Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread taiji_tao
I think another outlook could be: If you like Ubuntu but want a Libre version then Trisquel is for you, or if you want newer but not the latest software. If you want the bleeding edge, or close to it then Parabola. But, if you do not trust Ubuntu or Canonical, and prefer stability over

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?

2015-01-19 Thread bert . frohn
Me too, back on nl.archives.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless router suggestions?

2015-01-19 Thread gary02121993
Oh that's cool! I think I've seen a bunch of TP-Links when I was in the so called Computer Plaza in my place (reputed as the best and most diverse of electronics stuff). Thanks man! I'll list this on my top options.

Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000

2015-01-19 Thread onpon4
Huh, that's interesting. I wonder what kind of distro it'll end up being.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
Emacs is not installed by default, but the plus CD is an iso you can get from their sourceforge that has Emacs 23.something and other goodies. Dragora doesn't have an 'official' repository, but there are user ones. I saw that one repo had the new Emacs, but not for my architecture. I just

[Trisquel-users] Thought: delayed release

2015-01-19 Thread onpon4
I'm just going to throw this out there, not expecting any sort of answer, but just because I want to share the thought. It was brought on by a post on Reddit about funding libre software development. My idea is a variation on crowdfunding. It goes like this: when a program is ready for

Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000

2015-01-19 Thread abhijithb21
No freeme. GdNewHat people are working on an independent distribution. They have halted their devolopment of GdNewHat ans suggested BLAG repos as an alternative to their users. See the link to their new distro under development. http://www.pugnix.org/

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2015-01-19 Thread gramex
If you have the original ISO on your hard drive you can just point your torrent client to it. I resumed seeding, anyway (I had to take my computer offline for a few hours.)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thought: delayed release

2015-01-19 Thread onpon4
I'm pretty sure LibertyBSD wasn't going to be released at all until the goal was met. Anyway, I don't think this scheme makes any sense for an operating system. This is an idea for programs that can at some point be considered done, and not need much if any further maintenance.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
Guix is hackable in Guile/Scheme, versatile (reliable less prone to package management problems), etc. I think it was hackability mostly. If your entire system is configurable in the best programming language in the world (Lisp), this will encourage people to work on it more. And RMS is/was

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2015-01-19 Thread riley
Yes! (I would have said this about Trisquel's use of .info, but it seems that trisquel.net was already taken. :D)

[Trisquel-users] Printer suggestions for HP Pavilion 15?

2015-01-19 Thread gary02121993
Suggestions anyone?

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: /etc has a 'firefox' folder with apturl.js

2015-01-19 Thread dudu9020
Oh thanks. Then I misunderstood that. :-) Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2015-01-19 Thread riley
It seems that there are no seeders. I'd be happy to seed, but I can't get the original copy.

Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000

2015-01-19 Thread abhijithb21
I got it from the FSF mirror like Heather.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thought: delayed release

2015-01-19 Thread mail
That was the plan for LibertyBSD, wasn't it? I guess it'd work, but not without some exposure or advertising. Perhaps it'd also work in increments. Say, the program is released, but extra features are under delayed release?

Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
It seems like he is building a cathedral. Why can't he release early? Although it is possible that is is just SO innovative that it needs to be unveiled when it's ready.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thought: delayed release

2015-01-19 Thread gramex
It seems like a good idea to me because of the greater incentive to donate.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless router suggestions?

2015-01-19 Thread gary02121993
What?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless router suggestions?

2015-01-19 Thread gary02121993
I said I won't buy on line.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless router suggestions?

2015-01-19 Thread trinux
a router with dsl support

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thought: delayed release

2015-01-19 Thread Michał Masłowski
LibertyBSD has shown two problems with what you propose: we need to trust the author first that they are able to write and release the program, and this method of funding prevents any cooperation with other people on that software. Not all crowdfunding campaigns use threshold systems (which have

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?

2015-01-19 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I too can confirm this. Filed a bug as well https://trisquel.info/en/issues/13409

Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Fetching BBC Radio Programs with get-iplayer?

2015-01-19 Thread nux
The BBC has changed the way it works and so get_iplayer no longer works as it used to. (The BBC - making stuff with public money and then making it hard to get). The only method that now works (as far as I know) is to get the program to load in the browser and then copy the program ID from

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread mail
Seconded. It's not 'complete' (Hence why it's not on the FSF-approved distro list), but it's still great. Not the most user-friendly distro, so don't hand a CD out to a friend unfamiliar with GNU/Linux. (I'm in the dust, sorry- the package manager and the Guix distribution are fantastic, but

[Trisquel-users] Re : I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread lcerf
Your computer is rather powerful. You would get very reduced functionalities with the AMD graphics (no 3D acceleration, maybe not the full resolution for your screen, etc.). On the other hand, Linux-libre (hence Trisquel) perfectly supports Intel integrated graphics. The other major issue

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread maestro
welcome triplegoat! Follow magicb's instructions and, as jabjabs said, if you encounter any problems just ask here or on irc #trisquel on freenode. You will always find help here. cheers

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread franparpe
Hi, Don't feel intimidated because you can do almost everything you did with proprietary software. I made the switch almost a year ago and I can tell you I don't miss anything, in fact, I can do more with free software. If you are coming from Windblowz (a little play on words by

Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless router suggestions?

2015-01-19 Thread davidvargas1
pogiako12345 Since , you already decided your purchase desire and ogjective, then try to buy a router that it is firmware hackable

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread onpon4
Unless you're a user of Netflix, Hulu, or some other digitally restricted service, I think the only particular thing you'll miss, if it applies to you, is games. There aren't that many; I think the number of libre games that are worth mentioning is in the hundreds. This is a good index of

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread mail
As stated above, your AMD graphics will probably not work perfectly, like 3D acceleration. I'd recommend replacing the AMD graphics with Intel graphics- you can do so for pretty cheap. It's AMD's fault for not supporting Linux-Libre... For wifi, if it doesn't work, you can get a USB wifi

[Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread axeman-c507
Hi all, I am new to this forum, and this is my first post. I have been using Ubuntu and playing with its various flavours for almost a year now. I have been a long term user of proprietary software and services ever since I first touched a keyboard. I don't belive that all companys that

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread jabjabs
I agree, don't bother with Mini - the full suit works fine on anything from the last 5-8 years easily. One of the machines I use it on is a 1.4Ghz Core 2 Duo very easily. If there are any issues you have just ask as, there is always some here to help out. If you need recommendations for

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Hello there and welcome! Probably all the users of Trisquel started their journey with computers as users of proprietary software. There are some sacrifices to be made but I for one find that a price I pay gladly. Trisquel mini is aimed at older hardware. Your brand new machine will easily

Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless router suggestions?

2015-01-19 Thread gary02121993
Sorry for my noobness, but why would I need a router with DSL support?

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread mail
The one in the PPA is 3.12, the one in the repo is 3.10. Most people won't care about the differences, but when I used GNOME the differences were glaring.

[Trisquel-users] Re : I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread lcerf
Can you list those glaring differences, please?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Wireless router suggestions?

2015-01-19 Thread fredo
I use a TP-Link TL-WR740n running open wrt (very easy to flash with a graphical interface) and it works perfectl with my trisquel 7. http://www.tp-link.com/En/products/details/?model=TL-WR740N https://openwrt.org/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?

2015-01-19 Thread gromobir
Ok, I switched to the Spanish mirrors but once again I didn't get any updates for quite a while now. Anyone having the same problem?

Re: [Trisquel-users] /etc has a 'firefox' folder with apturl.js

2015-01-19 Thread marioxcc . MT
According to the GPL there's not license header and therefore not free in the fsf sense. Having a license header in all files is not a necessary condition for a program to be free. It's necessary that the license or lack of Copyright is stated somewhere; and it's good practice to state it

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread tomlukeywood
youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n77cwRJUrLg

[Trisquel-users] Re : I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread lcerf
To get GNOME Shell, you can simply install the gnome-shell package too. I do not think there are many differences between the one in Trisquel's repository and the one in the PPA.

[Trisquel-users] Re : I am giving myself a non-proprietary challenge

2015-01-19 Thread lcerf
Thank you. The GNOME Foundation makes awesome videos. :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
I am excited about this. Of course, 20k will be old-ish, but if more users contribute, BLAG can release new versions very quickly because Fedora is 98% free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
Is it OK to install on a computer, for web browsing? I have BLAG 14k on a laptop and was wondering if BLAG 20k alpha is in a usable state. My *real* laptop runs the *true* GNU operating system, Emacs.

Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
There is a MATE version. I took the Live DVD for a spin, and it's great.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
It's their choice. They can give up their freedom if they want to. But if you care about them, you will try to protect them.

Re: [Trisquel-users] is Debian GNU/Hurd free?

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
The Hurd is to today as Linux is to 2004.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
There is the ultimate free GNU/Linux-libre distro, GNU Guix. Try it, it's great!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
Agreed. I used Parabola for a while, but it was an overkill for my machine, which I use mostly for Emacs and stuff. I now web browse on a Trisquel desktop and use Dragora without a GUI on my laptop.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread franparpe
I made a mistake, I wrote brake instead fo break... Oh my, sorry english I didn't mean to.

[Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
I am posting this from Dragora GNU/Linux-libre. Hello! I was wondering, what do you consider to be the strengths and weaknesses of Trisquel vs gNewSense vs Dragora vs Parabola vs other FSF approved? I am not trying to start a flame or holy war, just some information that could guide

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
I'll start first. Parabola is if you like to have the bleeding edge of everything, and want to configure your environment yourself. Trisquel is no-nonsense for home work. Works out of the box, if you're into that sort of thing. gNewSense is Trisquel, but more stable and tested. Use this if

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from Dragora!

2015-01-19 Thread franparpe
I haven't tested blag neither dragora but I have opinions concerning Trisquel, gnewsense and Parabola: Parabola is ideal for a person who needs the latest packages avaliable, and they are mostly vanilla. Being on the edge have its drawbacks like the fact that the system is more prone to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?

2015-01-19 Thread maestro
I experencied the opposite - had to change from spanish to usa serverver to get the updates (108 mb of updates, mainly kernel and abrowser)

[Trisquel-users] Re : my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-19 Thread calinou
Chromium is not in Trisquel repositories for the following reasons: - recommends non-free extensions, - too linked to Google's proprietary services, - there is licensing uncertainty over certain files.