Sorry, I misread your question. onpon4's answer is the correct one.
On 01/24, Mason Hock wrote:
> > Where is it possible to find the list of Trisquel software that
> > comes by default like i.e. LibreOffice?
>
> Most graphical applications will appear under Add/Remove App
bably in Trisquel.
I'm not even going to bother with 'apt-cache search'. Let's just try to install
it and see if it works.
$ sudo apt install calibre
Awesome. Moving on.
I don't want to have to figure out what driver my printer needs. Maybe there's
a metapackage
> - "Work offline" does not work offline (sends packets on exiting).
> - The documentation is wrong
> - There is no easy way to get privacy (can be considered a feature request)
You are right on all three points. It would be great to fix all three. This is
the strategy I suggest:
(1) Start with
> Is this privacy flop
> inadvertent or is it deliberate?
It's hard to say. The data sent does provide some benefit that I think could be
desirable for many users, but as heyjoe has said users should be aware of it
and have an easy way to disable it. Maybe Mozilla intends for the automatic
conn
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/flidas-release-issues
I basically agreed with this when you wrote it. Since then the situation has
progressed and I'm reevaluating a few points. You may turn out to have been
right on all points anyway, but I'm going to see how things play out before I
make a conclusion.
Your other post about Tor Browser is interest
What version of Trisquel are you using? When I used T7 I found Icecat to be
slow compared to Abrowser, possibilty due to its extra plugins like LibreJS.
The version of Abrowser in Trisquel 8 is based on FF57, so it's much faster now.
Many proprietary packages can be simply removed. Others may be need to be
modified or replaced. For example, any proprietary firmware removed should be
replaced with with free firmware when available so that as many devices as
possible are supported. Another example is SMPLayer, which in Ubuntu
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections
>
> I don't know if you already gave it a try or if you maybe already
> posted it here.
heyjoe already found that this documentation is broken. Bug report is here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14
> Icecat is already ready. No big issues, it would appear.
In my experience Icecat is barely faster than Tor Browser. I don't know that
everyone would accept it as a substitute for Firefox or Abrowser, at least not
until ESR moves to FF60 in May. I'm looking forward to Tor Browser becoming
fast
The package name might be icedove.
Excellent article. Thanks for sharing.
On 01/28, great...@riseup.net wrote:
> I see, masonmate, yeah, as I said in order to preserve my mental
> health I skimmed through the thing, damn thread is yuge. Did you
> test this last one thing I was talking about?
Yes, it's quite the saga. Forunately it seems to be winding down as the
import
There's one positive shred in that article.
"a growing number of coders and designers are quitting their jobs in
disillusionment at what their work entails"
It's nice to hear that some individuals in Silicon Valley have a conscience.
Unfortunately, quitting now might be too little too late.
> Don't tell your family that using facebook is bad.
> It is not bad to share picture with other persons.
>
> Just tell them that when a company like facebook is getting so bigger and
> lets no place for other social medias like diaspora* or gnu social (you can
> add the example of google), this i
In FF58:
datareporting.healthreport.service.enabled does not exist in about:config and
datareporting.healthreport.uploadEnabled is true by default.
After going to Help->Health Report and turning off data sharing,
datareporting.healthreport.uploadEnabled is set to false as expected.
In FF52
S
> You cannot remove anything from Facebook. It is never deleted, even after
> the account is deactivated. It will stay on FB's servers and be used for all
> kinds of things like facial recognition, machine learning etc.
When I finally smartened up and deleted my account Facebook claimed that my
d
> Because it is stupid and futile.
Yes, we should not have to give up our dignity to void being surveilled, and
I'm not convinced it would work anyway.
> Well, that is no way to make sure, now, is it? What's the license is the
> question you should be asking.
>
> https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml
>
> That to me does not seem to be free software. Am I missing something?
This site isn't accessible over Tor without completing one of those dem
Does it happen with all videos? Can you get video with mps-youtube or
youtube-viewer? It could be a DRM thing.
> He explained that he
> deactivated his account
Both deletion (no more account) and deactivation (the account sits waiting for
you to come back) are available, but Facebook goes out of their way to lead
people to deactivate rather than delete. I could not even find the deletion
option in Faceb
> I would like to download the videoes, not only stream
youtube-viewer can download.
Some more things to try:
Do the videos play properly in mpv? While this is a slightly different
situation, I've found that with mps-youtube I get only audio in vlc but it
works fine with mpv.
Does the video d
> If a program is good (works as expected, doesn't spy or damage
> data) and gives you freedom 0 and 1 - do you really need freedom 2
> and 3?
In this case, the source code gives you all four freedoms (assuming you don't
consider trademark restrictions to be an infringment), while the binaries on
> In this case, the source code gives you...
Well, I'm not certain of that since I'm going off Wikipedia. If you (or you
distro) is allowed to build Palemoon without modifying it and call it Palemoon
then it's the same situation as Firefox. If not, that means every binary called
Palemoon was ei
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon
Perfect analogy.
> You are missing the point of the question.
I did not miss *the* point. There were two points: the specific case of
Palemoon and the general case. My first paragraph addressed the former, while
my second paragraph addressed the latter. You then acted as if focusing on
Palemoon in the first par
> Back to browsers: The discussion with the authors of pyllyukko user.js lead
> to the idea to create a matrix comparing the settings of different similar
> projects, including Tor. So they suggested that I create a repository on
> GitHub where this matrix can be maintained and updated easily when
mps-youtube is a cli program that searches YouTube for videos to stream with
your preferred player. It is similar to youtube-viewer. With both programs, I
have found that mpv works better than vlc. youtube-dl and avideo are a little
different in that rather than provide your media player with a
> This needs lots of man hours and lots of attention, especially for
> the cryptographic parts (and I am not an expert in that).
There may be people here who can help who aren't following this thread. It
might be worth starting a new thread with a subject line specific to this
project, summarizi
> the gmail account I don't know how to change on
> the forum software is gone gone gone. :)
I've noticed some recent changes to the forum, including that your email
address is no longer publically visable on your user page and that you can now
change your email address by logging in and editing
> I will never accept anything from anyone who
> tells me "I can potentially help" and then imposes regulations on that
> "help" (however 'ethical' anyone may consider that).
I thought that if a program works as expected and is open and transparent we
don't need additional freedoms. :)
I've noti
I don't know the answer to all of these situations, but if the author has
explicitly released the work into the public domain you should be fine
modifying and redistributing it (although they should really use CC0 to avoid
ambiguity), while if the author has omitted a license you should assume i
> Of course, it should probably be said that this is a U.S.-centric viewpoint
> and not necessarily applicable to non-U.S. people.
Absolutely, I thought I had clarified this but now realize I only specified
that the 1923 thing is U.S.-specific. Everything I said after that point is
also specific
If it's work-related then this is your employer's computing. If they want you
to use proprietary software for their computing they should provide their own
machine for you to use. If they don't do this, the next best thing is to find
another computer to use. One of my jobs is for my university a
> I will be working to improve it further after more meticulous testing. Then
> perhaps it would make sense to reopen the repo on GitHub. (not a promise
> though, so don't hold your breath)
You've already done a lot of work and certainly have no obligation to do more,
but if you get around to it
What you're describing sounds more like what heads is intented for.
https://heads.dyne.org/
I've noticed the same thing lately.
If I log in, start Abrowser, and try to play html5 audio or video I get "To
play audio, you may need to install the required PulseAudio software."
However, if I play something in mpv or vlc and then restart Abrowser, audio in
Abrowser starts working.
> we are not
> really meeting each other, not communing as it were.
Indeed not, and whether you lack self-awareness or just pretend to, it was a
mistake for me to try again. Never mind.
> > heyjoe i have been following this thread for since it started
> and i registered because of you
>
> Yeah...of course.
What? Normal people don't randomly stumble across and become engrossed in a
comically difficult-to-follow thread on a forum they have no connection to and
follow it for an e
> For instance, it wouldn't call home
> if the browser is not accessing a page with JS which makes outbound
> connections. The JS (and its outbound connections) has nothing to
> do with the spyware or its home address.
Yes, that would be the smart way to do it. I'm glad you don't work for Mozilla.
On 02/12, ivan.baldino...@gmail.com wrote:
> Long time ago, I bought a raspberry pi for 35 dollars, and I
> installed on it citadel. At the same time for 50 dollars I bought
> my own domain name for 10 years and in a week I had my personal
> email set up on the pi. The best way to respect your free
I've learned that the voting system is silly and up/down votes shouldn't be
read into too much. The appropriate use of downvotes is to flag posts that are
inappropriate. If you see a post that has been downvoted even though it does
not violate community guidelines, you can do exactly as you did
The meltdown patch.
Meltdown and Spectre are two recently discovered vulnerabilities that affect
many computers.
https://meltdownattack.com
You have a Mac if I recall correctly, so you have an Intel chipset and are
affect by both Meltdown and Spectre. Meltdown has been patched in recent
versions of the Linux kern
> It is free unless you explicitly add the non-OSS repos.
If this page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions
is accurate then the kernel also has binary blobs, which do not respect
freedoms 1 and 3. Whether or not you consider that to be a problem is your
decision. I
Thanks for this excellent summary. Could you give an example of what you would
consider strategical security? I'm a little unclear on what you mean by that.
> Though a better, more deterministic definition should be made, I
> think. Including examples of attack vectors / defenses for each
> level.
I think that this would be valuable. Your framing of the issue is very logical
and practical. I'm generally a fan of approaches like this that can solve on
> >I would again encrypt
> it, but treat it as if it still is in >plain text, and take
> additional precautions accordingly.
>
> How does encrypting something twice transform it from tactical to
> strategic? It sounds like both of these are tactics/methods.
I think by "again" he meant "in this si
> That would be utterly stupid. One's face is not private data, especially in
> the age of social networking with profiles full of pictures.
Exactly.
> BTW M$ has very strange understanding of security. Some time ago I read that
> when you encrypt your disk with Win10 your encryption key is autom
I finally got around to submitting a bug report for this. Do you use Trisquel 7
or 8? I use T8, and I'd like to know whether it affects T7 as well.
What is the date of the ISO? I had that problem with the one from last
December. I saw that a new one was uploaded yesterday but I haven't tried it yet
> If I was a
> conspiracy theorist (I am not), I would suggest heyjoe and you
> infiltrated the Trisquel community to demotivate those who want to
> secure their communications.
I don't think it is fair to say that Abdullah's posts here have had a
demotivating influence. Abdullah has acknowledged
> I used the latest one this February 2018.
Drat. I was hoping the problem would be fixed with the new ISO. I'll try it
this weekend and see if it persists for me as well.
What machine are you using? I had this problem with the December ISO on a
librebooted 64-bit ThinkPad X60. I had no trouble
> But then it is a delicate balance between lulling into false sense
> of security and discouraging into abandoning security. I
> acknowledge that new users might not be able to differentiate the
> subtleties and can get over- or under-optimistic (both being
> equally bad) rather easily.
I think t
> sounds like the standard 'dd' approach doesn't work?
With the December ISO neither dd nor Startup Disk Creator worked for me. With
the previous ISO from last summer, SDC did not work but dd did. When I have a
chance to back up by files I'll try installing with the new ISO.
> If you were referring to me
Quantum is probably referring to the individual who has made exactly two posts
in this forum, the first after joining with the express purpose of cheering on
heyjoe, and the second just now doing the same thing.
> As for heyjoe's messages, I did upvote a few of the
Since I started using mailing lists, I've found them to be far preferable to
forums, especially in Trisquel's case. I use procmail to filter incoming mail,
and each mailing list is sent to its own mailbox. That alone is enough to make
it more convenient than a forum. I can do everything in that
Assuming that you are using Trisquel, try installing the metapackage
printer-drivers-al, either in a terminal with
sudo apt install printer-drivers-all
or by searching for it in Synaptic Package Manager.
Hopefully the required driver is in there and your printer will start working.
If not, let
Sorry, the package name is 'printer-driver-all', with no 's'.
> With 1 GB (even 2GB) of RAM, I would *really strongly* suggest Xfce, LXDE,
> or LXQt desktop environments instead of KDE or GNOME or a GNOME derivative.
I have 2GB of RAM. I have tried GNOME 3 and indeed is a problem. However, I did
not have any issues with GNOME Fallback when I was using Trisq
I have submitted a bug report.
https://trisquel.info/en/issues/23824
> I would say please give JuffEd a try.
I just installed from the Trisquel 8 repo. Creating or opening a file causes a
seg fault, so I wouldn't call myself an expert in JuffED at this point :) but
it does indeed look similar to Kate, which I used before switching to vim.
> Claws-mail is a dual
Welcome, Jos.
> I installed CDE from the cdedesktopenv git on my xubuntu system to
> test it out. I really like it and would like to have a distro that
> has CDE by default. Trisquel seems to have this.
I do not see cde in the Trisquel 8 repo. You may know that Trisquel is
downstream from Ubuntu
As I reported with the December ISO, and as others have reported with 2/17 ISO,
I have trouble running the newest ISO live. After selecting "Try Trisquel
without installing" I see a splash screen, followed by a black screen with a
cursor. From this screen I can use Ctrl+Alt+F* to get a terminal
I tested the latest ISO, downloaded this morning, with dd and SDC, but I'll try
growisofs tonight.
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sudo apt install printer-driver-all
should install all of the printer drivers in the repo. If your printer still
doesn't work then Trisquel doesn't have the necessary driver, possibly because
no free driver exists.
If you do end up buying a new printer, take a look at h-node
https://h-node.org
> And when you got some objections to me, please tell it to ME
> straight, if you don't like back biting.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Perhaps someone reported or downvoted
one of your posts? (I can't see votes from the mailing list.) However, I don't
mind telling you directly that you
> If that means my latest two posts above, I don't think these are
> not entirely off-topic. Do you really think those are off-topic?
Any observations you have about gender are not related to the Free Software
Foundation, or with Trisquel or even software in general. This is why they are
off-top
I dread the thought of trying to raise children for this reason. Proprietary
software intended for children is especially predatory, and it must be hard to
protect them from it when it is how they socialize with their friends.
> She mainly uses games (e.g. tocoboco's and lego) and music (i.e.
>
> The
> irony is striking.
Indeed. Hopefully the developers know more about HCI than dietetics.
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> 70 years + life of the author...
That would already be absurd. Unfortunately it is even more complicated than
that. Works published after 1923 are copyrighted in the US regardless of when
the author died. For example, Kafka died in 1924, almost 100 years ago. With
life + 70, all of his works
> Surely, they (or any reasonable person, for that matter) don't
> think that sugar is beneficial for children
I think that most people know that sugar is not particularly healthy and would
not advise consuming it to excess. However, I think that most of them do not
realize that it is more toxic
It seems that Trisquel does not generally remove or replace anything from
Ubuntu unless it is proprietary or facilitates installing proprietary software.
Since systemd is free software, it will probably be present in Trisquel as long
as it is present in Ubuntu, starting with Trisquel 8.
If that
I still have this problem when running the 2/20 ISO on my X60 from a USB drive.
No DE or DM, whether I use dd or Startup Disk Creator. I just tried it on an
X230, and could not even boot into it. Will there be a new set of ISOs soon
that might fix the first issue, or should I buy myself some DVD
> can't GA still spy on you even
> if javascript is disabled?
I don't think so. GA consists of JS code that the site owner adds to each web
page on which they want to track you. When exectuted it can get information
about you and load additional JS, but without JS enabled in your browser the
in
Using Tor Browser, which has HTTPS Everywhere installed, I do not get
redirected to https://hedgewars.org either.
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> Hmm... then why does tor browser use httpseverywhere? just wondering...
httpsmostofthetime is better than nothing, but if there is a more reliable
alternative then it should probably use that instead.
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I get the "failed to install locale" warning all the time. I haven't bothered
learning how to get rid of it because it has never caused any problems.
It looks like the two packages you were trying to install downloaded
successfully. Try running
$ guix package -I dbus
$ guix package -I libxcompo
If I have a message in my inbox from trisquel-users, that message has since
been moved to freedom-misc, and I respond without changing the cc line from
trisquel-users to freedom-misc, will my response correctly appear in the
freedom-misc forum, or will it start a new thread in trisquel-users? Du
I think the op may be referring to the lanuages for which there are
trisquel-users forums/mailing lists. Right now there are only forums for
languages that are European in origin. There should be forums for some Asian
languages as well, certainly one in Chinese.
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> All that said, I would not advise you to add Trisquel's repository to Uruk.
> It is a recipe for disaster.
As of the last time I tried Uruk, it included the Trisquel 8 repository by
default. The Uruk repository appeared to consist of a handful of packages to
compliment those from Trisquel.
> I recently created a debian package, so I can install guix on many
> machines more quickly.
> https://notabug.org/isengaara/debian-guix-installer
You rock. I look forward to trying this out.
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> I'm afraid I haven't come up with a solution to automate this ideal
> behaviour.
No worries. This is the answer I expected. It's an extremely minor
inconvenience that will fix itself in a few weeks. Thanks for all of your work.
The new forum is a great decision.
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t3g is half right, jxself. Your time and energy is too valuable to waste on
this pointless thread. Thanks for all that you do, and ignore the haters.
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inb4 this becomes another systemd thread.
> May I ask you why you recommend Hyperbola? :) Especially why you recommend
> it over Parabola? :)
Calmstorm prefers a distro without systemd. If you would like to know why
search the forum, as this issue has been discussed plenty.
Parabola offers both
> Windows 7 is just only for warcraft 3 gaming
Have you considered Wine? You may be able to avoid running an entire
proprietary operating system just to play one proprietary game.
See also: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libre-game-recommendations-list
> Mac OS is just... well anyway:
I'd be c
I just thought of something. Hyperbola (like Parabola) has a process for
migrating from other pacman-based distros without reinstalling. They have pages
for migrating from Arch and Parabola
https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:migration:from_parabola
https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id
> Do I download the Debian version?
It's in the Trisquel 8 repo.
$ sudo apt install wine
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I was able to install Wine just now with no problems. Maybe wine was packaged
after the most recent time you updated. Run 'sudo apt update' and try again.
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> I forgot to mention I am using Trisquel 8, maybe that's the reason.
So am I.
> And if you remember me from earlier threads I am now using a 2008
> iMac, if that has anything to do with it.
Run 'arch' in a terminal. If yours is a different architecture from mine
(x86_64) then it is possible th
> 2. It says x86_64
Plan B: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
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Just use the one for Ubuntu:
sudo apt-add-repository https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
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winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/";
> and then what? :)
and then Mason has to keep copying and pasting instructions for you :)
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable
Wine should be installed at that point. The next step is using it to run
Warcraft. H
> :/
My bad. We should have gone with the line for Mint 18.x. When we added the
repo, apt assumed that the version is 'flidas' because we are on Trisquel. It
should be 'xenial' which is the name of the corresponding Ubuntu version.
Don't go back and run the line for Mint 18.x, because although
> When I did the things you say and then did sudo apt update
>
> I got:
From this output it looks like apt is looking for both xenial and flidas
versions of the wine repo. This is progress, as now you have access to the
correct wine repo, but it would be nice to get rid of these warnings. Can y
> Only files with the following extensions are allowed...
>
> Put them in tarballs.
Or for a small file just add .txt to the filename and tell us to remove it
after downloading.
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> ...r wait a second, is that really necessary? Wouldn't all the
> updating solve this?
>
> I don't have to download the latest .iso file, right?
Yeah, don't reinstall just yet. I would indeed expect updating to solve this
(and I'm glad you have the same expectation. :) You're learning). How
> # deb cdrom:[Trisquel 8.0 _flidas_ - Release amd64 (20171223)]/ flidas main
>
> # Trisquel repositories for supported software and updates
> deb http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas main
> deb-src http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas main
> # deb http://es.archive.trisque
Try what Magic suggested here
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/writing-my-%E2%80%98common-distros%E2%80%99-us-2018#comment-129494
and if that doesn't work post a detailed description of what you've tried and
what the problem is for people who weren't following the other thread. If you
share long
> output: https://pastebin.com/zaVNK5ey
Copy/paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list again. It looks like the
nonexistent 'ubuntu flidas' repo is still in there.
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