The question: WHO IS JESUS CHRIST is absolutely
central. Each of you should answer it representing fairly
accuratelywhat your own TRADITION teacheson this. (Oh Lance,
tradition has nothing to do with it so don't you mean what the SCRIPTURES
TEACH ON THIS? Ans to myself: No, I do mean your
Hey Lance, what are you doing up at this
hour?
Bill
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 4:05
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:WHEN YOU ARE
WRONG YOU ARE REALLY WRONG
The question: WHO IS JESUS CHRIST is
CHRISTIAN FAITH LIFE.A great book which
answers the questions "on the table". Stop talkin' and start lookin'. Or, simply
say 'nuff said. Lanceiginal Message -
From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 18, 2004 18:49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] POLYANYI
A
"For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is
in him?" (1 Cor 2:11).
The premise upon which Polanyi stood, was this: we
always know more than we can say. Hmm. I wonder where he'd heard that
before?
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From:
Judy
Gee thanks, Lance. Is that the best you can
proffer? Surely you read what I said, didn't you? Well, what do you think, was
Polanyi all wet, or does he have something to offer? What good is another book,
if peopleare too busy to read a lousy post? Come on, let's talk about
this.
bill
The book wasn't for you. Honestly, almost nothing
advances a conversation in these "posts". I go into them knowing that.
Lance
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From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 06:23
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:RELEVANCE OF
'nuff said. I get the drift.
Bill
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 4:44
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:Wm Wm Wm...
The book wasn't for you. Honestly, almost nothing
advances a conversation in these
Twilight, I mean Tacit Zone.
Lance
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From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 06:50
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Wm Wm
Wm...
'nuff said. I get the drift.
Bill
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From:
It's way to early to think that hard.
bill
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 4:52
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:Nuff said 'caus
you function in the ..
Twilight, I mean Tacit Zone.
Lance
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Lance Muir wrote:
The question: WHO IS JESUS CHRIST is
absolutely central. Each of you should answer it representing fairly
accuratelywhat your own TRADITION teacheson this. (Oh Lance,
tradition has nothing to do with it so don't you mean what the
SCRIPTURES TEACH ON THIS? Ans to
I will say more on this if you wish.
Lance
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From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 08:26
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WHEN YOU ARE
WRONG YOU ARE REALLY WRONG
Lance Muir wrote:
The question: WHO IS JESUS
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"So what new thing can Polanyi come up with that God is
unaware
of?"judyt
I don't think he came up with anything that God is
unaware of, Judy. But I think he
had much to say about the things of God that you
are unaware of.
jt: Not so Bill -Polyani had
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of
man which is in him?" (1 Cor 2:11).
The premise upon which Polanyi stood, was this: we
always know more than
we can say. Hmm. I wonder where he'd heard that
before?
jt: Man is a spirit
"If the Holy Spirit
had anything at all to do with the
thinking and writings of this man there would be no problem because then He would give the understanding."
judyt
The Holy Spirit did give the understanding, Judy.
You just weren't around to receive it.
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jt: The word of God does not
counsel me to spend my time striving to understand
worldly philosophers - isn't this
what the Epicureans were about?
By the way, What's with the rhetorical questions,
are you stoic?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL
William: Save your time and energy.
Lance
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From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 09:16
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] POLYANYI AND THE
HOLY SPIRIT
jt: The word of God does not
counsel me to spend my time striving
Thanks Lance. Good advice. I think I'll take
it.
Bill
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From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:28
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] POLYANYI AND THE
HOLY SPIRIT
So then, are you telling me that Jung is sitting
So then, are you telling me that Jung is sitting on
your throne? I think you are. What's the deal, it's okay when you benefit from
the contributions of others, but its not okay for another to do the same? Sounds
a bit contradictory to me. But of course that's just a philosophical insight on
Oops, I answered the wrong post. Good advice Lance.
I think I'll take it.
Bill
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:30
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:WILLIAM
JUDY SOOO PREDICTABLE
William: Save your
Lance,
Who nominated you to sit on high and hand down judgments, or did
you nominate yourself? You have complained that ppl on this
list
arelazy for not wanting to read long posts or books about
philosophy,
yet you have yet to get into more than a one or two line contribution
yourself. Why
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So then, are you telling me that Jung is sitting on
your throne?
jt: Are you kidding? Jung was
into the occult big time. He had
familiars spirit by the name of
Philemon, Anima and Animus from
whom he received what wisdom he
dispensed to others. There
You've confused me with someone else re: long
posts. However, the latter point is correct. Forget about Polanyi Judy. Stay
where you're more comfortable. Let us non-Spirit-Indwelt folks (your description
of me) meander through this territory. Continue to quote Scripture.
Lance
From:
Hey David Miller,
Is it still alright to discuss science and
philosophy on your forum?
Bill Taylor
Judy, I thought you were going to "clear the air of Polanyi" and "lift up Jesus for
a
change."
Praise the Lord,
Bill Taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:56
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] POLYANYI AND THE
since, for Polanyi, thereappears
to be nosimultaneous coordination of conceptual and physical activity, we
can boldly suggest at least acouple of
possibilities:
1. he's not much of abaseball
player, and,
2. in keeping with 1., unlikea
trip to Jericho with Moses,MPideology of 'Christian
Judy "sucker-punches" you every time you reply.
Bill, just leave her to her manifold quotations. It makes HER happy. My sense is
of someone with a kind of Shirley Temple-like feigned scowl on her face reaching
for a concordance or topical bible as she's about to PONTIFICATE.
Lance
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He's perhaps the only Christian philosopher,
excepting Kierkegaard to have batted over 400. PS Check out the P Society for a
more learned response. Lance
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 10:11
Subject: Re:
The Truth has been THROUGHLY MANIFESTED w/o Polygymy or Polyanyi in SIMPLICITY!
2 Co 11 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we
Thanks, Lance
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 10:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] POLYANYI Spirit
of OBTUSE vs Spirit of Truth
The Truth has been THROUGHLY MANIFESTED w/o Polygymy or Polyanyi in
Wait a second I thought you were so timid when you first enetered this forum.
David Miller admonished us to something like take it easy on you and you might give us something.
You seem to be coming out of your shellpretty well now. Is this the Real William?I thought mocking was out for you. What
If it is so obvious how could you get caught up in so much Polyoney? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, Lance
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From: Kevin Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 10:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] POLYANYI Spirit of OBTUSE vs Spirit of Truth
I won't repay evil for evil Lance but I must say that I
am amazed that
someone as intelligent as Bill submits himself to your
vain imaginations
as well as those of Polanyi.You are
not much of an advertisement for
that philosophy as I don't pick up much peace coming
from you; didn't
you
The question is whether your TRADITION is the RIGHT one.
Is your Tradition of your fathers or of Christ?
Is your TRADITION VAIN?
1 PT 1 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers
Careful Kevin you touch their idol and you will be
relegated with me and my
Shirley Temple curls - along with the scowl,
concordance, and topical Bible :)
You'll have the Epicureans and the LDS on your case
but you can count it joy
to suffer for the sake of the Lord so it's not all doom
Yum. Lance
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 10:35
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Thanks to
Kevin for pointing out the obvious
If it is so obvious how could you get caught up in so much Polyoney?
Lance Muir
My apologies to all of you. I've had some pretty
good teachers the last few weeks. I must be picking something up from
them.
Again, my apologies if I've offended you. I will
try to get back on the high road.
bill taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To:
Right/Wrong one. Sorry, I can't remember which.
Wait a second, it's mine that's right and yours that's wrong..RIGHT? Lance Or,
is it the other way 'round? Lance
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 10:43
Subject: Re:
That pompous soul who comes to your door for the
purpose of giving you their "truth'and, after being rebuffed gives a
testimony on how they've suffered for the sake of the Gospel. Some folks just
don't get it I guess. LancesFrom: Judy Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19,
then i guess you've been enjoying a lot of irrelevantnoise
lately?
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:22:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He's perhaps the only Christian philosopher,
excepting Kierkegaard to have batted over 400. PS Check out the P Society for
a more learned
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That pompous soul who comes to your door for the
purpose of giving you their
"truth'and, after being rebuffed gives a
testimony on how they've suffered for the
sake of the Gospel. Some folks just don't get it I
guess.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We won't blow your cover.Lance
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 11:21
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Layman's
view
then i guess you've been enjoying a lot of irrelevantnoise
lately?
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:22:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
??..all i wanna know is what's the
astoundinG
RELEVANCE OF MICHAEL POLANYI'S THOUGHT FOR you(!)?
Why not listen to Brittney Spears,
Layman?
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:25:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We won't blow your cover.Lance
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A layman would never presume to address an expert.
Seriously, it'd appear that you have a thorough grasp of the Pman so, I won't
venture into "expert territory". However, if you want to hear him I've got
lectures delivered at UCBerkley in 1962. Lance
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From:
TTr's:
It has been brought to my attention that occasionally a subject line
changes when the topic has not changed. I am sure this does not happen
often, but when it does it makes a thread difficult for readers to follow.
I appreciate everyone taking Jim's and my prior advice to change the
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 12:59
Subject: [TruthTalk] Another note on the Subject line
TTr's:
It has been brought to my attention that occasionally a subject line
changes when the topic has not
The UNSTABLE have ONE problem they can not tell TRUTH from ERROR.
James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Like the "Witnesses" of the book of Mormon, these fellas go from one cult to another, never quite finding the TRUTH.
For example Martin Harris:
One of the witnesses to
So you don't have a clue what is rigt what is wrong?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right/Wrong one. Sorry, I can't remember which. Wait a second, it's mine that's right and yours that's wrong..RIGHT? Lance Or, is it the other way 'round? Lance
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From: Kevin
That is OK Bill just NO more lectures; from one mocker to another on the evils of mocking!"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My apologies to all of you. I've had some pretty good teachers the last few weeks. I must be picking something up from them.
Again, my apologies if I've offended you.
Philosophy is a dime a dozen, but what do you have against Scripture?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You've confused me with someone else re: long posts. However, the latter point is correct. Forget about Polanyi Judy. Stay where you're more comfortable. Let us non-Spirit-Indwelt folks
Do you have the spirit of prophecy?
Whats with the hangup on TRADITION?
Were you damaged by the CC Cultists?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will say more on this if you wish. Lance
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From: Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 08:26
YES! So, Kevin in the future please refer all
matters of difference to me for resolution. You needn't consult anyone or
anything other than myself. Your problems have been solved. Lance
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19,
A W Tozer on the possible Menace of the visual in Religious films. This was written over 40 years ago http://www.av1611.org/Passion/menace.html
Billy Graham "Every time I preach or speak about the Cross, the things I saw on the screen will be on my heart and mind."
Patrick J. Buchanan from
I used to hear AWT preach on a regular basis. I
have a couple of hundred hours of messages by the one some referred to as a 20th
Century Prophet. The dear old Toz (pronounced as toes) loved movies. At least I
think so. But, as I reflect again, Keven, maybe you're right. We'll ask him
later
Passion tickets bear 'mark of the beast'
Monday, March 1, 2004 Posted: 9:34 AM EST (1434 GMT)
Jim Caviezel, portraying Jesus Christ, carries a cross on the set of Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ."
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YOUR E-MAIL ALERTS
Offbeat
How many fundies does it take to change a light
bulb? (Make your own joke) Fortunately, fundies have no sense of humor so, no
offence will be taken. What's the deal on that, anyway. When I offer "light"
responses to "dark" and accusatory emails they sail right past them unnoticed
for what
This was a "LIGHT" post!
Did you NOTICE that this transpired in ROME Ga of all places!!!
ROTFL!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many fundies does it take to change a light bulb? (Make your own joke) Fortunately, fundies have no sense of humor so, no offence will be taken.
Mr. Moderator: This irrelevant stuff
(not the best word i'm thinkin' of)thatLL and Bill wanna foist off
on innocent readers is disgusting--pls have them either document and explain
what it has to do with our lives or tell 'em toshut up about
it
IOW, Lance, prove thatPolanyi's philosophy is
The gavel sounds as the meeting is called to order.
The Moderator, under great pressure from the sign-carrying mob calling for the
expulsion of LL(whoever that is) and Bill (alias William) pronounces: Begone to
"outer darkness"where you will find yourselves in the special place
allotted for
*not true* Layman Lance;
read: Try this, Lance:post the (valid) text of an
PolanyiBerkley speech with your view of it,and I'll post a
readable layman's responseyou can read--I think you might be able to
succeedat communicating while Bill travels
aerospace... G
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004
why not?
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:54:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ain't gonna happen..
3/19, ttxpress wrote:
Try this,
Lance:post the (valid) text of an PolanyiBerkley speech with
your view of it,and I'll post a readable layman's responseyou
can read--I
Simply not up to your standard. Try Bill (alias
William)
Lance
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 19:22
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] LaymanLance take
a haitus on Polanyi
why not?
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004
let 'er fly, then;as below,
though,but with Layman's readability, pls G
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:26:11 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simply not up to your standard. Try Bill (alias
William)
Lance
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
hey Layman, if you can't writeeven
onesensible word or twoin laud ofyour favorite philosophy/er,
then why are you his loyal devotee? lo, who doth mesmerize the mind ofthe
mindless man, dull Layman? Surely not thine bosom buddy,
Bill??
G
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:33:23 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:13
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cut Paste
tatic instead of LDS answers
Anyone can cut paste Blaine.
Do you expect everyone to read a 20 page cut
G,
I think you got your message across to them. I agree it is tedious
reading all of these one or two liners. You would think this is a chat room.
You probably remember this, G, that in the past each TT member was
requested to post no more than 8 (I think it was 8) messages a day. This was
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