Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-05-24 Thread onpon4
GNU isn't an entity, it's an operating system, and the FSF is responsible for its development. The GNU Project is that development.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-05-23 Thread mattij . lammi
Hi jsebean, I just tried to search your graphics card from www.h-node.org and it seems that it is not reported. Could you report it? It would be very useful to other people. Your comments would be especially useful in the comment section since you managed to solve your problem.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-05-23 Thread davesamcdxv
t I would feel much happier to donate to the FSF if it actually looked like they were working on an OS distro like Trisquel or even an official GNU distro and keeping up with the new hardware that comes out. GNU Guix? FSF doesn't develop software, I think, GNU does (both are tied to RMS but

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-25 Thread davesamcdxv
I am really disappointed by this. The FSF should build or stand behind in some way and help fund an OS that keeps up with hardware support as the drivers are released to make it easier for people to switch to free software. If they did this I would go out of my way to try to support the FSF

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread alonivtsan
jsbean, my recommendation is never to buy recent hardware as it isn't always well supported by free software when it is released (not all bugs are ironed out yet or it isn't supported in older software or the older software requires configuration in order to use the new hardware). You can

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread jonah
You don't seem to understand though. If I do not install linux-libre's latest kernel then the Xorg server will not launch. Trisquel 6 as it is does not work whatsoever. And even after I update the kernel, I get no 3D acceleration due to configuration issues that I have no idea how to

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread jonah
The bios issue is one that I would like to overcome, but I guess it's not necessarily important as it's not something I change. I don't want an old outdated system that doesn't have any 3D acceleration (I don't know the specs on the Gluglug) but I know there are systems that do, such as

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread alonivtsan
The gluglug X60 also supports 3D acceleration. I personally don't understand the hype surrounding new processors - for me a computer from 5 years ago is good enough as long as the screen has high enough resolution (your Acer laptop I would find unusable because of its low 1366x768

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread onpon4
You don't need to downgrade what you already have (just waiting will give you support from the stable systems), but when it's time to get a new PC, getting something that's been out for a while is going to be a lot less hassle than something very recent.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread jonah
Thanks for that, I wish they would elaborate more on the site as I can't find specs specifically as to what type of CPU and hardware they have. I don't look for fancy, I can't afford it anyway, 1366x768 works fine for me, I just don't want something as slow as something like the Lemote haha,

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread alonivtsan
Well with such a low resolution screen you are limited to other things, e.g. you cannot view 1080P movies without downscaling them, you cannot edit and view high resolution pictures since most of the information will not be kept at that resolution, you cannot write documents or surf the web

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread jonah
1080p is not happening here. I barely get 1Mbps anyway, haha so typically I can hardly watch a video on youtube at 360p, let alone 1080 or even 720. 480 doesn't even work :P. Torrents do not work well on this connection so I don't do that, and I have no intentions of buying BluRay discs. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread shiretoko
You also should be carful about kde offering some media codecs or widgets (don't know about this in detail) which might be proprietary. I've heard that kde is doing this from time to time. But beside of this you should be fine with debian jessie.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread jonah
I never install anything that is from non-free and contrib, if it involves me having to add those repos then I don't do it. That said I'd like to know if anyone knows what kind of proprietary codecs KDE may suggest, I believe it may suggest flash player on it's browser but that can be

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-24 Thread gramex
About whining: I don't think he was talking to you. He was talking to quantumgravity.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread shiretoko
It makes no sense to me to tell people to switch to free software when the majority of PCs out now cannot run it not because the hardware isn't supported in free software, but because the latest releases of free software OSes are behind in adding support for the hardware. Yeah, I feel the

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread onpon4
Keep in mind, the timing of the Ubuntu 14.04 release is pretty crucial in this case. It sounds like you need a very recent kernel, and it sounds like you also need a very recent version of some other software, like X perhaps, that Trisquel 6 doesn't have. Basically, you need a bleeding-edge

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Whining doesn't help. I don't see either of your names on the Trisquel donate list.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread shiretoko
You will never seen them on this list if certain things don't change; as soon as I have a decent income (at the moment I don't) I will at first donate to some much more fundamental projects like gnome or debian; then I will donate to people who are working on free firmware and free drivers as

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread tegskywalker
For those of you who want more info on what Magic and others were saying about the kernel and xorg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread tegskywalker
If looks are important, install the latest Elementary OS (Luna) and then run the Ubuntu to Trisquel conversion script from https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/migrate-ubuntu-trisquel-without-reinstalling Another route is to install Trisquel 6 and then install elementary-desktop from the official

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread jonah
The goal you perceive as important gives light to the route to take. I think that you perceive this as a pep talk. Nevertheless, it is the way to see your problem so that you don't run nowhere fast. When you manifest your interest in installing a distro that uses non-free software it shows that

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread legimet . calc
Good to know that your problem is solved without having to use nonfree software :) Debian does a much better job than Ubuntu at separating free and nonfree software (and that's why it's my distro of choice on arm, which none of the FSF-endorsed distros support)

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread jonah
Not really solved perfectly but it'll do for now I guess until Trisquel 7 is out, haha. I'm hoping the Trusty enablement pack might fix the issue but I don't know. If looks are important, install the latest Elementary OS (Luna) and then run the Ubuntu to Trisquel conversion script from

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-23 Thread davidvargas1
jsebean Reinstall Trisquel as it is. avoid using the linux-libre kernel, this kernel is not that well supported. In my opinion is just a shaby kernel. Use the main one from trisquel cd installation not the bull-crap linux-libre kernel. I had the same problem before with an 1-3 desktop

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread jonahsabean
Intel Chips do work in freedom, including the one I have, unfortunately Trisquel and all the other distros do not seem to keep up with hardware support. Bummer, I'm going to have to install Ubuntu 14.04. Perhaps I can remove some non-free packages after? At least it works and is better than

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread onpon4
Sure, Ubuntu can be used in freedom, it's just not like that by default. Everything in the Main and Universe repositories is supposed to be free/libre, but keep in mind that proprietary firmware and proprietary fonts exist in the Main repository (because of how Canonical defines software and

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread jonahsabean
Quick Side note regarding the kernel version. The ValleyView drivers were included in Linux Kernel 3.11, so ubuntu 14.04's kernel and The Linux-Libre kernel in jxself's repo has the driver. It's just a matter of setting it up I have no idea how.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread alonivtsan
I would feel much happier to donate to the FSF if it actually looked like they were working on an OS distro like Trisquel or even an official GNU distro and keeping up with the new hardware that comes out. By purchasing a laptop with Microsoft Windows you already donated several dollars to

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez Baca
El 22/04/14 09:38, jonahsab...@gmail.com escribió: Intel Chips do work in freedom, including the one I have, unfortunately Trisquel and all the other distros do not seem to keep up with hardware support. Bummer, I'm going to have to install Ubuntu 14.04. Perhaps I can remove some non-free

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread onpon4
I should point out that the FSF expresses no interest in developing its own distro: Quote from https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html.en#gnudist As for developing a distribution of GNU/Linux, we already did this once, when we funded the early development of Debian GNU/Linux. To do it

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread legimet . calc
Try the LTS enablement stack from saucy. Simply run: $ sudo apt-get install --install-recommends {linux-generic,xserver-xorg,libgl1-mesa-glx}-lts-saucy

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread jonahsabean
Wow, lots of relies. Let's start top to bottom haha. :) I would feel much happier to donate to the FSF if it actually looked like they were working on an OS distro like Trisquel or even an official GNU distro and keeping up with the new hardware that comes out. By purchasing a laptop with

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread jonahsabean
Just a curious sidenote getting back to the real issue. The installer of Trisquel actually shows, that is how I can install trisquel (I don't use any text based installer, not sure if there even is one?), however, it boots to console after installing until updating the kernel. It also boots

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread legimet . calc
Saucy has 3.11, but if it doesn't work, jxself said he's working on the LTS enablement stack from Trusty.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread jonahsabean
Thanks for that. I installed the Saucy enablement stack but it utterly broke the system haha. Black screen, I could hear Orca come up but I couldn't even get to a console. So back to square one again, gotta reinstall. The farthest I got was with the linux-libre repo.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-22 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez Baca
The goal you perceive as important gives light to the route to take. I think that you perceive this as a pep talk. Nevertheless, it is the way to see your problem so that you don't run nowhere fast. When you manifest your interest in installing a distro that uses non-free software it shows that

[Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-21 Thread jonah
Hello folks. So I have an Acer Aspire E1-510-2821 PC I bought from walmart. It has Intel graphics and Atheros Wireless, but came with Windows 8 :/. I wanted to liberate it so I figured Trisquel would be a good choice, but much to my suprise, when I booted Trisquel it only booted to console.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3d Acceleration support

2014-04-21 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez Baca
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Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

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Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

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Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

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Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

2012-07-29 Thread arg501
Are you certain the Intel 2000/3000 works with Trisquel? I've got two laptops with Intel HD 3000 and they can't decode 720p when I run Trisquel on them, at least not 'out of the box'. The newer of those two is a Dell 15R, which also has proprietary Intel WiFi, so overall its rendered useless

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

2012-07-29 Thread alonivtsan
To decode 720P via GPU using Intel graphics you need to use (for example) MPlayer with Video Acceleration API (VAAPI) as the output driver. If the version of Mplayer shipped in Trisquel isn't compiled with VAAPI support you will need to compile a version of MPlayer yourself (in Parabola the

[Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

2012-07-27 Thread ben
Does anyone know if such a CPU/GPU provides 3D acceleration for Trisquel: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399 Intel HD in general? I couldn't find the answer on h-node. Thanks!

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

2012-07-27 Thread Igor . Zobin
The GeForce 9500 from libre.thinkpenguin will work with 3D acceleration as well. If you will buy that, you will not be restricted to Intel CPUs. If you are not restricted to those, you can obviously take an AMD one, which will: a) cost you a bit less for the same performance b) allow you to

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

2012-07-27 Thread chris
I believe the nVidia chipsets using the nouvau driver is for the most part free. Trisquel supports it. I've been told that this is not 100% free though and it relies on something that isn't free. I have not talked to Rubén about it although I assume he investigated it and has removed any

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

2012-07-27 Thread chris
Porting coreboot is a non-trivial task. It takes a long time and by the time a board gets support it is not readily available.

Re: [Trisquel-users] 3D acceleration support for Intel HD?

2012-07-27 Thread chris
AMD has cooperated with the coreboot project so the boards with AMD technologies are better supported. The problem is AMD has not cooperated with the free software aspect though and so the 3d acceleration won't work. Intel on the other hand has cooperated with the free software movement in