialog boxes.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-09-12 Thread jason
A security vulnerability in a piece of proprietary software. What else is new? Trisquel doesn't include it since it's proprietary. So, here's Debian pushing proprietary software yet again.

Re: [Trisquel-users] dist-upgrade error

2013-09-12 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Are you sure root (/) is not full? This command should tell you (assuming you have the default filesystems) df -h -t ext4 -t xfs

[Trisquel-users] dist-upgrade error

2013-09-12 Thread christian
Hey guys, I'm trying to update sage, which is free mathematics software I have from a ppa. I'm getting the following error from dist-upgrade, which I haven't seen before: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sagemath-upstream-binary_5.11ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack): failed in

[Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-09-12 Thread Michael Mehrazar
I've noticed on the Debian-security mailing list information about an update for Intel processors microcode that fixes several vulnerabilities. More info can be found below.[1] Are there any steps that Trisquel users should take to protect themselves? Is a security update on its way? [1]http://li

Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA Decryption capabilities

2013-09-12 Thread stask
More today. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57602701-38/nsa-disguised-itself-as-google-to-spy-say-reports/ http://falkvinge.net/2013/09/12/the-nsa-and-u-s-congress-has-destroyed-ssl-we-must-rebuild-web-security-from-the-ground-up/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source hardware? Free hardware foundation?

2013-09-12 Thread stask
There already are a couple of organizations like that. https://trisquel.info/en/forum/dash-desktop-and-mobile-architecture-system-hardware I don't think any free software friendly hardware has been produced as a result as yet. Some vendors were at one of their shows. Think there were 500 at

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread stask
Conspiracy conjecturer or conspiracy speculator are also labels. Fernando has given over 20 links in his posts. I wouldn't call that no evidence for his rationale. It might not be good evidence. It might not be worthy of certain peoples time or opinion. He backed up his thoughts without end

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread fernando . negro
Yes. I understand. If by "distribution" a person means "the whole set of software that a project distributes" - and, if one ignores the "psychological line" drawn by the Debian project - then, yes - the final result, of a set made of "free" and "non-free" repositories, is a "non-free" distrib

Re: [Trisquel-users] Edit these 3 privacy-invading Mozilla about:config settings.

2013-09-12 Thread stask
Yes. There is no need to use a single browser for everything.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread stask
I think the distinction goes something like this: There is right, and there is wrong. Right is right, wrong is wrong. It's pretty hard to allow things that aren't right and still say, "I'm mostly right, I did the best I could, so I am still calling myself right. Only right is right. Only 2+2

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread krofnica996
That prompt does not exist in Debian; where did you get that from? In fact, today I installed Debian jessie and I did not see it.

[Trisquel-users] Re : How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread magicbanana
Nonfree software cannot be trustworthy. Without an access to the source code, you cannot know what it actually does. And many popular proprietary software are known malware. Adobe Flash and Microsoft Skype for instance.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Edit these 3 privacy-invading Mozilla about:config settings.

2013-09-12 Thread gnuser
I am happy to see that there are people who value privacy =) However, be careful messing around with the about:config, you might eventually do more damage than good ;) I usually suggest TorBrowser for when you want to be private. And add to that common sense, since a global adversary will hard

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread fernando . negro
I don't agree with that. Ubuntu and the likes... Yes. They, obviously, don't care about the Freedom issue - and even facilitate the installation of (more) non-free software. In Debian's case, I think they're just being pragmatical. (https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-many-people-are-working

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread krofnica996
Regardless of that, some people *need* nonfree software. Debian with nonfree software is better than full nonfree operating system: one step towards right direction. One can even track progress with vrms - haha.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread fernando . negro
I know that... And, that's why I wrote "(as far as that can be said for proprietary software, that is)". (I also don't trust proprietary software, am aware of how much it compromises a system, and know of the amount of it that has malware included.) A "trustworthy" repository, for such type

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread jason
I understand what you're saying, but such a distro that is distributing proprietary software could not do so and at the same time wash their hands of it and claim no responsibility. I wish they would just come clean, admit that they're a non-free distro, and stop the double-talk. I complain a

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread jason
"without prompting user" Oh, so this prompt doesn't happen then: http://img.ctrlv.in/img/5206682f685da.png I see. "Debian is not optionally free" You're right - It's not free at all. It's only free if you believe the double-talk I mentioned.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is RdRand in Linux-Libre?

2013-09-12 Thread gnuser
Hey! Not fair! I spend a week out of here and you guys already go on conspiracy theories without me? =P LOL Ok, seriously now, this is the kind of thing that makes me think "free software only, free software only!". Lol. Even so, and as this is an example of, free software does not mean tha

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread shiretoko
+1

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source hardware? Free hardware foundation?

2013-09-12 Thread shiretoko
Nevertheless, we shouldn't stretch the term this way. For instance, if you apply freedom 3 to the hardware and change the blueprint, the hardware is still the same. In fact we're talking about "free hardware documentation" but we call it "free hardware". If you change the source code of a prog

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread fernando . negro
Your arguments do make me doubt the "free" label of Debian... (And, I agree that, for the reasons you stated, it cannot be described as "fully free".) Although, I can also understand that, even it the purpose of such a distro is to not use non-free software, it may be a good idea, for practic

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread krofnica996
Debian is not optionally free; the freedom comes by default without prompting user.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread krofnica996
You cannot compare Debian with Ubuntu. Out-of-box debian, unlike Ubuntu, does not contain any non-free parts. If the user types "non-free" to /etc/sources.list, I bet he knows what is he doing. Only difference to Trisquel (in that respect) is that Debian offers convenient way to install non

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread krofnica996
Debian GNU/Linux is labeled as free software operating system. However, I do not care how they label it. Do you not use linux because it is labeled as open-source instead of free? As long as open-source software is also free, I will not reject it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source hardware? Free hardware foundation?

2013-09-12 Thread fernando . negro
Right. We can look at the hardware blueprints as the source code. And its implementation/concretization as the compiled form of such source code. It would be a great idea to possibly create a "Free Hardware Foundation", as well. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread davidvargas1
I love all this symbolism stories, dissident writings and conspiracy theories, for me, are just forms of control, TO keep you from living, basically, with one panic button attach under your index finger. It does not matter which side you are in, or what government you will support, someone,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is RdRand in Linux-Libre?

2013-09-12 Thread mikko . viinamaki
>Maybe there should be (if there isn't already) a piece of code that disables RdRand when no other source of entropy is available, to ensure that it's never used as the sole source of entropy. There already is. It's the nordrand parameter to the kernel. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentatio

Re: [Trisquel-users] Many unmet dependencies on a new installation

2013-09-12 Thread brian . crummy
Well, I couldn't remove ia32-libs. sudo apt-get purge ia32-libs does nothing. I really don't want a 32-bit operating system when I have 8 GiB of RAM installed. So I'm going to reinstall. I'll install and configure NFS (though not set up the users right away because that's more time), and th

Re: [Trisquel-users] Edit these 3 privacy-invading Mozilla about:config settings.

2013-09-12 Thread dhunt
Thanks for the config settings, explanations, and link to more. The about:config interface is a bit intimidating.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread stask
There is a spiritual satanic portion to this too. Those drives are not easily understood by normal right thinking people. You give far too much credit to those in the conspiracy, as if they will think like you or I do, and therefore behave in ways we are familiar with. They will not. Criminal

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread onpon4
> "Conspiracy theorist" is a label. It's been built to be used to shut down open > debate. It may work temporarily from time to time, but it will not change the > underlying facts--true or false--that are not being addressed. To be perfectly frank, "conspiracy theorist" is a term of endearm

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is RdRand in Linux-Libre?

2013-09-12 Thread lloyd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 This is the important point here. If it's the sole source of entropy, that's when it becomes a security risk. As long as it's being mixed with something else, it's pretty safe imo. Maybe there should be (if there isn't already) a piece of code

[Trisquel-users] Re : Sticking To It

2013-09-12 Thread magicbanana
There are indeed a few (and rather uncommon) licenses that the FSF consider free but the OSI does not consider open source and vice versa. I do not think it is worth searching for practical difference between the two terms. They are essentially the same (Bruce Perens, who wrote the open sourc

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source hardware? Free hardware foundation?

2013-09-12 Thread mikko . viinamaki
The schematics for hardware however can be copied, if made public and released under a proper license. Those and other design documents are kind of the "source code for hardware". There nothing about "documented hardware" or "free-software-friendly hardware" that says please go ahead and ta

[Trisquel-users] Re : How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread magicbanana
I believe aklis can be considered #2.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread lloyd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Generally, I agree that by distributing a non-free repository, Debian is non-free. However, it's the closest out of all the other non-free distros to being free. It has a deblobbed kernel, and no non-free software can be installed without mo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Sticking To It

2013-09-12 Thread onpon4
Not all free software is open source. As an example, the original BSD license is discouraged by the FSF, but it is approved as a free software license. That same license is not approved as an open source license by the OSI. It is true that most open source and free software licenses overlap,

[Trisquel-users] Re : 2 problems with video playback

2013-09-12 Thread magicbanana
I would first try to get newer DEB packages from newer versions of Ubuntu. Here is the website where to search Ubuntu's repositories. Good luck: you will probably enter "dependency hell"...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another annoying problem with flash

2013-09-12 Thread onpon4
I don't fully understand what's going on with this website; you can download the songs, but you aren't able to preview them? It wouldn't be that hard for them to support playing the previews with HTML5. One thing you should always check in a situation like this: disable Gnash (and Lightspar

[Trisquel-users] Re : Have we to protect ourselves against keyloggers ?

2013-09-12 Thread magicbanana
Because the X protocol is not secure, none of the current distribution actually is technically immune to nasty graphical applications keylogging. Wayland (and Mir on Ubuntu's side) should solve that problem. Like other users said, one had better stick with software in Trisquel's repository.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Edit these 3 privacy-invading Mozilla about:config settings.

2013-09-12 Thread stask
Thanks. Only had #3 in mine. Have updated. There are so many settings in there it is just hard to know where to begin or where to end.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source hardware? Free hardware foundation?

2013-09-12 Thread stask
Hey, that's good. I like that. "Documented hardware that is free software friendly." That is what I am searching for too. Sounds more clear than free hardware. A plain or basic CPU and parts with complete/honest documentation so that whatever free software is built or used on it, results in

[Trisquel-users] Re : Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread magicbanana
You cannot fool us Chris! If we take the logo of your company, emphasize the white-filled circle of the penguin's head and connect its eyes and beak, we obtain a triangle in a circle! The Eye of Providence! One of the most well known Manonic symbol! Just to be clear: I am being ironic, maki

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is RdRand in Linux-Libre?

2013-09-12 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I believe it is but not as the sole source but added to the mix. This way apparently it doesn't matter if isn't perfectly random.

[Trisquel-users] Edit these 3 privacy-invading Mozilla about:config settings.

2013-09-12 Thread trisquel
These about:config edits need to be set as default. Type "about:config" (without the quotes) in your browser bar, click enter, ignore the warning, and continue: -- (1) Get rid of DOM Storage: (used for tracking all behavior online) DOM storage has become a larger threat to pri

[Trisquel-users] Re : Fundraising campaign: Privacy Friendly Mail (TLS/OpenGPG/etc) Software

2013-09-12 Thread magicbanana
The FreedomBox project has recently delivered a 0.1 version. It does not look "dead" to me!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source hardware? Free hardware foundation?

2013-09-12 Thread trisquel
The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) works for all communication freedom. It was formed in 1990 and here are a few people you should become friends with. https://www.eff.org/about/board

Re: [Trisquel-users] Sticking To It

2013-09-12 Thread adfenohuvlov
Well, to tell you the truth, things are really mixed around here. The process of convincing people to use free software involves, as far as I know, knowledge about the person you're trying to convince. Generally speaking, I always tell others the difference between the terms "gratis", "open

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source hardware? Free hardware foundation?

2013-09-12 Thread shiretoko
I'm not a friend of the term "free hardware" or "opensource hardware"; both are misleading. Hardware can't be copied, for instance, so this software-freedom can't be applied to hardware. Also there is no source code for the hardware you could be allowed to study and change; when we're talking

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is RdRand in Linux-Libre?

2013-09-12 Thread foxhoundmsx
Also take a look at this

Re: [Trisquel-users] GRUB not accepting password

2013-09-12 Thread Sachin Dey
On 09/12/2013 02:43 PM, foo...@hotmail.com wrote: I thought updating grub in a live session was more complicated than just running update-grub? Anyway, I didn't. An obvious oversight, in retrospect. Thanks everyone for the quick reactions! I guess then you'll then have to comment the following l

Re: [Trisquel-users] GRUB not accepting password

2013-09-12 Thread foocha
I thought updating grub in a live session was more complicated than just running update-grub? Anyway, I didn't. An obvious oversight, in retrospect. Thanks everyone for the quick reactions!

[Trisquel-users] Is RdRand in Linux-Libre?

2013-09-12 Thread foxhoundmsx
There's a discussion going around the internet about Intel possibly backdooring Linux with RdRand. "Two years ago Linus overrode a decision by the maintainer of /dev/random and made a decision to include a patch by Intel which would make Linux rely blindly on output from RdRand (an implemen

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread chris
It's hard for me to take a strong stance against distributions which include some non-free software when the majority are having a difficult time getting off of completely non-free platforms. Debian definitely needs to work toward the FSF's guidelines. However my feeling is we need to work mo

[Trisquel-users] Another annoying problem with flash

2013-09-12 Thread tino . paolino
Hi, until now, I used my gnu/linux free distro without java and flash. Now I have to collaborate with an heavy-metal music webzine, wich gives me promo and album from labels, and obviously, links from labels are full of java and flash. I have also problems with Reverbnation, another way to sha

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread alonivtsan
The main problem with Debian is that it recommends non-free software, for instance the free software version of Firefox included in Debian (Iceweasel) recommends the installation of Adobe Flash and the version of Kopete included in Debian includes a plugin that (presumably) controls Skype (ca

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread Andrew R .
On 12/09/13 13:14, 438963 wrote: > How many people are working on Trisquel? 10? 20? Can you please give > a number? Depends what you count as "working on". Patches? Working on documentation? Writing code? Maintaining the server? Also, things are a little quiet at the moment, although I'm sure the

Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread Andrew R .
On 12/09/13 14:52, pedrosilva wrote: > DEBIAN IS OPEN-SOURCE MOVEMENT. They never really cared about > freedom. If they did they would have been a free distro since day > one. I don't think it's wise to speak for an entire distribution. Debian as a whole focuses on freedom, but not enough, and s

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source hardware? Free hardware foundation?

2013-09-12 Thread steelrange5
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble making a bootable USB drive from Triskel

2013-09-12 Thread wojueding
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Re: [Trisquel-users] How many people are working on Trisquel? Which libre Linux distro has the most developers?

2013-09-12 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Here's the FSF stance http://www.gnu.org/distros/optionally-free-not-enough.html